Quote :

"I don't know that Romney is ever going to withdraw that money"

he, or his beneficiary if he dies, is forced to withdraw and pay the subsequent taxes on every dime of that in a specific time frame.

look, i don't even like the guy, but I'm not gonna blame him for not handing out a $100 bill to everyone he passes on the street.

7/27/2012 1:47:57 PM

BridgetSPK So your argument to being called out for having no idea what the fuck you're talking about is to belittle someone who is actually educated on the topic that you're trying to argue about?

You'd make a great republican.

[Edited on July 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/27/2012 1:49:37 PM

Romney becomes president kiss abortions good bye.

7/27/2012 2:02:15 PM

Quote :

"Romney becomes president kiss back alley abortions good bye. hello"

7/27/2012 2:03:50 PM

^^^^Perhaps we have miscommunicated. Because I also don't really "blame" the guy for avoiding taxes when it is totally legal for him to do so...I know plenty of people in all sorts of positions who take advantage of loopholes, and I don't resent them for it.

But...do you think the current tax code is equitable?

^^^You don't need to understand the intricacies of the system to know when something is unethical or wrong, when something needs changing. I don't know how to change it, and I'd have to go back to school or something to really understand it. But it's unfair to set up a system that is so complicated that when a regular person objects to it, then the ranks close and it's like, "Oh, you're a rube. You don't get it. Just be grateful for your job and deal with it."

And I'm the truest rube. I like living on very little money--it feels righteous to me personally. But there's other people who aspire to more, and I don't feel comfortable telling them to suck it up and deal with what they're given when extraordinarily wealthy people don't even pay taxes. It's a problem. Do you agree or no?

7/27/2012 2:11:47 PM

Quote :

"I'd have to go back to school or something to really understand it."

In the age of the fucking Internet, this is the LAMEST excuse to argue from an ill-informed position. Take 20 minutes and READ SOMETHING.

Quote :

"It's a problem. Do you agree or no?"

i disagree with all of your false premises. There are certain changes that I believe could be made to incentivize the wealthy to invest money in activities that contribute to economic output rather than passive income, but the premise that people should be taxed solely on the basis of "he has more than someone else" is crap.

now go read a book, and educate yourself so you'll stop looking like a retarded middle school girl.

7/27/2012 3:12:43 PM

^It's not a "middle school girl" thing to wonder how somebody was able to squeeze $20+ million into an account that was designed to take $30,000/year. Yes, you can expect personal stocks to grow...but to the tune of 20-100 million? Really? Was Mitt Romney born lucky...like not just born a very wealthy boy but also one of the luckiest men ever?

And as long as you're accusing me of false premises, I'll begin the rebuttal by asserting that I never said someone who makes more money should have to pay more than someone else. I am very open-minded about all this stuff. But, what's so offensive, is the people who hold large sums of money without paying taxes and then, for whatever reason, we all have to build our tax code around them because they are "job creators" when they don't actually create any jobs. This is insanity, and you know it.

Furthermore, while I am very open-minded, I do have my limits. And I suspect (or at least hope) you have your limits too. I would be very troubled to learn that you thought it was cool for some guy to get 30 million extra dollars in a year and not pay taxes on it...

7/27/2012 5:17:26 PM

Soap box in my Chit Chat?
Its more likely than you think.

7/27/2012 6:01:34 PM

1. As head of the investment company Bain Capital, Mitt Romney laid off thousands of workers.
[CBS News, 01/28/2008]

2. Mitt Romney's advice on the foreclosure crisis: "Don't try and stop the foreclosure process."
[Mother Jones, 10/18/2011]

3. The former Bain Capital managing director said of Mitt Romney's tenure: "We had a scheme where the rich got richer."
[Los Angeles Times, 12/16/2007]

4. Mitt Romney set up shell companies in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda to avoid U.S. taxes.
[Los Angeles Times, 12/19/2007]

5. Mitt Romney calls Obama's payroll tax cut that would save middle class/lower income families $1,500 a year "temporary little band aids."
[Yahoo! News, 10/18/2011]

