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justinh524
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i'm a regular scooby doo

3/27/2012 9:11:23 PM

Roflpack
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I'm a chicken nugget.

3/27/2012 9:13:22 PM

mnfares
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i'm a banana.

3/27/2012 9:15:48 PM

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"According to Vancouver-based lawyer barbara findlay"


Apparently she's "one of those"*





*who buck the capitalization system

3/27/2012 10:00:31 PM

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I was born a magical elf wizard. You say that isn't a gender? I say it is! It's my choice!

*in other words, we are slowly morphing into a society that believes in no absolutes, no universal truths, and the only truth is that whatever anyone wants to believe is right, unless of course you don't believe that, then you're wrong.

What if a biologically born male feels as though their gender is female, but can't afford to have plastic surgery. By this twisted logic, shouldn't they be allowed to compete in Miss USA/America/Universe as well? Where do we draw the line here people?

Also, can we move this to Soap Box please?

[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 7:58 AM. Reason : ]

3/28/2012 7:44:41 AM

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"What if a biologically born male feels as though their gender is female, but can't afford to have plastic surgery. By this twisted logic, shouldn't they be allowed to compete in Miss USA/America/Universe as well?"


Yes. Who gives a shit?

3/28/2012 8:14:53 AM

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^^welcome to post modernism. You've got like 40 years of reading to catch up on.

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3/28/2012 8:44:29 AM

BigHitSunday
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you fuckin people are insane

3/28/2012 9:50:49 AM

V0LC0M
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TDUB is a sad sad place these days

3/28/2012 10:47:08 AM

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3/28/2012 10:50:44 AM

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I used to think bhs was smart but I learned the difference between sex and gender in like middle school.

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3/28/2012 10:54:52 AM

BigHitSunday
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i dont think genderbending came up when i was in grade school

a boy was a boy and a girl was a girl

3/28/2012 12:00:33 PM

Byrn Stuff
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Slippery slope arguments aren't really persuasive.

3/28/2012 12:07:38 PM

adultswim
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^^
probably because bigots like you make kids afraid to come out

[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2012 12:08:11 PM

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"I was born a magical elf wizard. You say that isn't a gender? I say it is! It's my choice!

*in other words, we are slowly morphing into a society that believes in no absolutes, no universal truths, and the only truth is that whatever anyone wants to believe is right, unless of course you don't believe that, then you're wrong.
"



This is correct.

3/28/2012 12:09:57 PM

justinh524
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i believe that geniustimesboy is a clone of hitler. if you believe otherwise, you're wrong.

3/28/2012 1:53:37 PM

BigHitSunday
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i dont bother nobody for their sexual preference at all

i just dont think biological males should be competing in womens competitions and vice versa,

thats all...its not bigotry to think that

3/28/2012 9:27:19 PM

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"i believe that geniustimesboy is a clone of hitler. if you believe otherwise, you're wrong."



believing isnt the same as knowing

3/28/2012 9:35:37 PM

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[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 9:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/28/2012 9:49:29 PM

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If you don't believe in a difference between sex and gender, explain why women are always the server in cook and shanosky iconography

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3/28/2012 9:51:43 PM

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"i just dont think biological males should be competing in womens competitions and vice versa,

thats all...its not bigotry to think that"


i'll agree with you there. that's not bigoted.

this is:
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"why dont the gay and confused community just start their own "miss faggot dick havin tranny" competition and leave the rest of us the hell alone"

3/28/2012 10:22:24 PM

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The absence of lewisje in this thread is glaringly obvious.

It makes me happy.

[Edited on March 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM. Reason : ]

3/28/2012 11:06:41 PM

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"Yes. Who gives a shit?"


Plenty of people give a shit. Why can't we just have a competition where women that were born a biological female and have a female gender and were never a male at any point in their life compete in a pageant. That's what these competitions are supposed to be at heart. I have nothing against this person, it's just that this competition wasn't meant for him. This isn't a gender/sex/whatever issue for me. It's an issue of competition/spirit of competition. In the interest of competition, I (and plenty of other people that give a shit) don't want this line blurred. Would you be happy if we had men start competing in women's sports because they identify their gender as female? That would completely RUIN women's sports, all in the name of having an open mind.

You have your opinions on what gender and sex are and I have mine. The difference is that I'm leaving you to have your opinion and you people are all militant as fuck about this shit and screaming bigotry and pointing fingers and shit. You can be a post-modernist. I am not. You can conform to what you choose to conform to and I'll conform to what I choose to conform to. Damn.

3/29/2012 10:54:08 AM

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a lot of people didn't even read the damned article

3/29/2012 11:10:38 AM

GeniuSxBoY
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a lot of people don't vote in the presidential election,




doesn't make it less important to other people.

3/29/2012 11:13:24 AM

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other people are less important than me

3/29/2012 11:16:28 AM

adultswim
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"Would you be happy if we had men start competing in women's sports because they identify their gender as female?"


I've already addressed this point.

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"You have your opinions on what gender and sex are and I have mine."


Yeah except my "opinions" are backed by psychology, biology, and mountains of anecdotal evidence. Your opinions are based on nothing, other than your refusal to acknowledge this.

3/29/2012 11:22:11 AM

ncwolfpack
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nm

It just boggles my mind that the people who preach the hardest about acceptance and having an open mind are the ones that are the most butthurt over the fact that people believe differently than them. I need to take some of my own advice on that matter to some extent. You have your beliefs. To paraphrase, I may not agree with what you say/believe, but I'll defend to death your right to say/believe it.

