6/11/2012 4:06:42 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

6/11/2012 4:06:51 PM

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"No, I just get tired of people whining about cops doing their fucking job when they damned well know that they were breaking the law. "Well, I only stole a dollar. . .It was only 20 over the speed limit. . .it was only 300 dollars in parking tickets. . ." People like to ignore the fact that they were at fault in the first damned place and had they not done something wrong, they wouldn't even have to deal with the shit in the first place. Sure, some people get harassed for no damned reason. . .sure, some people take their medicine like a good boy, but still get fucked over by an asshole or some paperwork. . .but let's not act like the whole damned country is full of do gooders who are taking it up the ass for no damned reason."

Ok, it's just like I said in the thinking thread. I'm sorry if it makes me a dumbass or a world class bitch, but I think that a lot of you are just whining because you got caught to start with.

6/11/2012 4:09:36 PM

yea, but my fiance tried correcting what he did wrong, he fully acknowledged he was wrong... tried to pay by mail, tried to go to court, and was still arrested, for a traffic ticket, then had $1000 bail put on him and the judge treated him like a murderer.


not the cops fault, though the cop threatened to shoot my dog, not cool.

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2012 4:11:05 PM

^^I think you have serious reading comprehension problems if that is what you are getting from this thread

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 4:12 PM. Reason : h]

6/11/2012 4:11:46 PM

I think bottombaby formed an opinion before reading any posts and is now repeating that opinion while being as condescending as possible. She's taking a very confusing stance.

6/11/2012 4:12:03 PM

yeah, I can't tell if there is some ghost posts I'm not seeing, because she is blindly arguing something that hasn't been addressed here...

6/11/2012 4:12:47 PM

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"I think bottombaby formed an opinion before reading any posts and is now repeating that opinion while being as condescending as possible. She's taking a very confusing stance."

this exactly. her step-dads a cop so she gets into hyperdefensive mode without even bothering to comprehend what people are saying

6/11/2012 4:13:51 PM

I don't remember bottombaby being this big of a cunt...but for some reason I get her username confused with punchmonk's a lot, and everybody likes punchmonk. I think that blurs my perception a bit. I need to pay more attention to who's posting what.

6/11/2012 4:14:04 PM

this seems a little off - almost seems like I'm reading thumper-esque kind of responses here

6/11/2012 4:15:15 PM

I believe most cops are good and decent people, bb's relatives included, but during the trip to PD my fiance also overheard him talking to another cop about how he wanted to pistol whip someone so badly.... lol

just putting that out there.

6/11/2012 4:15:31 PM

I was going to say.... bottombaby, just admit that you posted before actually reading. It would be much better to cut your losses as opposed to defending some asinine point that no one is even arguing just so that you can save face.

6/11/2012 4:16:04 PM

i wasn't mad because i got a speeding ticket. i was mad because even after i took care of it and did everything i was supposed to, the justice system dropped the ball and came really close to seriously fucking me up. the thing is, if you fuck up, you face the consequences and if they fuck up, you still face the consequences.

6/11/2012 4:16:43 PM

^ +1

6/11/2012 4:17:21 PM

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"Drinking underage...is just asking for it."

oh the humanity

6/11/2012 4:17:35 PM

there are good cops just as there are bad cops


there are good priests just as there are bad priests


there are good teachers just as there are bad teachers


to act like the public shouldn't be upset when a bad apple shows up is ridiculous. not sure why we are talking about that here, as bb is the only who seems to be interested in this "argument"

6/11/2012 4:17:37 PM

ps- add to my topics for later lol-ing

buhbye

6/11/2012 4:18:54 PM

Not really. It's just a slow afternoon and being a dumb bitch comes naturally.

