aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14979 Posts user info edit post |
He won this one, folks. 10/11/2012 10:37:30 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114636 Posts user info edit post |
I wish Biden had been a little less over-the-top with the laughing and not keeping his cool
that's going to cost them some votes - not sure how many but that's just a thought 10/11/2012 10:37:38 PM
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can't you just vote early and register at the same time?" |
Yeah... the GOP is working on cutting that back in a lot of states though
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I think one of the biggest hits tonight was the moderator and Biden both pressing Ryan for specifics and him declining to give them. If it was just your opponent that's one thing, but with the moderator pushing more than once, that's going to hurt.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:39 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 10:37:40 PM
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markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^for election day,
There will still be the one stop in person early voting option. If you miss the deadline you can register and vote in person at early voting locations. 10/11/2012 10:39:43 PM
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pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Can anyone tell me how Romney-Ryan plan on paying for their 20% across the board tax cut? 10/11/2012 10:40:44 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
BB I'd take Biden going off over Obama being a pussy any day.
Ryan said nothing meaningful all night.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:42 PM. Reason : The end] 10/11/2012 10:41:04 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can anyone tell me how Romney-Ryan plan on paying for their 20% across the board tax cut?" |
Can anyone tell me how the Democrats plan on paying for any of THEIR shit? let's stop pretending like either party cares about paying for their cockamamie ideas, ok? Obama is still pretending that the healthcare numbers add up, and fucktards like you are eating it up 10/11/2012 10:43:44 PM
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mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
^the 1% will see their bush tax cut disappear under Obama because they don't need it. are you one of the 1% who has a reason to support romney?
so how is romney gonna fix the deficit and cut taxes at the same time? 10/11/2012 10:48:27 PM
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mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
The reductions in tax rates will stimulate the economy and increase revenue. http://www.aeaweb.org/articles.php?doi=10.1257/aer.100.3.763.
Christina Romer is a key Obama economic advisor
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 10:48:33 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Here's what I gathered from Ryan tonight.
I'm a catholic, and the catholic church says life begins at conception, and since my church says that I'm gonna appoint supreme court judges to over turn Roe V Wade.
Also while I outlaw abortions, I will cut medicare and medicaid, tax the hell out of you, and get rid of obamacare. Now good luck taking care of the bastard child I'm gonna make you have.(and you won't be getting any government help you lazy ass)
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:50 PM. Reason : grammer.] 10/11/2012 10:48:37 PM
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Roflpack All American 1966 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty good debate. 10/11/2012 10:49:40 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the 1% will see their bush tax cut disappear under Obama because they don't need it." |
I love the arrogance of someone determining for someone else how much of their hard-earned money they "need". even better is "it won't affect you, so why do you care," as if stealing is OK as long as it's not stolen from you.
Quote : | " Now good luck taking care of the bastard child I'm gonna make you have." |
Really? He's gonna go out and impregnate women at random? Damn, didn't know that...
Quote : | "so how is romney gonna fix the deficit and cut taxes at the same time?" |
How is Obama gonna make healthcare break even when he can't even do it without lying when he quotes 10 years of receipts and 6 years of expenses?] 10/11/2012 10:52:57 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Why are you crying about a tax cut for the filthy rich? WTF is wrong with you.
Bitches get pregnant. His religious belief should not become a fucking law. This is America, if a person wants a abortions its their right to get it. We don't live in soviet Russia. Of course its ok for Romney Ryan and the GOP to tell women what their choices are.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:56 PM. Reason : You are a idiot. Good night] 10/11/2012 10:54:30 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not particularly crying about it. I think we should let ALL the cuts expire. But "soak the rich" aint gonna work, and I think it's immoral for ANYONE to say someone else doesn't "need" what he's rightfully earned and then take it from him.