6. Mitt Romney's first budget as governor included $240 million in fee increases.
[Meet the Press, 12/16/2007]

7. As governor, Mitt Romney made it more expensive to use an ice skating rink, register a boat, take the bar exam, and transport hazardous waste.
[Associated Press, The Boston Globe, 08/28/2007]

8. Mitt Romney's plan for a "middle class tax cut" would provide zero benefits to 73.9 percent of the middle class.
[ThinkProgress, 10/14/2011]

9. In 2008, Mitt Romney proposed a $233 billion "stimulus package" to boost the economy.
[USA Today, 01/20/2008]

10. Under Mitt Romney's leadership, Massachusetts ranked 47th among the 50 states in job creation.
[ThinkProgress, 06/2/2011]

11. During Mitt Romney's tenure, Massachusetts' job growth was at 0.9 percent, far behind the national average of over 5 percent.
[ThinkProgress, 06/2/2011]

12. A Northeastern University economist found that Massachusetts lagged on virtually every economic indicator while Mitt Romney was in office.
[ThinkProgress, 06/2/2011]

13. Mitt Romney has proposed tax cuts for the rich and corporations that would cost $7.8 trillion over 10 years.
[ThinkProgress, 09/7/2011]

14. Mitt Romney boasts a record for creating private-sector jobs, but as governor, state employment grew twice as fast as the private sector.
[ThinkProgress, 09/6/2011]

15. Mitt Romney called the Occupy Wall Street movement "dangerous."
[ThinkProgress, 10/4/2011]

16. Mitt Romney's top economic adviser Greg Mankiw said the "offshoring" of American jobs was a good thing.
[Washington Post, 02/11/2004]

17. Mitt Romney called for taxes on the poor, saying low-income Americans having no income tax liability is "a problem" that will "kill the country."
[ThinkProgress, 09/21/2011]

18. Mitt Romney called the auto bailout "tragic." After it succeeded his campaign claimed he "had the idea first."
[ThinkProgress, 05/25/2011]

19. Back in 2002, a spokesman for Mitt Romney derided an anti-tax pledge as "government by gimmickry." He signed the Americans for Tax Reform pledge in 2011.
[ThinkProgress, 06/29/2011]

20. Mitt Romney admits he couldn't reduce Massachusetts' multi-billion dollar budget deficit without new revenue.
[The Boston Globe, 04/6/2003]

21. Mitt Romney would repeal the Dodd-Frank bill, which regulates the risky practices that led to the 2008 crisis.
[ThinkProgress, 08/25/2011]

22. Mitt Romney, who lambasts the "failures" of government-backed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, profits from investments in the firms.
[ThinkProgress, 09/20/2011]

23. Mitt Romney: "Corporations are people, my friend."
[ThinkProgress, 08/11/2011]

24. In 1996, Mitt Romney called the flat tax a "tax cut for fat cats." In 2011, Romney said "I love a flat tax."
[New York Times, 10/24/2011]

25. Mitt Romney supports privatizing Social Security.
[ThinkProgress, 09/8/2011]

26. Mitt Romney defended his belief that we "should consider a higher retirement age" for Social Security and Medicare to preserve tax breaks for corporations.
[ThinkProgress, 08/11/2011]

27. Mitt Romney signed a budget that cut K-12 spending by $181.6 million (4 percent) and higher education spending by $100 million (10 percent).
[The Boston Globe, 10/24/2005]

28. Mitt Romney said he wants to "get the federal government out of education."
[ThinkProgress, 09/23/2011]

29. As governor, Mitt Romney vetoed a minimum wage increase to $8 an hour.
[The Boston Globe, 08/1/2006]

Foreign Policy

30. Mitt Romney said he "cannot see that a Cabinet position would be justified" for an American Muslim.
[Politico, 11/27/2007]

31. Mitt Romney opposes troop withdrawal from Iraq.
[ThinkProgress, 10/21/2011]

32. Mitt Romney says the U.S. should cede humanitarian aid and global leadership to China: "We ought to get the Chinese to take care of the people."
[ThinkProgress, 10/19/2011]

