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"In this path to slavery, why is it bad to use RFID? Is using a badge to check attendance somehow different than using teacher's attendance rolls? Why? "

RFID can track you anywhere you go in the school.
You need RFID to buy lunch, check out a library book, etc..
It's not just used for attendance.

11/29/2012 12:24:20 PM

None of those things are sinister at all. It just integrates all of those functions into a single device. How terrible.

11/29/2012 12:29:32 PM

Let me update then and try to make it more semantically precise:

In this path to slavery, why is it bad to use RFID? Is it bad or sinister to use a badge to check attendance instead of teachers rolls, or track students instead of using hall monitors and roving principals, or use a badge instead of carrying cash for lunch, or use a badge to check out a library book instead of a library card? Why?

A lot of these things are already done with a card with magnetic strip in many places, why is RFID scary? You mention a library book, how is an RFID badge to check out a library book any different than a card with a magnetic stripe or bar code? Seriously, why is this scary?

11/29/2012 12:36:35 PM

I feel like I'm repeating myself.

You're traveling down the path to slavery.
traveling being the keyword.

11/29/2012 12:57:52 PM

Why is traveling on RFID different from traveling on a magnetic stripe or paper roll?

11/29/2012 12:59:43 PM

Are you against compulsory schooling or not?

11/29/2012 1:00:29 PM

Also, have you ever been diagnosed with a learning disability? Serious question.

11/29/2012 1:00:58 PM

Let's talk about freedom. What is it?

11/29/2012 1:04:27 PM

It's a word that means different things to different people and that's why you can easily spot bullshit when a person starts talking about it like it's a universal value we all stand behind.

Now answer the very, very simple questions:

1. For a given function or set of a functions, is using an RFID tag any worse than using badges or cards?

2. Are you against compulsory schooling for children?

11/29/2012 1:07:52 PM

Ahaha yes, I too remember that funny pop culture thing from two years ago.

11/29/2012 1:08:51 PM

Do you hate freedom? why do you hate freedom so much?
You think freedom is wrong!

11/29/2012 1:10:57 PM

How can freedom be a non-universal idea when you don't get to choose what society you're born into?

Everyone gets to come into this world and evaluate whether the freedom they've been given is really just or not. It seems like true freedom would be the ability to reject what they've been given and pursue their own idea of what freedom should be.

11/29/2012 1:14:21 PM

We are very patiently trying to have an actual discussion about something with you, why do you keep posting troll responses or trying to change the subject?

Do you not understand the question, do you not have an answer, or do you just not want to discuss it. If you have no interest in discussing the topic, then why are you posting about it?

Why is using an RFID badge different from using a regular badge, a name tag, a magnetic stripe badge, a barcode badge, etc...?

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"Now answer the very, very simple questions: 1. For a given function or set of a functions, is using an RFID tag any worse than using badges or cards? 2. Are you against compulsory schooling for children? "

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM. Reason : these are not loaded questions]

11/29/2012 1:17:08 PM

I'm not posting troll responses, I'm asking the same questions. How come you're not answering my questions?

11/29/2012 1:17:58 PM

A)Stay classy geniusxboy, trolling in your own thread.
B)

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"How can freedom be a non-universal idea"

Did you mean 'universal'?

11/29/2012 1:18:18 PM

What's the difference between 99 cents and $1.00?

Anyone?

11/29/2012 1:19:57 PM

Freedom?

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 1:28 PM. Reason : or magnets? I'm not sure.]

11/29/2012 1:27:38 PM

^^^ that is what I meant.

How can freedom be something that everyone defines individually when our social contract is enforced upon people without their consent?

11/29/2012 1:30:09 PM

Mrfrog, you're giving me hope for the world. I love questions like the ones you pose
Ask more! Seriously

11/29/2012 1:34:30 PM

freedom freedom freedom

11/29/2012 1:35:27 PM

Don't say it if you don't know what it is, dtownral.

11/29/2012 1:37:01 PM

This is freedom, please embed:
http://youtu.be/tf1B9ktRCkg

11/29/2012 1:38:06 PM

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"How can freedom be something that everyone defines individually when our social contract is enforced upon people without their consent?"

Because some people don't feel that being "enforced upon a social contract without my consent" really limits my freedom. Clearly you and I are operating on two different definitions of the word.

I didn't choose to be born a male but my "freedom" isn't inhibited by this fact in any meaningful way. I mean, in the utmost extreme, I'm limited by my inability to exist in an oxygen and nitrogen rich atmosphere and have very little "freedom" to explore the cosmos.

11/29/2012 1:40:15 PM

Private property is a Social Contract, fyi, and plenty of people who don't agree to it get the gun pointed at them for trespassing anyway.

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"How can freedom be something that everyone defines individually when our social contract is enforced upon people without their consent?"

Lmao you think this is profound, don't you?

