9/26/2012 7:09:46 PM

The polls could lull people into a sense of security, there is a feedback there i'm sure.

But if the polls were where they are now on the day of the election, but Romney won, mathematically that would represent a significant anomaly worth looking into (he still has a ~20% chance of winning which isn't trivial either).

9/26/2012 7:12:22 PM

Do we still have all of the sketchy companies and middle-men servers inserted into electronic voting or has that been fixed yet?

9/26/2012 7:49:06 PM

Quote :

"Last week, when a secretly made tape surfaced in which Mitt Romney appeared to tell donors at a $50,000-a-plate dinner in May that nearly half of all Americans were essentially unmotivated slackers angling to live off government handouts, the bartender turned on the lights. As many leading Republicans -- Bill Kristol and Peggy Noonan among them -- have fretted, the damage that Romney inflicted on himself was all the more egregious because it not only turned on the unflattering lights, it focused every watt of them on what many Democrats, some Republicans and a growing number of independents secretly suspected about him, but tried to suppress. Go ahead. Give it the most charitable interpretation. "

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/09/25/seamus-mcgraw-mitt-romney-gaffes-are-needlessly-weakening-him-against-obama/

Has the greater Republican base already given up on Romney? sure seems that way... Obama's supporters might not be as motivated as in 2008, but it looks like Romney's folks might even be more disheartened.

9/27/2012 12:49:22 AM

It begins...

Quote :

"Lori Monroe, a 40-year-old Democrat who lives in central Ohio, was startled a few weeks ago to open a letter that said a stranger was challenging her right to vote in the presidential election. Monroe, who was recovering from cancer surgery, called the local election board to protest. A local tea party leader was trying to strike Monroe from the voter rolls for a reason that made no sense: Her apartment building in Lancaster was listed as a commercial property."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ohio-voting-fight-20120927,0,811761.story

9/27/2012 2:44:09 AM

Ohio isn't the only place:

Quote :

"The Republican Party of Florida’s top recipient of 2012 expenditures, a firm by the name of Strategic Allied Consulting, was just fired on Tuesday night, after more than 100 apparently fraudulent voter registration forms were discovered to have been turned in by the group to the Palm Beach County, FL Supervisor of Elections. The firm appears to be another shell company of Nathan Sproul, a longtime, notorious Republican operative, hired year after year by GOP Presidential campaigns, despite being accused of shredding Democratic voter registration forms in a number of states over several past elections. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Strategic Allied Consulting has been paid some $667,000 this year by the Florida GOP, presumably to run its voter registration campaigns in the state. That number, however, does not account for another identical payment made in August. The Palm Beach Post is reporting tonight that the firm received “more than $1.3 million” from the Republican Party of Florida “to register new voters.” [...] Palm Beach County Supervisor of Election Susan Bucher confirmed to The BRAD BLOG late this evening that she turned over 106 suspicious voter registration applications to the Florida State Attorney during a meeting yesterday afternoon in Palm Beach, after the “questionable” applications were submitted to her office by a worker for Strategic Allied. The forms were said to all have similar signatures, changed addresses and party affiliations, and other defects which appear to have all been done by the same hand. The case emerging in Florida tonight mirrors a similar incident reported earlier this year in which more than a thousand fraudulent voter registration forms were discovered to have been turned in to the Sacramento County, CA Registrar of Voters by a group hired by that state’s Republican Party. [...] The Post reports that “The 106 applications flagged by Bucher were part of a batch of 304 turned in Sept. 5 by the contractor, using the Republican Party of Florida’s identification number.” As of tonight, the Republican Party of Florida (RPOF) says they have fired the firm, which they claim they had hired at the request of the Republican National Party. “When we learned today about the instances of potential voter registration fraud that occurred in Palm Beach County,” RPOF Director Mike Grissom said, “we immediately informed the Republican National Committee that we were terminating the contract with the voter registration vendor we hired at their request because there is no place for voter registration fraud in Florida.”"

Some other things Nathan Sproul has been involved in:

Quote :

"- In Oregon and Nevada, Lincoln Strategies – then known as Sproul and Associates - was investigated for destroying Democratic voter registration forms. The Bush-Cheney 2004 presidential campaign paid Sproul $7.4 million for campaign work. [CNN, 10/14/04; KGW News, 10/13/04; East Valley Tribune, 09/07/06] - In Nevada, people who registered as Democrats with Lincoln Strategies – then known as Sproul and Associates – found their names absent from the voter registration rolls. [Reno Gazette-Journal, 10/29/04] - During the 2006 midterm elections, Wal-Mart banned Lincoln Strategies for partisan voter registration efforts in Tennessee. The Republican National Committee had hired the firm. [Associated Press, 08/24/06] - In Arizona, Lincoln Strategies employed a variety of deceptive tactics – including systematically lying about the bill – to push a ballot initiative to eviscerate the state’s clean elections law. [Salon,10/21/04] - Lincoln Strategies, then employed by the Republican Party, was behind efforts to place Ralph Nader on the ballot in states such as Arizona. [The American Prospect, 06/25/04]"

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/26/fla_voter_fraud_charge_has_ties_to_romney/

9/27/2012 3:10:43 AM

Wow

This asshole sounds like a real piece of work.

