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dtownral
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did they even include a poster that students could bring a hold up? If go to hell carolina is too offensive, they can't throw a block S or "Go Pack!" or something on a full sheet?

3/4/2014 4:48:19 PM

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Yeah, they could have done something. For this page, does anyone know the year of this Sam DeGrave guy and how long they've been running the Daily Tar Hell?

3/4/2014 4:50:14 PM

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^^ nope

[Edited on March 4, 2014 at 4:50 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

3/4/2014 4:50:23 PM

dtownral
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i bet his response would be something like "but including a 'Go Pack!' poster is still continuing the offensive tradition of 'Go to Hell Carolina'!!!"

3/4/2014 4:56:26 PM

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3/4/2014 5:31:01 PM

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^^^^ http://studentmedia.ncsu.edu/web/2013/03/student-leaders-hired-for-2013-2014

He was a junior last year, it looks like


and the previous editor says "since the 1980s"

http://www.technicianonline.com/opinion/editorials/article_d20477e2-66b1-11e2-bdae-001a4bcf6878.html

[Edited on March 4, 2014 at 5:45 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2014 5:38:09 PM

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What a FN douche....I hope someone else has his position next year? Please say so.

3/4/2014 5:48:28 PM

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"Sam DeGrave, Editor-in-Chief
We made it. It has been six days since we didn’t publish The Daily Tar Hell, and with the exception of one man who wrote to tell me he “died a little inside” due to the absence of the spoof paper, it appears life will go on.
Nevertheless, I’ve been told I “owe fans, students, and alumni an apology,” so if you are among those who share that sentiment, stop reading this now.
I am not sorry, and I owe nothing to anyone who only picks up the paper once a year to read a joke edition. However, after having spent a week in the ninth circle of Daily Tar Hell, I would like to explain why I made the decision that landed me there.

”Too busy”
Using Facebook comments, Tweets, letters to the editor, discussion boards and blog posts, perturbed students and alumni alike attacked my excuse that we were “too busy” to produce The DTH, calling it ”weak,” “shameful,” and a reason enough to fire the entire staff of the Technician “from the editor down the line.” Though I can’t say I agree with all of that, I’ll give them that it was “weak.” You see, the now-infamous “too busy” excuse was never the official explanation many people treated it to be. What it was, however, was an over-simplified answer given via Facebook message to the editor-in-chief of the The Daily Tar Heel, Nicole Comparato, who then tweeted the following:
@Nic_Comp: “A bit sad there’s no Daily Tar Hell from the Technician. The editor told me they were too busy to do it. Would have been so entertaining...”
Simply put, the reason my excuse sounded like a cop out is because it was. I didn’t feel as though I owed Comparato a detailed explanation, so I didn’t give her one.
During my time at the paper, I’ve learned the importance of the cliché: Consider your source. Hopefully, all of you who acted as though I hand delivered an explanation to you saying only “I’m too busy” will now see the value of that cliché as well.
But let’s come back to the “too busy” excuse for a minute because while I’ll admit it is a little “weak” on its own, that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Wolfpack Nation has no shortage of armchair quarterbacks, but I had no idea we had so many armchair editors as well.
I’ve been amazed by the amount I’ve learned about time management, the production schedule of the Technician and my own schedule, for that matter, since Wednesday, but what has truly made this eye-opening experience even more unbelievable—and I use that word literally—is that I’ve learned all of this from complete strangers, many of whom have no experience working for a newspaper.
Yes, at first it was a bit shocking to learn I have been doing my job incorrectly every Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesdayand Thursday night this entire year, but I’m truly thankful for each and every letter I received telling me how to set my own priorities.
By showing me what it looks like not to be “too busy,” each person who spent his or her time complaining about the lack of The Daily Tar Hell helped prove, by comparison, just how busy we really are at the Technician.
However, the truth is if I had nothing better to do than to twiddle my thumbs or troll the Wolfpack Students Facebook page, I would still be too busy to produce a spoof paper.
Why? Because that’s not my job, and anyone who thinks otherwise is mistaken.
Nowhere does my job description say I am required to produce a paper mimicking The Daily Tar Heel. I didn’t decide to work for a newspaper to write jokes, and contrary to the beliefs of some people, neither did the majority of the editors who came before me.

