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"more "room" on a smaller screen"

Yes this is commonly referred to as DPI or screen resolution. The Touchpad (like the 1-2 iPads) are 1024 by 768 which isn't even technically "HD". Not to speak for everyone but I'd make a bet most people in this thread would take a 7-8" tablet with a 1280x800+ resolution over a 10" tablet with a 1024 by 768 resolution. Hell phones these days even have higher resolution than that. Higher end 10" tablets today are 1920 by 1200 to 2048-by-1536. That's twice the resolution of a Touchpad.

Are you seriously comparing the HP Touchpad to a Quad Core Tegra 3 tablet? The GUI alone with 4.1 is vastly superior and zippier not to mention how much smoother everything else is.

7/18/2012 1:32:56 AM

i'd much rather watch movies on a tablet with 1024x768 and a 10" screen than any phone with a 4-5" retina display

i'm not comparing a low end laptop with a 14" screen to a netbook with superior hardware, i'm just saying I don't think you're going to be so blown away by the graphic clarity on a 7" Nexus compared to a decent enough looking 10" tablet screen when watching movies

and browsing might be a bit snappier, but a lot of browsing has to do more with network speeds than hardware capabilities

and again, what do people do with a tablet besides browse the web and watch movies? i can run 99% of the same Android apps on my Touchpad as the Nexus 7, but what crazy hardware intensive things are people planning to do with this thing?

i'm not trying to knock the Nexus 7, it sounds pretty awesome...if it had a 10" screen it would blow the Touchpad away

a friend of mine was hyping up some games on his iPhone 4...they looked awesome for what they were but i was like "i'd rather play XBox on a huge TV"

7/18/2012 1:39:19 AM

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"i'd much rather watch movies on a tablet with 1024x768 and a 10" screen than any phone with a 4-5" retina display"

True but I'd rather watch actual HD movies on a 720p display on a 7-8" tablet than blurry movies on a 10" display at 1024 by 768. Not to mention the actual display is a much nicer IPS panel on the Nexus 7. Brighter, better contrast, better viewing angles, etc.

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"and again, what do people do with a tablet besides browse the web and watch movies?"

Lots and lots of stuff. You'd be amazed at what people do on tablets now. Gaming is a big one. Along with a ton of other crap.

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"a friend of mine was hyping up some games on his iPhone 4...they looked awesome for what they were but i was like "i'd rather play XBox on a huge TV""

While I'm a true PC/console gamer at heart a growing chuck of gaming sales are now going to mobile/tablet gaming and that's the direction gaming is heading. People want a quick fix and the ability to play on the go. Just look at Angry Birds.

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"People play mobile games more often than console games as well. Survey respondents showed much greater interest in mobile games than consoles. Just 18 percent said that they played games on consoles while 33 percent said they play games on phones. 46 percent of all time spent playing video games was on mobile devices. 40 percent of adults that took the survey had played at least one mobile game in the past month."

-http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/iphone-vs-xbox-people-spend-more-time-playing-mobile-games-than-console-games/

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"i'm not trying to knock the Nexus 7, it sounds pretty awesome...if it had a 10" screen it would blow the Touchpad away"

I own an iPad 3 and while I love it it's a little big. 10" is awkward. It's too big to comfortably hold in one hand and it's the size of a netbook and heavy. I'd much rather have a 7-8" Tablet. This is the primary reason the Nexus 7 sounds appealing to me.

[Edited on July 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM. Reason : s]

7/18/2012 1:58:07 AM

well you can go ahead and eliminate the WebOS part. Jellybean blows it away in all regards.

As far as CM vs. Jellybean, well I guess just wait for CM10 to be ported to the Touchpad and see if any of the Jellybean enhancements will work for it. If not, then there's your clear winner.

7/18/2012 2:04:15 AM

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"blurry movies on a 10" display at 1024 by 768"

LOL

http://i.imgur.com/Q9KNy.png (screencap from Drive, disregard the advertising thing that only pops up during pause) (and thats during a high speed chase)

http://i.imgur.com/P762W.png just in case you think license plate is due to touchpad's video and not the motion of the flim

and a netflix screen for comparison http://i.imgur.com/G5RsJ.png

might not be as sharp as the Nexus, but its by no means blurry, and its very watchable

7/18/2012 2:22:57 AM

Lets talk cases. I liked the idea of getting the one through google play, although it might be neat to have one in a different color. What kind of case is everyone going with?