33. Mitt Romney vowed to increase the size of the military by 100,000 troops.
[Associated Press, 10/8/2011]

34. Mitt Romney said that catching bin Laden would be "insignificant" and it's "not worth moving heaven and earth."
[New York Times, 05/3/2007]

35. Mitt Romney wanted "bombardment" of Iran.
[New York Times, 10/26/2007]

36. Mitt Romney advocated doubling the size of Guantanamo.
[ThinkProgress, 08/22/2011]

37. Mitt Romney says Obama's worst foreign policy mistake is the START treaty, a modest treaty originally negotiated by Reagan to ensure nuclear stability between the U.S. and Russia.
[ThinkProgress, 07/6/2010]

38. Many of Mitt Romney's foreign policy advisers helped push the U.S. into war with Iraq.
[ThinkProgress, 10/6/2011]

39. In 2008, Mitt Romney said if a Democrat won the White House it would mean "attacks on America."
[ThinkProgress, 02/7/2008]

40. Mitt Romney says it was "entirely possible" that Saddam did have WMDs.
[ThinkProgress, 05/8/2007]

41. Asked if Iraq was a mistake, Mitt Romney said "Well, the question is kind of a nonsequitur."
[Media Matters, 06/6/2007]

42. Mitt Romney named Walid Phares, a radical Islamophobe tied to a militia that committed atrocities, to his foreign policy team.
[The New Republic, 10/24/2011]

43. Mitt Romney won't say whether he thinks waterboarding is torture.
[Democracy Now, 11/29/2007]

Environment

44. Mitt Romney criticized President Obama for a nearly identical green energy program Romney set up in his state. Three of the six companies the Massachusetts fund invested in are now defunct or struggling.
[Politico, 10/26/2011]

45. Mitt Romney opposes regulating carbon dioxide and other gases linked to climate change.
[ThinkProgress, 08/26/2011]

46. Mitt Romney supports drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
[The Boston Globe, 12/13/2005]

47. Mitt Romney considers liquid coal a "clean" technology, though it emits more greenhouse gasses than oil.
[USA Today, 09/27/2007]

48. Mitt Romney stalled and eventually withdrew from a multi-state "pollution pact" that would cap plants' carbon emissions.
[The Boston Globe, 12/10/2005]

49. Mitt Romney said the Clean Air Act doesn't apply to carbon emissions.
[ThinkProgress, 07/18/2011]

50. Today, Mitt Romney says a cap and trade program would have "devastating results for people across the planet." In 2005, Romney said he was "convinced" that cap and trade was "good business."
[ThinkProgress, 05/20/2011]

7/28/2012 11:45:05 AM

51. Mitt Romney's energy policy adviser works for a lobbying firm for a major coal company.
[ThinkProgress, 09/12/2011]

52. Mitt Romney supports unlimited coal and oil production.
[ThinkProgress, 05/20/2011]

Social Issues

53. Mitt Romney supports penalties for doctors who perform an abortion.
[ThinkProgress, 10/3/2011]

54. Mitt Romney wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned.
[Meet The Press, 12/16/2007]

55. Mitt Romney used to say he was pro-choice, and now he's "avidly pro-life."
[Sioux City Journal, 12/27/2007]

56. Mitt Romney would "absolutely" support a state constitutional amendment to define life as beginning at conception, which would restrict women's right to an abortion.
[ThinkProgress, 10/3/2011]

57. In 2005, Mitt Romney vetoed a measure that would have increased access to emergency contraception by allowing pharmacists to provide the pill without a prescription.
[ThinkProgress, 07/29/2011]

58. Mitt Romney pledged to expand a Bush-Era policy of permitting doctors to deny women access to contraceptives.
[ThinkProgress, 09/6/2011]

59. Top Mitt Romney legal adviser Robert Bork said women "aren't discriminated against anymore."
[ThinkProgress, 10/17/2011]

60. Mitt Romney drafted a bill to exempt a religious group from nondiscrimination rules, allowing it to ban gay couples from adopting children.
[Associated Press, 03/14/2006]

