lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
I get that error too, and the status of my identity verification has gone from "Pending" back to "Not verified"![](images/frown.gif)
also it's like all my hard work filling out that application was wasted 10/10/2013 1:48:20 PM
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ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.java.net/forum/topic/glassfish/metro-and-jaxb/jaxb-error-no-element-mapping-exists-when-binding-xml-objects
perhaps one of the developers... 10/10/2013 2:27:05 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
When I first saw references to "cms.gov" I thought it was their big central Content-Management System
instead it means "Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services" 10/10/2013 2:29:44 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
I keep trying to finish the application I supposedly never finished and it says page not found.
GG assholes 10/10/2013 2:35:40 PM
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lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
I'm hoping they validate my identity; I think I filled out the new application with no sanitization errors. 10/10/2013 3:48:14 PM
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beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
i hope the govt can get some of the 634 million(no joke) they paid for this POS website back 10/10/2013 5:35:52 PM
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ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131010/01484924821/why-healthcaregov-sucks-because-they-hired-political-cronies-not-internet-native-companies-to-build-it.shtml
Quote : | "The Sunlight Foundation (link above) figured out the list of contractors who worked on the site, and noted that the big ones not only are well-known DC power-player insiders, but they're also big on the lobbying and political contributions side of things. You've got companies like... Booz Allen Hamilton, famous for promoting cyberwar hype and employing Ed Snowden. There's defense contracting giant Northrup Grumman. Then there's SAIC -- which I can't believe can still get government business. This is the same firm that famously was given a $380 million contract to revamp the FBI system, on which it went $220 million over budget, and then saw the entire system scrapped after it (literally) brought some users to tears, and the FBI realized it was useless in fighting terrorism. SAIC is also the company that NYC Mayor Bloomberg demanded return $600 million after a city computer project (budgeted at $68 million) actually cost $740 million. SAIC has a long list of similar spectacular failures on government IT projects. " |
10/10/2013 6:24:03 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148807 Posts user info edit post |
Government project running 1000% over estimated budget? Just do a change order, problem solved, it's free money to them 10/10/2013 7:57:34 PM
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CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on October 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ] 10/10/2013 8:02:38 PM
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jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ not entirely surprising 10/10/2013 8:04:40 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ but the gov't is always efficient with the taxpayers' money... they never waste it or generally suck at spending it wisely. 10/10/2013 11:17:03 PM
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ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/ 10/16/2013 11:08:59 PM
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dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
Still not working for me. They asked me some personal security questions, which I answered correctly, but they said I was wrong. So then they made me scan and email my Driver's License info in, which I did, and it says it's still pending. When I tried to click on it, it asks me I have to sit there and fill in everything all over again, from teh beginning. It's a pain in the ass. Idk what to do. 10/17/2013 12:01:34 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
looking more like a trainwreck every day 10/17/2013 12:04:13 PM
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Why is anyone surprised by this?
How many of you have ever had a positive experience at the DMV or with the IRS or with any government agency?
Why would you think that the people who make it stupidly difficult to give them money would actually have a navigable (forget about user friendly) website for something this vast?