7/18/2012 6:33:07 AM

^^You're just trolling now. You're seriously posting screen shots of movies to compare?

1024 by 768 on a 10" tablet is blurry and pixelated. It's a really low DPI. It's hard to even look at a tablet with that low DPI and watch a movie. The reason why I held off on getting a tablet for the longest time was because of the poor resolutions on older tablets. The iPad 1/2, Touchpad, etc just look bad to me. My first laptop in 2003 had a 1920 by 1200 resolution and I guess that spoiled me. 1024 by 768 just reminds me of those 15" CRTs from the late 90's.

7/18/2012 9:05:26 AM

Typing this from my 7

Look, the touchpad is a great device, no doubt about it. The screen is high quality, its loaded with hardware and has a very active community.

The main thing you're getting with the nexus is that Google first party brand. You know this thing isn't going to get fragmented anytime in the near future.

Other than that, you get Bluetooth 4.0, GPS, much much faster CPU and GPU, NFC and a pogopin port.

Not a whole lot of difference honestly. But for me at least, I own a 10" tablet in the iPad3, so owning a 10" android tablet doesn't have such appeal. The nexus is hands down the best of the 4 different 7" tablets I own and the 7-8 I've used.

7/18/2012 11:03:44 AM

have they announced a dock yet?

7/18/2012 11:15:58 AM

^^lol you own 4 7" tablets? So as an iPad 3 user so you think the Nexus 7 will replace it for every day use?

7/18/2012 11:21:45 AM

Yeah I use a lot of different hardware. Hell I've got 5 different smartphones right now.

And yes, this thing will definitely supplant the iPad for daily use. It fits in my back pocket, long battery life and its performant. Prior to this, a Nook with ICS and the Kindle fire vied for daily use.

7" just works better for reading, which I have to do a lot of. I do love the iPad for traveling and browsing the net at home, as well as the little gaming I do. The games on iPad are getting insanely well developed and produced.

7/18/2012 11:41:24 AM

I currently have an iphone, but i'm considering one of these.

Maybe I need to find one and play with it a bit.

7/18/2012 1:54:21 PM

Flew 5 hours w/ the 7 yesterday. Absolutely amazing for reading. Just so damn easy to use and super fast CPU along w/ 4.1..love.

I haven't seen any cases I like yet but the thing fits perfectly inside the back flap pocket of a leather folio I have. Carried it into several meetings today and it felt totally natural.

7/18/2012 9:19:59 PM

So who wants to buy my touchpad?

7/18/2012 9:25:57 PM

If anyone wants to sell their N7 HOLLA!

7/18/2012 10:26:42 PM

ordered one. excited to get it. does the home screen being stuck in portrait instead of auto-switching to landscape when you rotate it piss anyone off? this is my biggest concern.

7/19/2012 2:51:39 AM

doesn't bother me at all.

7/19/2012 3:17:50 AM

Kinda annoys me a bit, simply because i'm used to primarily using it in landscape. They were going for a reader-style device.

Still, there's already ways out to get it into landscape mode if you want it

7/19/2012 10:28:29 AM

I read a few reports of loose screens, anyone have any problems?

7/19/2012 11:54:24 AM

my bottom right corner creaks

I'm going to try the self-repair since it seems easy enough. Just pop off the back and tighten the perimeter screws

7/19/2012 12:04:54 PM

So what apps/stuff have you guys spent your $25 on so far?

I'm looking for a good stylus-based note-taking app to match what I have for the iPad.

7/19/2012 5:25:34 PM

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"I read a few reports of loose screens, anyone have any problems?"

None here, tight as a "insert crass thing here"

7/19/2012 8:20:55 PM

My Motorola Xoom has been dead for months and I don't really miss it.

My main beef with it is its always dead, no way to program it to shut down after a period of non-use thereby making the battery lsat, also I hate shutting it down because boot up takes too long.

That and the bastard charger that is on the wrong side of the device.

Probably should sell it while I can.

7/20/2012 12:02:46 AM

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/video-nexus-7-touchscreen-defect-20120720/





[Edited on July 20, 2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason : uh oh]

7/20/2012 10:00:03 AM

^ havent run into that yet.

