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8/24/2012 3:47:59 PM

I still have no idea how people can see gun violence statistics comparing the US to every other country in the modern world and say "nope, nothing at all"

and in no way is that me advocating a ban on guns. I just think it's (beyond) time to step back and assess the problem

8/24/2012 3:52:59 PM

because Switzerland.

8/24/2012 3:56:26 PM

Quote :

"I trust anyone with a CCW to carry said weapon... "

lol

8/24/2012 3:57:08 PM

^^^ I agree. And I don't know the answer. Look at most of Europe (yes, even Switzerland) and at least have a dialogue. The only answer I know isn't correct is, "this."

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM. Reason : X]

8/24/2012 3:57:19 PM

lol i'm done.


[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .]

8/24/2012 3:58:46 PM

If we want to get rid of drug addiction and the families it breaks up and the people who die from overdosing, we need to make all drugs illegal

8/24/2012 3:59:05 PM

^ lol.

8/24/2012 3:59:50 PM

Quote :

"because Switzerland."

explain

^^ wasn't aware that drugs were capable of firing projectiles at an insane amount of speed towards multiple targets at the same time

must have missed that day of class

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM. Reason : forgive me]

8/24/2012 4:00:03 PM

If we do a bad job of fixing one problem, we definitely should not try to fix any more problems.

8/24/2012 4:00:13 PM

using the same method that miserably failed on the first problem

8/24/2012 4:01:01 PM

^^^

Quote :

". Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a peoples Militia to defend their country. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. Due to this fact, the personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations. "

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

8/24/2012 4:01:07 PM

Compare this map of gun ownership

http://www.edutube.org/interactive/guns-100-residents

To this map of homicide rates



Homicide rate has more to do with organized crime and drug trafficking than gun ownership.

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ]

8/24/2012 4:02:05 PM

Not only that, they're all issued a weapon which they keep at home for a very long time while they're not in active duty.

^ Look at Canada, sitting up there all smug.

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : *]

8/24/2012 4:02:44 PM

No one is saying guns should be illegal and guns are not illegal in NYC.

Also drugs should be legal but regulated.

Letting people have guns or drugs whenever they want is a bad idea!

8/24/2012 4:02:49 PM

Quote :

"wasn't aware that drugs were capable of firing projectiles at an insane amount of speed towards multiple targets at the same time"

were you aware that (most) drugs are illegal, yet people still manage to get their hands on them?

8/24/2012 4:05:49 PM

Re: Switzerland -- how do they rate against countries with extreme gun laws like Australia in terms of gun violence? What are the rates of other violent crime and how did the laws effect them.

What can we learn from each, if any?

IMO its not gun control or lack thereof but rather a deep cultural influence that no one fully grasps.

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM. Reason : D]

8/24/2012 4:09:02 PM

^ exactly

although I do disagree by thinking that it is somewhat of a gun control issue

[Edited on August 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM. Reason : but I guess that since we can't talk about it we'll never know]

8/24/2012 4:10:45 PM

So a guy shoots someone three times, and then the cops shoot him plus 9 bystanders. And everyone here is talking about gun control instead of the real issue, which is that it's OK that the COPS SHOT NINE INNOCENT PEOPLE.

8/24/2012 4:11:14 PM

There were probably additional methods that failed the drug problem, though, other than making them illegal.

8/24/2012 4:11:16 PM

Quote :

"have an AWP (assault weapons permit) that requires additional classes and background checks for any weapon with a capacity over 10 rounds. Keep track of these people and check in on them after a trauma or a recent purchase of a significant amount of weapons or ammo. "

Wow....

This is one of the stupidest ideas I have heard of. What the fuck are additional classes going to do? Why the fuck does capacity over 10 rounds matter? Because of one shooting where the guy used a shitty 100 round mag that jammed? Do I really have to go look up the statistics on how most gun related crimes are committed with low capacity firearms?

Keep track and check in on these people? Who is going to do that what would that solve? Should we introduce a gun tax while we are at it to pay for this new service?

"Ummm sir, are you going to go on a mass shooting spree anytime soon? We saw that you lost your job and just wanted to double check."

and check in on them if they have recently purchased a lot of firearms/ammo? Because so many crimes are committed with the bad guy using 10 firearms and going through 10,000 rounds of ammo. Now I can see why you cannot decide on a semi-auto .308, your decision making skills are terrible.

8/24/2012 4:15:56 PM

cops shooting innocent people is cool with me. I mean if cops can't go onto private property and shoot homeowners before asking questions, then what good are they?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/jennifer-orey-shot-by-deputy-_n_1819271.html

8/24/2012 4:18:04 PM

the trained law enforcement officers of the NYPD only hit 9 innocent people with gunfire...despite the subject being what, 10 or 15 feet away?

dont worry guys, the cops are well trained in handling firearms, you'll be safe

a citizen with a concealed permit would probably have some regard for innocent bystanders since they wouldnt get paid vacation if they hit someone like the cops do

8/24/2012 11:32:15 PM

Quote :

"So a guy shoots someone three times, and then the cops shoot him plus 9 bystanders. And everyone here is talking about gun control instead of the real issue, which is that it's OK that the COPS SHOT NINE INNOCENT PEOPLE."

THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES, THIS!!!

8/24/2012 11:50:05 PM

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE COPS SHOULDNT HAVE GUNS RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

8/25/2012 2:40:33 AM

No they should have guns, but only if they are able to shoot the person they're aiming at, and not NINE completely different people.

8/25/2012 3:37:25 PM