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/romney-nathan-sproul/
https://twitter.com/NathanSproul

9/27/2012 9:26:45 AM

Who knew being that dishonest could make you a multi millionaire...

9/27/2012 11:31:39 AM

Wow, how is that legal?

9/27/2012 12:16:17 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/story/11555751/

Quote :

"Perry, who has been registered to vote in North Carolina since at least 1975, according to election records, was dismayed to receive a letter this month from the Wake County Board of Elections suggesting she may no longer be qualified to vote because she might be dead. "My initial reaction? I was mad as hell," Perry said Monday morning. ..."I'm a senior, and I'm an African-American," she said. "And I'm not registered as the same party they are most likely.""

http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/blogpost/11454426/

Quote :

"It’s not every day that a Wake County Elections Board hearing is the setting for a temper tantrum. ...“Many of them did feel questioned,” she added. “’How come? Why was I asked to do this?’ So I did have to apologize to them, because they did everything right. They were citizens, they were naturalized, and yet I still had to write to them and say, ‘Your voter registration is being challenged.’” "

[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM. Reason : a registered conservative business is challenging legitimate voters in NC]

9/27/2012 12:48:14 PM

Whoah, can shit like this actually swing an election?

9/27/2012 12:54:53 PM

Would they being doing it if it couldn't?

9/27/2012 1:01:11 PM

somebody needs to calm me down. Is this gonna work and ppl show up to vote and then can't do it?

9/27/2012 1:10:06 PM

Anything that reduces overall turnout is good for the GOP, that should tell you something in itself.

9/27/2012 1:15:06 PM

Quote :

"Whoah, can shit like this actually swing an election?"

Probably not this year.

But it seems to have played a pretty big role in 2000:

Quote :

"Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, contracted with a new company (DBT Online Inc.), at an increase of $4.294 million to have the "scrub list"'s re-worked. Nearly 1% of Florida's electorate and nearly 3% of its African-American voters - 96,000 citizens were listed as felons and removed from the voting rolls. (For instance, many had names similar to actual felons, some listed "felonies" were dated years in the future, and some apparently were random.) In a vast minority of cases, those on the scrub list were given several months to appeal, and some successfully reregistered and were allowed to vote. However, most were not told that they weren't allowed to vote until they were turned away at the polls. The company was directed not to use cross-checks or its sophisticated verification plan (used by the FBI).[18]"

Presidential candidate Vote total % Party
George W. Bush (W) 2,912,790 48.847 Republican
Al Gore 2,912,253 48.838 Democratic

9/27/2012 1:35:14 PM

Listen to this asshole:

http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/video/11454414/

[Edited on September 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ]

9/27/2012 1:45:43 PM

classic scare tactics

9/27/2012 2:05:23 PM

And then comes intimidation at the polls, that same NC business that several ppl have referenced (also in the video synapse posted) has also talked about trying to have its own poll watchers at many polls to challenge voters they don't think should be voting. With such a fantastic record so far, I'm sure that will go over well.

I'm a confident voter, I'll spend half an hour at the voting site arguing until I get to vote even if challenged. I don't think that applies to everyone though, especially people who don't vote as often, or are voting during a time limited lunch break or on the way to or home from work.

9/27/2012 2:12:23 PM

That's also why election day isn't a national holiday

9/27/2012 2:31:13 PM

I watched for 3 minutes then got bored. What is wrong with what Jay is saying?

9/27/2012 2:57:23 PM

Jump ahead to about 4:42

9/27/2012 3:07:32 PM

No expenditure of taxpayer money is too much when the cause is stopping minorities from voting!

9/27/2012 3:09:43 PM

unless, of course, it comes to shutting down DMVs in minority neighborhoods. In that event....budget cuts, yo.

9/27/2012 4:23:57 PM

Why I Refuse to Vote for Barack Obama

Quote :

"Sometimes a policy is so reckless or immoral that supporting its backer as "the lesser of two evils" is unacceptable. If enough people start refusing to support any candidate who needlessly terrorizes innocents, perpetrates radical assaults on civil liberties, goes to war without Congress, or persecutes whistleblowers, among other misdeeds, post-9/11 excesses will be reined in."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/why-i-refuse-to-vote-for-barack-obama/262861/

9/27/2012 8:25:49 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/27/study-obamas-plan-would-create-more-jobs-than-romneys/

Quote :

"U.S. revises hiring numbers: 453,000 more jobs added in third year of recovery"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-revises-hiring-numbers-businesses-added-453k-more-jobs-in-third-year-of-recovery/2012/09/27/d2c7e29a-08bf-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop

9/27/2012 9:20:28 PM

From Moron's link:

Quote :

"The names selected for purging include hundreds of college students, trailer park residents, homeless people and African Americans in counties President Obama won in 2008."