61. In the 1990s, Mitt Romney told the Log Cabin Republicans that he'd be better than Ted Kennedy on gay rights.
[ThinkProgress, 06/8/2011]

62. Mitt Romney has signed the National Organization for Marriage anti-gay campaign pledge, calling for a federal amendment outlawing same-sex marriage.
[ThinkProgress, 08/4/2011]

63. Mitt Romney on Don't Ask, Don't Tell's end: "I believe it should have been kept in place until conflict was over."
[ThinkProgress, 06/13/2011]

64. Mitt Romney refused to condemn the booing of a gay soldier at a GOP debate.
[ThinkProgress, 10/4/2011]

65. Mitt Romney suggested the government should continue to subsidize religious organizations that discriminate against gay couples in the adoption process.
[ThinkProgress, 09/6/2011]

66. Campaigning in 1994, Mitt Romney said "I don't line up with the NRA." Today, Mitt Romney is a lifetime member of the NRA.
[Time, 05/10/2007]

67. Mitt Romney criticized Ted Kennedy for not being tough enough on guns.
[The Boston Globe, 08/27/1994]

68. Mitt Romney falsely claimed he was endorsed by the NRA in 2002.
[Washington Post, 12/16/2007]

69. Mitt Romney blamed pornography for the Virginia Tech shooting.
[Fox News, 07/5/2007]

Health Care

70. Mitt Romney's former health care consultant, an MIT economist, claimed the former governor is being "dishonest" when he says he didn't have to raise taxes in order to pay for Romneycare.
[ThinkProgress, 10/14/2011]

71. Mitt Romney said he supported the Ryan Republican budget plan that would effectively end Medicare.
[ThinkProgress, 04/25/2011]

72. Mitt Romney's first act as president would be to allow all states to opt out of health reform through executive action, which would be illegal.
[ThinkProgress, 03/23/2011]

73. Mitt Romney would repeal the broad prohibition against denying coverage to individuals with pre-existing conditions.
[ThinkProgress, 05/13/2011]

74. Mitt Romney claims Massachusetts is not a model for health reform, after saying in 2009 his state "is a model for getting everyone insured."
[ThinkProgress, 04/8/2010]

75. Mitt Romney criticizes "Obamacare" but it is functionally identical to Romneycare.
[ThinkProgress, 01/19/2010]

76. Mitt Romney reversed his campaign position, enacting abstinence-only sex education in schools.
[The Boston Globe, 06/30/2007]

77. Mitt Romney's health care advisers played a key role in drafting the Affordable Care Act.
[ThinkProgress, 03/5/2010]

Immigration

78. Mitt Romney: "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals."
[Politico, 10/19/2007]

79. Mitt Romney initially supported the Bush plan for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. He later denounced it.
[Washington Post, 02/4/2008]

80. Mitt Romney was endorsed in 2008 by radical anti-immigrant activists like Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) and Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
[ThinkProgress, 03/5/2010]

81. The landscaping company Mitt Romney used to tend his mansion for 10 years employed illegal immigrants.
[ThinkProgress, 04/26/2011]

82. Mitt Romney criticized Rick Perry for providing government benefits to undocumented immigrants, but Romneycare provided free health care to undocumented immigrants.
[Los Angelus Times, 10/23/2011]

Politics

83. As of October 2011, Mitt Romney has raised more than five times as much money from Wall St. employees as Obama, raising $1.5 million.
[ThinkProgress, 10/16/2011]

84. A leaked strategic document from Mitt Romney's 2007 campaign lists "perfect hair" among the candidate's flaws.
[The Boston Globe, 02/27/2007]

85. Mitt Romney said he finds "it hard to disagree with Rush Limbaugh on topics."
[ThinkProgress, 03/9/2010]

86. Mitt Romney in 2004: "From now on, it's me me me."
[The Boston Globe, 06/30/2007]

87. Whenever the Massachussets House challenged Mitt Romney, they overrode his vetoes 99.6 percent of the time.
[The Boston Globe, 06/30/2007]

88. Mitt Romney in 2008: I "love" George W. Bush.
[ThinkProgress, 01/3/2008]

89. Mitt Romney refused to pardon an Iraq war veteran's BB-gun conviction but called Bush's commutation of Scooter Libby's prison sentence "reasonable."
[ThinkProgress, 07/4/2007]