Quote : | "Bitches get pregnant. His religious belief should not become a fucking law. This is America, if a person wants a abortions its their right to get it. We don't live in soviet Russia. Of course its ok for Romney Ryan and the GOP to tell women what their choices are." |
1) The bitch could always make the choice not have sex. Then she doesn't have to worry about getting pregnant. 2) If abortion were ONLY about a woman's body, you would have a point, but that completely ignores the very real question of if there is another life involved. To say it's only a woman's body is to use circular reasoning and then to declare victory.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 10:58 PM. Reason : ] 10/11/2012 10:56:30 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Oh the rich rightfully earned that tax cut by paying lobbyist to get it? 10/11/2012 10:57:56 PM
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GeniuSxBoY Suspended 16786 Posts user info edit post |

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wlbone New Recruit 18 Posts user info edit post |
That GIF was close. I need one of biden doing that hard questionig look at Ryan. Then the laughter. Come on! 10/11/2012 10:58:23 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh the rich rightfully earned that tax cut by paying lobbyist to get it?" |
don't be obtuse 10/11/2012 10:58:43 PM
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mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
Raising taxes on the highest earners would further stifle the economy. Even Obama's own advisor says so. Unemployment would increase further and tax revenue would suffer. 10/11/2012 10:59:57 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Egg + sperm is not a person. And even if thats your belief how does that give you the right to tell another person what they can and can't do? If you are anti abortion because life begins at conception then their should be no exceptions. Oh its a rape baby KILL IT. STFU. 10/11/2012 11:03:31 PM
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armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^^That's the same trickle down nonsense republicans have been selling since Reagan, and no amount of deflection will convince me capital gains should be taxed at half what I'm shelling out in payroll taxes.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:05 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 11:04:02 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114636 Posts user info edit post |
lol burro
you're pretty much living out the typical hotheaded hardcore Republican stereotype
it's not doing you justice, breh
try not calling people dumbasses and cussing so much, and perhaps people would take you more seriously
sorry for edits - I can't really think clearly tonight ] 10/11/2012 11:04:44 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Things are so much better now than under Reagan.
Boy if I had a time machine. 10/11/2012 11:05:24 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
If you had capital gains you'd say it should be taxed at 13% 10/11/2012 11:05:39 PM
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mdozer73 All American 8005 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^So you contend the effective tax rate has no effect on GDP?
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:07 PM. Reason : ^] 10/11/2012 11:05:58 PM
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Str8BacardiL ************ 41759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 1) The bitch could always make the choice not have sex. Then she doesn't have to worry about getting pregnant." | .
This sounds like a horrible plan. 10/11/2012 11:07:38 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Yea if you had a time machine. You people act like Obama caused this economy to fuck up. he economy was fucked when he was elected. Now its his fault that he couldn't fix it in 4 years. IT TOOK BUSH 8 YEARS AND 2 WARS TO FUCK US 10/11/2012 11:08:53 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Egg + sperm is not a person. And even if thats your belief how does that give you the right to tell another person what they can and can't do?" |
Then all I need to do is declare that YOU are not a person, by your logic, and then I can say that I can kill you with impunity. Egg and sperm might not be a person, but a fetus is CERTAINLY some kind of human life, and I think that knowingly and willfully killing human life should require a little more of a reason than "it's inconvenient to me," which is what the overwhelming majority of abortions are.
Quote : | "If you are anti abortion because life begins at conception then their should be no exceptions. Oh its a rape baby KILL IT. STFU." |
Not at all, because being raped is more of a justification than "it's inconvenient to me." Forcing a woman to bear the child of a rape is tantamount to allowing the rape to continue, and THAT is unconscionable. Then again, rape is such a small fraction of abortion cases, that it's almost pointless to even talk about it.
Quote : | "This sounds like a horrible plan." |
Not an entire plan, but an awesome first step: acknowledging that, OMG, sex leads to pregnancy
^ you know, I don't blame Obama for coming to a royally fucked economy. But I do blame him for slamming on the accelerator the moment he got into office and holding the steering wheel straight.] 10/11/2012 11:08:58 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
The rape baby is a person. You have no right to play god and kill a person because his/her daddy raped mommy. Thats bullshit logic.