Quote :

"In Ohio, election records show, one of the project's top priorities has been to remove college students from the voter rolls"

Quote :

"Voters challenged include 284 students at the Ohio State University campus in Columbus, 110 at Oberlin College, 88 at College of Wooster, 38 at Kent State — and dozens more from the University of Cincinnati, Miami University, Lake Erie College, Walsh University, Hiram College, John Carroll University and Telshe Yeshiva, a rabbinical college near Cleveland."

[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 12:35 AM. Reason : .]

9/28/2012 12:34:33 AM

Proof that maybe, just maybe, Americans aren't so dumb after all?

9/28/2012 6:30:22 PM

you can't say that, or you are gonna piss yowilly off

[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 7:56 PM. Reason : mad edits]

9/28/2012 7:55:01 PM

So voting for Obama means you are intelligent?

[Edited on September 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM. Reason : hur de derpity dur]

9/28/2012 11:13:08 PM

Quote :

"While speaking at this past weekend’s Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C., former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum told the crowd they would never have smart people siding with them politically. “We will never have the elite, smart people on our side,” he said, “because they believe they should have the power to tell you what to do. So our colleges and universities, they’re not going to be on our side.”"

9/28/2012 11:15:00 PM

^^^What?

Shrike being condescending and pasting charts?

Not really a big deal TBH.

9/28/2012 11:29:45 PM

I don't know the rules, so I am going to ask here. If a person or group is doing a voter registration drive, is it allowed to have materials, shirts, and signs supporting a candidate? Looking up what rules I could find for NC, it seems you can't coerce, but does that include referencing any candidate?

9/30/2012 10:44:04 PM

I wish that disclosing affiliation was required during registration drives or door to door stuff

9/30/2012 10:54:33 PM

TSB is pretty dead when there's not a real contest going it seems...

10/1/2012 1:43:44 AM

If you listen to 106.1 or go to theblaze.com all these polls are bullshit and the contest is very much on/close

10/1/2012 10:14:10 AM

This Republican trend of "Science is wrong if I don't like the conclusions" extending into everything is really annoying.

10/1/2012 10:20:38 AM

Except of course the vast array of technology they use to broadcast this message. Or the medicine that has extended their life to spew their idiocy even longer.

10/1/2012 10:32:38 AM

I went and registered to vote yesterday in Texas. It was extremely simple and easy. No ID or proof of residence required.

But, they said that in the battleground states this process is a huge headache and is like going to the DMV with the amount of paperwork required.

10/1/2012 11:36:29 AM

There's no "is like going to the DMV" about it in voter ID states...

10/1/2012 11:59:37 AM

well, they may have been exaggerating. What is the process like in NC?

10/1/2012 12:19:13 PM

It is quite simple to register in NC by filling out this form and mailing it in.

http://msweb03.co.wake.nc.us/bordelec/downloads/9forms/9formslist/NCVoterRegForm.pdf

If you do not provide a license or state issued ID number, or last 4 social security when you register you will still be processed, but you will be required to show ID when you show up at the polls for the first time. This is standard and no the same as a voter ID law (which we do not have in NC).

If your voter card that we send you in the mail comes back undeliverable (you provided an incorrect address) you will have to verify your address when you show up at the polls for the first time.

Wakegov's Board of Elections website has an AMAZINGLY informative faq that all Wake County voters should read.
http://www.wakegov.com/elections/10faq.htm

10/1/2012 1:37:38 PM

^^^^ Here is what I said in another thread:

Quote :

"Generally for the new voter ID laws you need to have proof of 1) name and date of birth, 2) identity, 3) residency, 4) Legal presence. If you have no drivers license then no. 1 usually requires a birth certificate which many people lose or misplace. In North Carolina, it can take at least 3 weeks to receive your copy (unless you are able to travel to Raleigh, which not everyone is). It also costs $24, plus $15 to expedite. If you can't recognize how all of this is a pain, and will likely prevent people from being able to vote, all for the added benefit of nothing really since voter fraud hardly ever happens... then you are an idiot."

Easy if you already have ID. If you are old or have moved around or were displaced and have no idea where your Birth Certificate is and can not prove your date of birth and legal presence its a little bit of a hassle. But its a big hassle when you don't realize you need ID until election day and cant vote.

10/1/2012 2:31:46 PM

Everyone knows these things when they move.

If voting is so important to them then (like me) moving their registration is one of the first things they would do.

This is a non-issue that is propagated by a party that depends on irresponsible voters.

Big surprise.

10/1/2012 2:43:32 PM

LOL, that Unskewed polls site has me cracking up. Obama has flipped a double digit deficit in the QStar daily polls in a week and now leads!!!!

10/1/2012 3:11:27 PM

http://nymag.com/news/features/election-polls-2012-10/index1.html

10/1/2012 3:34:05 PM

^^Don't forget this gem.

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 3:45 PM. Reason : -]

10/1/2012 3:40:44 PM

Everyone enjoying your additional $11k share of the government debt this year?

I know I am!

10/1/2012 6:53:01 PM

thanks to bush and the gop. you left that part out.

10/1/2012 7:42:04 PM

Oh I forgot they were still in office!

Thanks!

10/1/2012 8:28:48 PM

Federal outlays and revenue are only based on the existing president!

10/1/2012 8:40:31 PM