90. Tea Party billionaire David Koch hosted one of Mitt Romney's first fundraisers for his 2012 campaign.
[ThinkProgress, 03/15/2011]

91. Mitt Romney considers himself "in sync" with the Tea Party.
[Reuters, 08/18/2011]

Other

92. Mitt Romney's beach house has a "nonliving area" that is twice the size of the average American home.
[ThinkProgress, 08/29/2011]

93. Mitt Romney plans to bulldoze his 3,000-square-foot $12 million home in California to replace it with one four times its size. Romney also owns a $10 million estate in New Hampshire.
[ThinkProgress, 08/21/2011]

94. Mitt Romney feels Americans' pain because he's "also unemployed." Romney was worth $250 million in 2008.
[ThinkProgress, 06/16/2011]

95. Mitt Romney's Olympics office refused to give free or discounted tickets to family of firefighters who died in 9/11, though it provided tickets to Utah legislators.
[The Boston Globe, 06/28/2007]

96. Mitt Romney made millions investing in companies that did business in Iran.
[CNN Money, 07/12/2007]

97. Mitt Romney falsely claimed he saw his father march with MLK Jr.
[The Boston Phoenix, 12/21/2007]

98. In 2007, Mitt Romney briefly declared his favorite book was Scientology classic Battlefield Earth, though he quickly changed it to Mark Twain's Hucklebery Finn.
[ThinkProgress, 07/5/2011]

99. Mitt Romney won't release his tax returns.

7/28/2012 11:46:18 AM

Well, you win the longest list of bullshit award.
No minds will be changed here. Hate him all you want. He will be a far better Pres than the current lyin criminal.

7/29/2012 11:55:35 PM

^^ read them all.

a few are silly (in 98 he said so and so, but in 2008, he said the contrary; also, illegals working in the company that tended his lawns... how the hell is he supposed to know that?). however, many of them are quite damning.

7/30/2012 12:18:30 AM

Quote :

" Mitt Romney's advice on the foreclosure crisis: "Don't try and stop the foreclosure process.""

I didn't read all those damn words, but that one isn't damning romney. The government isn't here to protect people from themselves and taking out mortgages/loans they shouldn't.

7/30/2012 8:00:01 AM

Quote :

"Well, you win the longest list of bullshit award. No minds will be changed here. Hate him all you want. He will be a far better Pres than the current lyin criminal."

Another ignorant racist. Why is Obama such a bad president? Other than the fact that is skin is different from all the past presidents?

7/30/2012 8:12:01 AM

ThinkProgress

so credible

7/30/2012 8:43:48 AM

^^^ Agreed. While there's cases out there of the banks being dickheads to homeowners and wrongfully foreclosing, that's not what's happening the majority of the time.

7/30/2012 9:02:22 AM

DUMBASS

7/30/2012 11:27:31 AM

That list is quite ridiculous. My reaction to most of those is "so?" or "yeah, he's a Republican, that makes sense that he would align with those ideologies..."

Why in the flying fuck does it matter what his favorite novel is?

7/30/2012 11:35:55 AM

dumb list is dumb.

especially the ones about him changing his opinion. now, I don't know if he actually did, or was just pandering, but what's wrong with changing your opinion? everyone does as they become more educated and experienced.

I've changed my opinion on several political issues... does that mean I'd be a bad politician?

[Edited on July 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM. Reason : .]

7/30/2012 11:40:26 AM

Nobody in Romney's family is in the 99%.
OBAMA 2012

7/30/2012 11:43:53 AM

7/31/2012 12:09:12 PM

Why is a "Presidential Candidate" overseas campaigning ?

7/31/2012 12:23:17 PM

7/31/2012 1:50:29 PM

^lullz

^^ Both of them have gone overseas while campaigning.

So, if you think Obama lies you're now automatically a racist? WTF is wrong with you? Are you so blinded as to think a black president could not lie?

Something you should read.