7/21/2012 12:00:11 AM

I played that Dead Trigger game they kept showing off on the nexus

The graphics are great but good god, fps controls on a touchscreen

7/22/2012 6:43:36 PM

so yeah, cases. a lot of people on XDA like these two:
http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Multi-Angle-Black-Google-Tablet/dp/B008F05Q2E/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3PNX4KCCN3GST&colid=2KWIRQ1PEHLSD
http://www.amazon.com/CaseCrown-Google-Built--magnet-feature/dp/B008K9TSG0/ref=sr_1_20?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1342881065&sr=1-20&keywords=case+crown+nexus

but idk what to buy.

7/23/2012 10:21:18 PM

Vegan leather!!

7/23/2012 10:23:16 PM

i lol'd at that.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MYWZMM/ref=ox_ya_os_product

another one that looks interesting.

TELL ME WHAT TO BUY TDUB

7/23/2012 10:27:40 PM

I like that last one. The first 2 look too nerdy.

7/23/2012 10:47:59 PM

i do too. I'm considering getting it in orange. i'll give it a day and see if I don't find anything better though

there's also this one: http://www.amazon.com/BLUREX-Multi-Angle-Automatic-Function-Version/dp/B008D2Q8RG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_7 but it looks really bulky

7/23/2012 10:52:37 PM

used some of my 25 free bucks on splashtop remote desktop. It's really slick. I'm sure I'll find a way to get some use out of it.

7/24/2012 12:47:43 PM

^That's one of the biggest reasons I want a Nexus 7. You can use Splashtop to run PC games through remote desktop full screen.

7/24/2012 12:59:38 PM

one of the first things i did was load up starcraft ii via my nexus 7, but the problem is the interface isn't exactly ideal for a RTS haha.

7/24/2012 1:04:19 PM

Fullscreen work alright?

Splashtop THD apparently has USB controller and mouse support for certain games:

http://support-remote.splashtop.com/entries/21239226-basic-thd-manual

So you can use a controller for Skyrim on your Nexus 7. Sounds cool.

7/24/2012 1:16:44 PM

I don't think it would be too difficult to design a touch screen input overlay program for any game that uses only mouse control.

For example a system where a single finger is the mouse cursor, a tap to the left of that finger is a left click and to the right is a right click. So you would use your middle finger to control the cursor, index finger to left click, and ring finger to right click. You could also choose whether to use full screen control or a transparent box at the bottom of the screen as an on-screen touchpad.

7/24/2012 1:22:43 PM

That's what they already have for Skyrim I believe.

http://support-remote.splashtop.com/entries/21239226-basic-thd-manual

"Game Mode"

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"To enter this mode, execute a 3-finger tap, then tap on the left-most icon in the menu. Once in gaming mode, a 3-finger tap will provide a menu to return to desktop mode or to chose a game profile. The game profile provides a virtual gamepad as well as mappings to support a USB controller or mouse if the game profile has this built into it."

7/24/2012 1:57:38 PM

Picked up a 16gb n7 today at Staples. Now trying to cancel the one I ordered from Google last week, that should be here in a month I guess? It's my first tablet (iPod Touch before this) and I'm really liking it so far.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/24/2012 3:26:35 PM

^^ I have already played Diablo 3 on my Iconia A200 through SplashTop. I did not know about the game mode, but it worked and was fairly functional with just the touch screen or a mouse.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 8:22 PM. Reason : /]

7/24/2012 8:21:19 PM

Full screen was working okay earlier. I initiated it with my laptop screen closed and it limited me as a mobile screen on windows side and that made me mad. Screen doesn't really support it but I had sc2 at 1980x1080 or whatever it is

7/25/2012 1:36:12 AM

I bought the third case I posted in red

7/26/2012 1:27:52 PM

Mine Is going to be delivered tomorrow! Can't wait.

7/26/2012 10:14:57 PM

I too need a case but have no idea what to get

7/26/2012 10:45:08 PM

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_Cover_Dark_Grey?id=nexus_7_cover

7/26/2012 10:54:37 PM

no, that one is kind of poop

7/26/2012 11:24:19 PM

Kindle Fire cases will fit the Nexus 7. I grabbed one from target this past weekend and its awesome.

7/27/2012 1:58:47 AM

Staples in Lincolnton, NC has a 16 I'm about to pick up and a bunch of 8s in stock if anyone's interested.

7/27/2012 3:18:55 PM

Woohoo got a 16gb. They still have 6-7 8gbs if anyone wants one.

7/27/2012 4:19:30 PM

I thought they didn't sell the 8s in stores?

[Edited on July 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM. Reason : ]

7/27/2012 6:21:51 PM

Staples has both.

7/27/2012 6:45:29 PM