He did what?
Republicans. Only care about themselves, and their rich friends. Go vote for Romney.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:12 PM. Reason : I quit.] 10/11/2012 11:11:20 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Biologically, there is no denying that it is a person at conception. Thats what Ryan means by "Science". Thats fact. The problem is, consciousness does not begin until 24th week at the earliest.
So the debate is weather or not humans are sacred when we are nothing more than a unique lump of human cells that could be created in a few hours? 10/11/2012 11:11:28 PM
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BubbleBobble BACK IN DA HIGH LIFE 114636 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BB I'd take Biden going off over Obama being a pussy any day.
Ryan said nothing meaningful all night." |
I'll agree - I'm not bothered by his performance at all, but I feel like he possibly came off as arrogant to those who don't have extensive political knowledge 10/11/2012 11:13:37 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Ryan said Religion. Not science. 10/11/2012 11:13:41 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The rape baby is a person. You have no right to play god and kill a person because his/her daddy raped mommy. Thats bullshit logic." |
I'm not the one playing god, and I'm not the one making said decision. All I've said is that I am ok with allowing a woman who has been raped to make that decision, while I am NOT ok with allowing that decision to be made simply when the pregnancy is an inconvenience. You're smart enough to see the difference. It's a great strawman you've built there, but I'm not arguing any such thing, dude. Our laws allow the knowing and intentional killing of human life, and in every case, there must be good reason to do so, except abortion.] 10/11/2012 11:15:25 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
CNN saying Ryan won, 48/44
A sitting VP has never lost a debate before-
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:18 PM. Reason : -] 10/11/2012 11:18:18 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |

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goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
people who think VP debates matter are the same ones who get pissed over what's in a platform at the convention
and they're idiots 10/11/2012 11:21:07 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Like Supplanter? 10/11/2012 11:22:02 PM
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Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cbsnews.com/
Quote : | "A CBS News/GFK poll of 500 uncommitted voters gives Biden 50% edge to Ryan's 31%" |
Same guys who did the poll last time that everyone used to say Romney won, now saying Biden won this one pretty good.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 11:22:30 PM
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Bullet All American 28620 Posts user info edit post |
master debatin'!
Quote : | "1) The bitch could always make the choice not have sex. Then she doesn't have to worry about getting pregnant." |
10/11/2012 11:23:33 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53284 Posts user info edit post |
You know those polls are flawed. They don't take in account houses that have, uh, more than two television sets, and other things of that nature. 10/11/2012 11:24:04 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I'm ready to see if Obama can stop being a bitch and man up. If Obama mans up Romney and Ryan can go home.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:27 PM. Reason : Yall werent complaining when Romney Won lmao] 10/11/2012 11:25:24 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Nice sample size.
Let me go grab a college-ruled notepad and conduct a similar study here in my neighborhood.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:26 PM. Reason : -] 10/11/2012 11:26:02 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
The VP debate means just as much as the P debate.
Nothing. 10/11/2012 11:27:17 PM
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ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18949 Posts user info edit post |

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goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
people who bitch about sample size are the best
it immediately discredits their entire knowledge about statistics AND politics at the same time
a poll of 500 me's is not shocked willy is one of those idiots
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:28 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 11:28:03 PM
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BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
STOP THIS MALARKEY!!!!!! 10/11/2012 11:28:10 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^LOL
I'm glad your major required you to take a quantitative methods class your junior year.
Please go about your business pretending that makes you an expert.
What did they teach you? 30 is an acceptable minimum?
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:32 PM. Reason : -] 10/11/2012 11:30:02 PM
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armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^ and what was the sample size on the CNN poll you referenced?
If you weren't so blatant about filtering out any information that doesn't conform with your preconceived notions you might be worth arguing with.
[Edited on October 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .] 10/11/2012 11:34:56 PM
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jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
lol Ryan is going to be a weirder looking old person than Ron Paul 10/11/2012 11:36:22 PM
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