7/31/2012 1:53:31 PM

white people dont realize something niggas have known since they sold niggas to white men:

NAS: Niggas Aint Shit.

[Edited on July 31, 2012 at 2:08 PM. Reason : d]

7/31/2012 2:07:57 PM

LOL everything pyderi has posted in this thread is such meaningless bullshit. Give me some actual reason to vote for your asshole in the White House instead of weak reasons to not vote for Romney.

7/31/2012 5:26:10 PM

Obama made bin Laden a priority and had him taken out.

Quote :

"C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden Published: July 4, 2006 WASHINGTON, July 3 — The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday."

[Edited on July 31, 2012 at 5:30 PM. Reason : ...]

7/31/2012 5:29:01 PM

Quote :

"Obama made bin Laden a priority and had him taken out."

He didn't build that!
CIA and military found him.
The Navy SEALS took him out.

UBL was everyone's priority.

7/31/2012 5:58:11 PM

Quote :

"He didn't build that! CIA and military found him. The Navy SEALS took him out. UBL was everyone's priority."

Quote :

"C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden Published: July 4, 2006 WASHINGTON, July 3 — The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday."

7/31/2012 5:59:29 PM

Yeah, an old article from an unnamed source. Thats real credibility right there.
And the CIA is known for its openness.
Closed a unit.... open another or had a few others already open.
You really think the CIA stopped looking for him?

7/31/2012 6:05:36 PM

Oh hey, here's pryderi vomiting his worthless opinion into another thread

7/31/2012 6:07:49 PM

Oh, whoops, I missed Eaton Bush's ignorant ass contributions. Oh boy, this is more enlightening than an argument about titty tanning between cast members of Jersey Shore

7/31/2012 6:10:15 PM

I see you brought a lot to the table

7/31/2012 6:14:52 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

7/31/2012 6:27:29 PM

Ah there ya go.
They closed a unit. They didn't close all units.

Quote :

"Agency officials said that tracking Mr. bin Laden and his deputies remained a high priority, and that the decision to disband the unit was not a sign that the effort had slackened. "

Quote :

""There are still people who wake up every day with the job of trying to find bin Laden.""

In addition to the CIA, the US military and every other US 3 letter agency you can think of was looking UBL.

In any case the dude is dead and Obama was able to waltz in and take the credit for the work of not only the Navy SEAL but thousands of others got them there.

Any person sitting as president would have made the same call.

[Edited on July 31, 2012 at 6:40 PM. Reason : ]

7/31/2012 6:39:29 PM

Quote :

""it's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person." "

- Willard Romney

7/31/2012 6:57:01 PM

Quote :

""If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is one of the Republican front-runners, said U.S. troops "shouldn't be sent all over the world." He called Obama's comments "ill-timed" and "ill-considered.""

http://in.reuters.com/article/2007/08/04/idINIndia-28811520070804

Eaton Dick

7/31/2012 7:02:10 PM

And they are both right.
But we did move heavan and earth and spend billions

What is also interesting is with Obama as President we now have:
- More war, not less. We are still in Afg and we went in to Libya and now we are poising for war with Syria, Iran and someone in SE Asia.
- We have alienated our allies and embraced our enemies.
- Guantanamo is still open and is bigger, not smaller
- The gov't has less transparency, not more
- Fuel prices have "necessarily skyrocketed"... oh, wait, he kept that promise.

7/31/2012 7:37:58 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

7/31/2012 11:41:31 PM

Yeah, we all know the tax systems sucks.
He didn't build the tax system.

Because Romney has been a very successful businessman he is able to largely live of the money he already made and was taxed on. None of the money he has earned in the past 2 years came from wages. Instead, the Romneys earn their money from capital gains from a profusion of investments, as well as stock dividends and interest payments.

-Romney gave away $7 million in charitable contributions over the past two years.
-Romney paid an estimated $6.2 million in federal income taxes. According to his 2010 return, Romney paid about $3 million to the IRS.

That is a lot of money. If you made as much money as Romney I bet you'd look for as many ways as you can to keep what you made. Especially when you can see how the gov't waste money. The return on investment sux.