V Okay, that almost made me regret changing my post...almost. This has clearly devolved into an immature argument. Little better than two apes beating each other with sticks. No hard feelings bro.

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:44 AM. Reason : ]



[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ]

3/29/2012 11:30:18 AM

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[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:57 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/29/2012 11:39:24 AM

adultswim
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ok

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"It just boggles my mind that the people who preach the hardest about acceptance and having an open mind are the ones that are the most butthurt over the fact that people believe differently than them."


What if I held the opinion that blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry whites? That's clearly fucking stupid and I should be called out on it.

I'm fine with people believing differently than me. I'm not fine when people reject reality because of their intolerance.

I mean really, do you think the millions of transgenders out there are just faking it?

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .]

3/29/2012 11:57:52 AM

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^ that would be fine and I have friends that hold such opinions and I actually understand that people want to have white progeny or black progeny, etc

It'd not relevant to me and in my opinion that doesn't make anyone racist

I'm actually pretty open minded in most regards I don't attack and name call irrationally when people hold opinions that I do not espouse

It's called growing up and interacting with people across spectrums and actually opening your ears and learning from them all while being the best example of a decent human being you can be

Hell I have fishing buddies in their 60s that would probably shoot me if I dated their daughter and it is not a problem to me because they are good people and we mutually respect each other and I Hhave no doubts if I slipped down river they would try to save my life and vice versa

I've bled with people sparring day in and out that have swastikatats and those that are gay that shit doesn't matter they're good to me I'm good to them and I consider them my brothers. Not everything has to be a fucking debate

At the end of the day what you motherfuckers don't get is that disagreeing with someone fundamentally doesn't mean you can't tolerate them that's stupid bullshit and I hate it

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM. Reason : H]

[Edited on March 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM. Reason : H]

3/29/2012 12:12:06 PM

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this is another "what the fuck is happening in this thread" thread

3/29/2012 12:31:57 PM

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"It'd not relevant to me and in my opinion that doesn't make anyone racist"


"Wanting white kids" and "believing black people should not be allowed to marry white people" are entirely different things. The "not relevant to me" argument is selfish.

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"Hell I have fishing buddies in their 60s that would probably shoot me if I dated their daughter and it is not a problem to me because they are good people"


what

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"At the end of the day what you motherfuckers don't get is that disagreeing with someone fundamentally doesn't mean you can't tolerate them that's stupid bullshit and I hate it"


Would you hang out with a dude that thought all Jews should be systematically exterminated? I'll tolerate people's opinions to a point, but everyone draws a line somewhere.

3/29/2012 12:56:04 PM

BigHitSunday
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Ok

3/29/2012 12:58:29 PM

ssclark
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ok

3/29/2012 1:21:37 PM

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3/29/2012 3:36:37 PM

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Miss Virginia

3/29/2012 9:54:46 PM

Krallum
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I discussed this with some women friends and they all ended up agreeing that transwomen shouldn't be allowed to join Ms. Universe.

This just begs me to question:
Why are women always hampering the progress of men?

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4/1/2012 10:08:41 PM

jcg15
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This is some trippy shit mane.

But this mug needs to compete...it is some BS IMHO

Fucking Canadians.

4/1/2012 10:27:39 PM

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"It just boggles my mind that the people who preach the hardest about acceptance and having an open mind are the ones that are the most butthurt over the fact that people believe differently than them."

It shouldn't surprise you. There are plenty of people who think, in a militant fashion, that their beliefs are the only right ones, and that that makes their beliefs more important than any others. adultswim seems to be one of these people. The irony always is that these people fail to see how dogmatic they are, especially since most people like this hate religion with a passion. There is a difference between being accepting of other people's beliefs and shoving your beliefs down other people's throats.

4/1/2012 11:08:27 PM

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hi, ive arrived in this thread to reconfirm everyones preconceived notions

4/2/2012 12:43:49 AM

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"Hell I have fishing buddies in their 60s that would probably shoot me if I dated their daughter and it is not a problem to me because they are good people"


BigHitSunday exposed!!!!!!!

4/2/2012 1:04:18 AM

jcg15
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dang

4/2/2012 1:36:48 AM

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BREAKING NEWS

The Trump organization has reversed its decision, announcing today that it won't attempt to keep Talackova out of the contest.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/trump-wont-bar-transsexual-beauty-queen-shot-miss-002156320--abc-news-celebrities.html

4/3/2012 3:35:44 AM

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awesome!

4/3/2012 11:18:40 AM

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"It shouldn't surprise you. There are plenty of people who think, in a militant fashion, that their beliefs are the only right ones, and that that makes their beliefs more important than any others. adultswim seems to be one of these people. The irony always is that these people fail to see how dogmatic they are, especially since most people like this hate religion with a passion. There is a difference between being accepting of other people's beliefs and shoving your beliefs down other people's throats."


lol. I love this dumbass argument. You're right, I am militaristic in thinking transgendered people should be treated with respect. You are a bigot if you think otherwise. I'm very accepting of other peoples' beliefs. Just not when they're bigoted and/or affect others negatively.

ex. "I think gay people are gross and shouldn't be allowed to marry" - That's nice. You're a fucking moron!

4/3/2012 12:04:53 PM

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Miss Universe Changes Rules to Include Transgender Women

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/430/20120410/miss-universe-changes-rules-include-transgender-women.htm

4/10/2012 8:00:45 PM

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I like the exchange between Trump and Gloria Allred.

4/10/2012 8:12:58 PM

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