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 1:44:48 PM

How can traveling wherever I want be part of my individual definition of freedom... when I'm too poor to afford a plane ticket? IT MAKES NO SENSE

GENIUSXBOY ARE YOU AGAINST COMPULSORY EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN?

DOES SOMETHING ABOUT RFID MAKE IT WORSE THAN BADGERS OR CARDS?

[Edited on November 29, 2012 at 1:48 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2012 1:46:54 PM

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"GENIUSXBOY ARE YOU AGAINST COMPULSORY EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN? DOES SOMETHING ABOUT RFID MAKE IT WORSE THAN BADGERS OR CARDS?"

hay look

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"Do you hate freedom? why do you hate freedom so much? You think freedom is wrong! "

11/29/2012 1:50:38 PM

Dude, just answer them outright, why is it so fucking hard to just express yourself frankly?

11/29/2012 1:53:20 PM

We get it. You are literally too dumb to formulate an argument or defend your ideas.

11/29/2012 1:53:26 PM

Aw Josh spoiler that shit

11/29/2012 1:53:52 PM

What am I defending?

Serious.

You should be defending yourself against forcing people to do things they don't want to do.
You should be defending yourself against forcing people to do things they are already doing.

If I have to defend freedom, then you should be ashamed to call yourself an American.
You literally make my stomach churn by justifying your own slavery.

11/29/2012 2:00:28 PM

jesus christ, this thread is so fucking stupid. i mean, what the fuck are you^ talking about?

11/29/2012 2:03:30 PM

Jesus Christ.

Just reading this shit is exhausting. Couldn't imagine living it.

11/29/2012 2:04:15 PM

Nothing. It's over all of your heads.


War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

11/29/2012 2:04:25 PM

again, wtf are you talking about? (and don't flatter yourself)

11/29/2012 2:19:10 PM

Freedom.

11/29/2012 2:35:47 PM

Alright well let the record show that GeniusXBoy is against compulsory schooling for children but he wont admit it for an unknown reason.

11/29/2012 2:39:28 PM

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"What am I defending?"

Your argument that RFID cards are bad

11/29/2012 4:11:36 PM

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"Alright well let the record show that GeniusXBoy is against compulsory schooling for children but he wont admit it for an unknown reason"

Compulsory schooling for children implemented by the government is completely wrong. Education is a personal decision. Children are too young, impressionable, and inexperienced to make responsible decisions for themselves, so the responsibility of enforcing compulsory school rests upon the parents of the child. If the parents decides his/her child doesn't belong in school, that's their freedom. Forcing parents to put their kids in school is straight authoritarian and has no place in a country founded on the principles of freedom.

Are there going to be deadbeat parents? Yes.
You will never eliminate that problem unless you take away all their freedoms, which coincidentally are the same freedoms you enjoy.

American have this love for banning other people's liberties away from them, citing irresponsibility. However, when someone comes knocking on their own door, they cry, kick, and scream about how unfair it is.

11/29/2012 6:07:29 PM

Why should the parent get to decide? That infringes on their...

FREEDOM!

11/29/2012 6:09:40 PM

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"Children are too young, impressionable, and inexperienced to make responsible decisions for themselves, so the responsibility of enforcing compulsory school rests upon the parents of the child."

11/29/2012 6:12:44 PM

Why the parent?

11/29/2012 6:15:08 PM

That's what parents do. They are the protector and guardian of their offspring.

11/29/2012 6:27:14 PM

What if the parents are drug addicts, or what if the child has no parents?

11/29/2012 7:43:11 PM

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"What if the parents are drug addicts"

I was unaware drug addicts couldn't be good parents.

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"What if the parents are drug addicts, or what if the child has no parents?"

Next of Kin or Adoption.

If the government ends up becoming their permanent or temporary guardian, then the government gets to make the decisions for the child until he/she turns 18.

11/29/2012 8:42:12 PM

A government appointed guardian...

OR A GOVERNMENT OVERSEER?!

11/29/2012 8:45:41 PM

You must hate freedom!

11/29/2012 10:03:02 PM

Hey, these are my political commissars er.... I mean adoptive parents.

11/30/2012 10:30:34 AM

I thought it was pretty well established that children have no civil liberties while at school.

11/30/2012 11:11:52 AM

So dtownral has problems figuring out differences. His Achilles heel has been found.

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"I thought it was pretty well established that children have no civil liberties while at school."

You're happy about this? You condone this? You're appeased by it?
"Hey guys, it's well established that we are slaves, lets not discuss it and continue our ways"

11/30/2012 11:11:58 AM

I'm not a child so I don't care.

Same with drinking age.

It doesn't much matter what I think, since my opinion doesn't matter.

I suppose I'd feel the same way if slavery were legal as long as I wasn't a slave.

Of course, I would also understand if a slave wanted to kill his master, or if students wanted to shoot up their oppressive schools.

11/30/2012 11:23:57 AM