Honestly, you would be better served just to walk into a BCBS office. There's one in Morrisville, just save yourself the time and aggravation. 10/17/2013 12:26:12 PM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How many of you have ever had a positive experience at the DMV or with the IRS or with any government agency?" |
most have been positive, actually
apart from the police 10/17/2013 12:27:59 PM
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synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How many of you have ever had a positive experience at the DMV or with the IRS or with any government agency" |
Most have been, and I've even had a number with police too!] 10/17/2013 2:09:09 PM
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Nighthawk All American 19639 Posts user info edit post |
Still will not let me advance. I can't start another form either as it says you can only have one application per state. And I see no way to cancel one once it is in progress. Boo. 10/17/2013 2:22:43 PM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i have to deal with federal regulators and they are usually pretty good to work with. response times have increased since budgets were cut post-sequestration, but otherwise its fine. they are very good with reviewing risk-based alternatives that differ from the exact requirements in federal regulations. 10/17/2013 2:23:22 PM
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willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
the only unpleasant experiences I have are with the license plate agency in Washington (nc)
the people that own it are just some unhappy, hateful people. 10/17/2013 2:39:47 PM
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JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Most have been, and I've even had a number with police too!" |
![](http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/116/154/DUANE.gif?1303443119) 10/17/2013 3:07:41 PM
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ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
http://washingtonexaminer.com/troubled-obamacare-website-wasnt-tested-until-a-week-before-launch/article/2537381 10/17/2013 9:53:56 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148807 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say I've ever had a negative experience with the IRS or DMV (aside from long lines at the DMV) but I sure as hell wouldn't call any of them "positive" 10/17/2013 10:02:01 PM
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ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html 10/17/2013 10:11:27 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53249 Posts user info edit post |
all the 'pubs had to do to get rid of Obamacare was let this shit show play out on its own. instead, they derped it up and people aren't even paying attention to this fiasco 10/17/2013 10:20:22 PM
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rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
I spoke with one of the online chat support folks, because I wanted to get in and just compare the plans available. They told me that I had to actually apply for the healthcare before I could see the plans. I stopped right there.
It would be ok if it was just needing to create a login and password to the site...tons of other sites make you do that to use them. But no, they want me to apply, meaning giving them my family income, ssn, and other information. Nope. Sure they already have it, and more, but I'm not going to voluntarily make it easier for them just to view plans.
They said it was so they could match me up with the best plans according to my circumstance. I would think I could do that myself, as long as they posted the rules for each plan. 10/18/2013 11:33:14 AM
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rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
Double post
Oh and as of yesterday, 1 person had signed up in Deleware. 10/18/2013 11:33:40 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Someone should be fired over this, the contract with the vendor should be scrutinized and money taken back where appropriate, and we need to majorly overhaul procurement.
Obama talked a big game about bringing more IT development in-house. At the very least this should have been bid out to more competent IT companies and not the usual government vendors. There is no excuse that we paid what we did for such poor results, someone needs to be fired. 10/18/2013 11:37:20 AM
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rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
I work for one of the government vendors, and even I hadn't heard of CGI before. We provide mostly services, and I don't think we do a lot of web development, but the usual vendors seem to do ok for the most part:
Northrup Grummon Accenture CSC HP Lockheed Martin
These companies have tons of government contracts - I'm not sure why the deal wasn't bid out to them, with their established track record. I guess where I'm going is, even though it looks like the vendor botched the project in such a retarded fashion as to be epic, we don't know what was going on behind the scenes between them and the gubment.
One problem though, is that these contractors, while they are independent, still have to abide by government rules, regulations, and government employees. Things move slower than molasses in government - that's no secret, and it is very frustrating trying to get your project done when it is being help up by red tape.
Anybody working in IT I'm sure can agree that they hate change management and change control, but it is a necessary evil. Try working with change management when you have a government official on the change board. Nothing gets done on time.
[Edited on October 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM. Reason : ajdsl;] 10/18/2013 11:42:30 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^those vendors do not do okay, they have terrible track records.
It's not an issue because of government rules, most procurement happens without little oversight and its been a problem since the Clinton administration. Floating specifications are a huge problem though.
CGI bought Stanley Inc, which was a large government contractor. You may not have heard of CGI, but Stanley was a long history with government contracts.