6/11/2012 4:21:14 PM

I'll definitely agree that it's just the 98% of cops that make the other 2% look bad

6/11/2012 4:22:34 PM

6/11/2012 4:27:14 PM

Hey bottombaby I bet its all of these peoples fault they were wrongly identified too....
http://www.denverpost.com/investigations/ci_19792644



If the court personnel got thrown in jail for fucking up paperwork they would probably pay better attention to what they are doing too....but they dont, they do not give a shit, its virtually impossible to get fired from a job like that and when they mess up it never gets noticed until the media gets after them.

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2012 4:38:21 PM

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"Klaty, It has nothing to do with having "important" family members. It's common knowledge that if you're pulled for tags/registration/inspection that all you have to do is correct the problem and show them that you've rectified the problem. In Wake County, you don't even have to wait until your court date. You just wait in line to see the DA/ADA and show them your stuff and it's dismissed."

Yeah, this is common knowledge. You show up and show proof and that's it. No court costs, nothing.

6/11/2012 4:43:33 PM

Let's be honest though, the ones privy to that knowledge likely aren't the fucking morons driving around with expired tags.

6/11/2012 4:45:14 PM

i drove around with expired tags for around 3 months, finally got pulled over, and the cop just let me go. the only time i got ticketed for it was when i was pulled for speeding in VA.

6/11/2012 4:54:33 PM

not bottombaby's brightest moment ITT

6/11/2012 5:01:42 PM

ITT BB argues that government employees are the most vigilant and trustworthy employees.

6/11/2012 5:07:48 PM

What exactly is being argued here?

We need an ask the police thread

6/11/2012 6:02:08 PM

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"Klaty, It has nothing to do with having "important" family members. It's common knowledge that if you're pulled for tags/registration/inspection that all you have to do is correct the problem and show them that you've rectified the problem. In Wake County, you don't even have to wait until your court date. You just wait in line to see the DA/ADA and show them your stuff and it's dismissed."

yes it has nothing to do with these types of fines being unfair on the poor, who are:

a. More likely to be stopped for bullshit
b. More likely to work a full-time minimum wage job where they can't afford to be fired, so they don't have time to "just go down town and wait in line."
c. More likely to not be able to afford a fine.

Remember, in the great country of the United States we are dumb enough to think it's fair to charge everyone the same amount for fines. So a man making $100,000 a year pays the same $250 tag fine as a man making $15,000 a year. But one of them may have to decide whether or not to pay the fine or put food on the table.

Just saying, don't be such a judgmental bitch.

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 6:53 PM. Reason : ]

6/11/2012 6:53:05 PM

That had nothing to do with paying a fine. If you register your car and show them you did it, you don't pay a fine.

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 6:55 PM. Reason : oh fuck it.]

6/11/2012 6:54:04 PM

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"What exactly is being argued here?"

the original discussion was rather or not its fair/ethical for publications like the slammer to post peoples pictures like that when they havent even been convicted. Obviously its public info so nothing anyone can do about it. That led to a discussion about various paperwork/system errors that have led to false FTA arrests. Then BB came in her bitching that we all hate cops and in a perfect world bad things wouldn't happen to good people.

6/11/2012 6:58:51 PM

i don't have a dog in this fight


but y'all do hate police officers. be real.

6/11/2012 7:00:00 PM

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" Then BB came in her bitching that we all hate cops and in a perfect world bad things wouldn't happen to good people."

There's a name for this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

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"The just-world hypothesis (or just-world fallacy) is a cognitive bias referring to the common assumption that the outcomes of situations are caused or guided by some universal force of justice, order, stability, or desert. In other words, the just-world hypothesis is people's tendency to attribute consequences to, or expect consequences as the result of, a cosmic power responsible for the righting of past wrongs, injustices, or imbalances. The premise of the fallacy popularly appears in English in the form of various figures of speech, which often imply a negative reprisal of justice, such as: "You got what was coming to you," "What goes around comes around," and "You reap what you sow.""

6/11/2012 7:00:38 PM

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"i don't have a dog in this fight but y'all do hate police officers. be real."