Has Obama ever paid that much in taxes?
Has Obama ever given that much to charity?

8/1/2012 7:00:44 AM

you understand you are debating a occupy supporter with a medical marijuana card.

8/1/2012 7:03:48 AM

From candidate Obama's European trip from 4 years ago:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/26/obama-trip-gaffe-free/?page=1&feat=article_related_stories

Quote :

"Obama trip gaffeless, picture-perfect LONDON | David Axelrod could not have scripted a better week for his candidate "

8/1/2012 7:17:42 AM

^ How is any of that relevant to this election year?

Quote :

"you understand you are debating a occupy supporter with a medical marijuana card."

I like Pryderi. He actually puts effort and thought behind what he says.
Any douche bag can post shit like:

Quote :

"Oh hey, here's pryderi vomiting his worthless opinion into another thread Oh, whoops, I missed Eaton Bush's ignorant ass contributions. Oh boy, this is more enlightening than an argument about titty tanning between cast members of Jersey Shore"

Although I disagree with Pryderi most of the time. There is no smoking gun that he is going to reveal that will make me vote for Obama and I will vote for the best alternative to Obama. That alternative is Romney.

Besides, he posts some awesome Tits and ass pics. Gotta like that!!



[Edited on August 1, 2012 at 7:41 AM. Reason : ]

8/1/2012 7:36:57 AM

Quote :

"- More war, not less. We are still in Afg and we went in to Libya and now we are poising for war with Syria, Iran and someone in SE Asia."

We have an exit date for Afghanistan, and our actions in Libya was to protect civilians and was supported by the UN

Quote :

"Libya: UN backs action against Colonel Gaddafi The UN Security Council has backed a no-fly zone over Libya and "all necessary measures" to protect civilians short of an occupation."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12781009

Can you provide some evidence of countries we're "posing for war" with?

Quote :

"- We have alienated our allies and embraced our enemies."

Examples?

Quote :

"- Guantanamo is still open and is bigger, not smaller"

Congress won't let President Obama close Gitmo.

Quote :

"Congress has used its spending oversight authority both to forbid the White House from financing trials of Guantánamo captives on U.S. soil and to block the acquisition of a state prison in Illinois to hold captives currently held in Cuba who would not be put on trial -- a sort of Guantánamo North. The current defense bill now before Congress not only reinforces these restrictions but moves to mandate military detention for most future al Qaeda cases unless the president signs a waiver. The White House withdrew a veto threat on the eve of likely passage Wednesday, saying the latest language gives the executive enough wiggle room to avoid military custody."

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/136781/carol-rosenberg/why-obama-cant-close-guantanamo

Also, Guantanamo has fewer detainees now than when President Obama took office:

Quote :

"242 detainees at Gitmo when Obama took office 171 detainees still held at Guantánamo Bay"

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/01/11/402586/ten-years-at-guantanamo-bay-by-the-numbers/

Quote :

"- The gov't has less transparency, not more"

Less than under Bush??

[Edited on August 1, 2012 at 8:02 AM. Reason : ....]

8/1/2012 8:00:55 AM

lol, someone named Eaton Bush is getting all butt hurt and serious in a chit chat thread and I'm supposed to get offended because he doesn't like my trolling?

Sell it in the soap box, faggot

8/1/2012 8:03:57 AM

Quote :

"someone named Mulva is already butt hurt because he is a faggot"

8/1/2012 8:10:53 AM

Alright, now this is what chit chat is all about. Now if we could just get pryderi to take Romney's balls out of his mouth and say something entertaining for once in his posting career this thread would have a prayer

8/1/2012 8:13:51 AM

Quote :

"someone named Romney is already butt hurt because he is a faggot"

8/1/2012 8:21:05 AM

I can only imagine how elitist President Obama would be portrayed by the media if he had dancing dressage horse named "Rafalca" and wrote off $77,000 from his taxes for owning it.

Anyone remember the shit Kerry took for this?

8/1/2012 12:42:33 PM

what a crime

[Edited on August 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM. Reason : if it were obama they wouldnt say shit]

8/1/2012 12:47:46 PM