[Edited on October 18, 2013 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .] 10/18/2013 11:50:14 AM
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rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
No, I didn't realize the relationship there. 10/18/2013 11:53:36 AM
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Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
i've given up fucking with it. When I hear reports that it is working fine, ill go back and retry. 10/18/2013 12:07:57 PM
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BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
i'd have given them a working site for like half that 10/18/2013 12:19:11 PM
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beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
Jamie Dupree:
Quote : | "Washington Post reporting tonight: "As late as Sept 26, there had been no tests" to see if anyone could complete an insurance application on the healthcare.gov web site" |
wow
3 years, 600 million and the website wasnt even ready to be tested yet. ![](images/crack.gif) 10/22/2013 5:59:13 AM
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Nighthawk All American 19639 Posts user info edit post |
Yea I called in to ask about doing an application over the phone. But the guy told me it would take 6 weeks to process. I then created another account so I could do another application. At first I was cruising along, but then it came grinding to a halt.
Now I have two different accounts that don't work. This time it fucks up when I even try to set the number of people I am applying for coverage for. It can't detect that when I set my wife as my spouse when entering the family information, when I go to the tax information it thinks I need to select Somebody Else for my spouse. When you do that, it goes to hell in a handbasket. ![](images/mad.gif) 10/22/2013 7:30:00 AM
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rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
So when are Obama or Sebelius going to step up and take the blame for this istead of blaming others? This is his signature achievement while in office. Be a leader, admit that it is not ready, take down the site, and start over if necessary. 10/22/2013 9:12:44 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
why is it Obama's fault? 10/22/2013 9:16:20 AM
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quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://i.imgur.com/H3MZRDh.gif)
10/22/2013 9:24:29 AM
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rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure if anybody is really saying that it is Obama's, or Sebillius's fault. And the Apple example has been used before. If you are the CEO of Apple, and you don't write a single line of code, but put out something that doesn't work, or works but not well, you're going to get blamed. It is your ultimate responsibility.
Take the Apple Maps app for example. The person in charge of that project got fired. Did he design the app? No. Did he do any of the coding that caused it to fail so hard? No. Did he get fired? Pretty much. 10/22/2013 9:40:55 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so Obama's speech was not him stepping up?
[Edited on October 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM. Reason : steve jobs did not get fired for Maps] 10/22/2013 9:41:53 AM
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Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
^Steve Jobs wasn't at Apple when Apple Maps snafu happened. 10/22/2013 9:43:51 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Cook didn't get fired
[Edited on October 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM. Reason : Maps started under Jobs, but way to miss the point] 10/22/2013 9:44:44 AM
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beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
Obama needs to delay the mandate for a year. How the hell can you fine someone for not signing up when the site doesn't even allow you to 10/22/2013 10:44:18 AM
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
because you aren't required to use the exchange, there is a phone number, and we still have 71 days. If anything, the requirement should just be delayed a few months. 10/22/2013 10:48:19 AM
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moron All American 34424 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not sure if anybody is really saying that it is Obama's, or Sebillius's fault. And the Apple example has been used before. If you are the CEO of Apple, and you don't write a single line of code, but put out something that doesn't work, or works but not well, you're going to get blamed. It is your ultimate responsibility.
Take the Apple Maps app for example. The person in charge of that project got fired. Did he design the app? No. Did he do any of the coding that caused it to fail so hard? No. Did he get fired? Pretty much.
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So you want to fire Obama, then have someone else who is going to make the Exchange sites even bigger and better?
Did realize you were such a big Obamacare supporter. 10/22/2013 12:47:49 PM
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ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
But the exchanges are going to save me $2500/year... So I'll wait on them 10/22/2013 1:45:13 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
you people trust the government with your health insurance when they can't get a simple website working (in 2013?!)?? 10/22/2013 4:28:03 PM
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Smath74 All American 93281 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qtx_ZcHOjw&feature=youtu.be 10/22/2013 4:30:51 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2471978/Bombshell-Federal-judge-suddenly-green-lights-lawsuit-stop-Obamacare-tracks.html
So what's worse? Judicial activism or the executive's selective enforcement? 10/22/2013 4:33:04 PM
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beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Affordable Care Act authorizes subsidies only for policies purchased 'through an Exchange established by the State.' " |
does not look like activism to me. the case appears to have merit 10/22/2013 4:55:55 PM
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