It's not hate, it's just acknowledgement that they're mostly a corrupt strongarm organization legally authorized to kill people that does nothing to reform itself and perpetuates its shittiness.

6/11/2012 7:01:40 PM

I think I got started because some of you were talking about BS charges like FTA not being worthy of ending up in the Slammer. But I think that if you were doing what you were supposed to in the first place, you wouldn't have to worry about being in the Slammer or getting fucked because of paperwork errors.

6/11/2012 7:02:15 PM

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"but y'all do hate police officers."

I don't

6/11/2012 7:02:52 PM

^^Yes because no one has every been wrongly arrested of anything.

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 7:03 PM. Reason : ]

6/11/2012 7:02:59 PM

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"But I think that if you were doing what you were supposed to in the first place, you wouldn't have to worry about being in the Slammer or getting fucked because of paperwork errors."

Yeah.... that was the dumb ass logic you exhibited earlier. That faulty logic that rides on the assumption that police somehow NEVER arrest people that are innocent


remember, an arrest (not conviction) is all that's needed to appear in Slammer.

6/11/2012 7:05:32 PM

It was probably for something stupid and not really a big deal.

Regardless, I don't care because Misha is awesome and consistently friendly and nice.

6/11/2012 7:05:47 PM

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""but y'all do hate police officers.""

I actually don't. I have a lot of respect for good police officers. I also hold them to a higher standard. With more power, comes responsibility to wield that power in a just and intelligent manner.

6/11/2012 7:06:02 PM

^^

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 7:06 PM. Reason : ^ is pretty on point too though]

6/11/2012 7:06:09 PM

Well, in my opinion the overwhelming majority of people aren't randomly picked on by law enforcement for no damned reason.

6/11/2012 7:07:27 PM

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"remember, an arrest (not conviction) is all that's needed to appear in Slammer."

really, all they need is a mugshot. I've been arrested, but not transported downtown, thus I did not appear in any of these shitty magazines/websites

6/11/2012 7:07:36 PM

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"Let's be honest though, the ones privy to that knowledge likely aren't the fucking morons driving around with expired tags."

Some of the world's brightest thinkers are notoriously moronic enough to forget things like renewing their tags.

6/11/2012 7:08:03 PM

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"I also hold them to a higher standard. With more power, comes responsibility to wield that power in a just and intelligent manner."

If only they held themselves to a higher standard, but police notoriously serve lesser sentences (or no sentences at all) for the same crimes that would send someone to prison for years. You'd think that with more responsibility you'd want to punish them harsher, but apparently they always seem to get a break.

6/11/2012 7:08:09 PM

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"Well, in my opinion the overwhelming majority of people aren't randomly picked on by law enforcement for no damned reason."

yeah, it's mainly just blacks and hispanics

6/11/2012 8:22:57 PM

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" Some of the world's brightest thinkers are notoriously moronic enough to forget things like renewing their tags."

Steve Jobs did not put license plates on his cars.

True Story

6/11/2012 8:57:58 PM

bottombaby has a valid point...if you don't do anything wrong you won't get arrested...but valid in the way of you're 25 years old and spend time in prison 3 times. You're constantly getting arrested for drug possession, felony possession of a firearm...etc. With all of that happening you're still wondering why the cops keep harassing you.

But there are still plenty of people out there who get way more than needed punishment for errors in the justice system.

I've recently seen first handed the way that errors in the justice system can fuck someone's life up.

6/11/2012 9:37:31 PM

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"Well, in my opinion the overwhelming majority of people aren't randomly picked on by law enforcement for no damned reason."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisking#Questionable_use_of_.E2.80.9Cstop_and_frisk.E2.80.9D.3F

6/11/2012 9:41:18 PM

nah, dawg, those people were askin for it by wearing baggy pants

6/11/2012 9:42:25 PM

^^ First thing I thought of when I read BB's post.

New York 'randomly' stops and frisks more blacks in a year than actually live in the city.

Carry on! Nothing to see here.

6/12/2012 12:48:23 AM