”But it’s a tradition”
Several people wrote to inform me that The Daily Tar Hell is a “prized tradition,” and “we have an inexcusable habit of letting traditions die at N.C. State.” However, in the case of The DTH, letting tradition die was entirely my intention.
Last fall, while talking to a former editor of the Technician, I asked him about The Daily Tar Hell. After laughing and showing me The Tar Hells he helped produce, his demeanor changed. He warned me to be careful if I planned to publish the spoof and said he dodged a bullet. Without having to ask, I knew exactly what he was talking about after looking through his DTHs. The humor, if you can call it that, which the editions relied on was sexist, racist and most commonly homophobic.
I began looking through the archive at other editions of The Daily Tar Hell and found that these discriminatory jokes continued well into the late ‘90s. Though the sexism, racism and homophobia fairly well disappeared at the start of the 2000s, the tradition of The DTH is one that will always be rooted in hateful humor.
The question shouldn’t be “Why did we kill The Daily Tar Hell?” it should be “Why did we continue it for as long as we did?”
One person wrote a letter in which he said, “The Daily Tar Hell is a tradition at N.C. State, and your entire staff should be ashamed.”
First of all, my entire staff is not to blame. I made the decision not to run The DTH, and I stand by it. Any further comments or concerns should be directed to me, not my staff."

3/4/2014 6:03:34 PM

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His tone is totally wrong. Dick.

3/4/2014 6:45:24 PM

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HEY, YOU'RE TALKING TO MY GUY ALL WRONG.
IT'S THE WRONG TONE.
DO IT AGAIN, I'LL STAB YOU IN THE FACE WITH A SOLDERING IRON.

3/4/2014 7:00:36 PM

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V

[Edited on March 4, 2014 at 7:46 PM. Reason : ]

3/4/2014 7:45:26 PM

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"This is what happens when we suck for 25 years. An entire generation stops giving a shit. The reason why PP and SFN are full of old men is because that's all we have left."


3/4/2014 7:45:47 PM

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the only purpose of the Daily Tar Hell was to have a gigantic poster saying "GO TO HELL CAROLINA!" to wave at the game. After finding out their basketball team was incapable of reading those signs, the Daily Tar Hell seemed kind of pointless.

3/4/2014 10:00:29 PM

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^^It's true though. That's why that 30 for 30 is a big deal. Too many fans of the game seriously don't know about NC State basketball.

[Edited on March 4, 2014 at 10:05 PM. Reason : ]

3/4/2014 10:04:02 PM

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dude deleted his twitter account. HAHAHAH

3/6/2014 1:39:34 AM

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Well, it wasn't much of an account to start with.

3/6/2014 9:39:44 AM

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Technician
A daily newspaper, Technician reports the events of interest to the University community and functions as a meeting place for campus opinions through letters and guestwritten material. The paper is available five days a week during the fall and spring and once a week during summer sessions. 2013-2014 editor Sam DeGrave can be reached via 515-2411 and technician-editor@ncsu.edu. technicianonline.com

3/6/2014 10:06:01 AM

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Waiting to see something from chancellors office and/or alumni associations saying they are having fundraising complaints over this.

If people were really concerned, follow their money...

3/6/2014 11:42:23 AM

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any idea if they're doing it tomorrow? hopefully that douchebag editor from last year either graduated or got canned.

1/13/2015 10:12:50 AM

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Hopefully Ravi cares for tradition.

https://www.facebook.com/rkchitt

1/13/2015 10:15:32 AM

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"the only purpose of the Daily Tar Hell was to have a gigantic poster saying "GO TO HELL CAROLINA!" to wave at the game. After finding out their basketball team was incapable of reading those signs, the Daily Tar Hell seemed kind of pointless."


hahaha



and I didn't realize the Technician had ditched the Daily Tar Hell. Sounds about right. No more Brent Road, no more Lawn Party, no more Pigstock, no more Tappa Tappa Keg house, effectively no more fraternity court, no more football tailgating for all practical purposes, no more campout for tickets. They had run out of anything else fun to shitcan; there was nothing left but the Daily Tar Hell.

1/13/2015 1:15:10 PM

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"no more Lawn Party, no more Pigstock, no more Tappa Tappa Keg house"


what were these things? serious question.

also, what used to happen at frat court that doesn't anymore?

I remember going to Brent Rd. parties in high school but the glory days were over when I came for college. I was a junior in high school when the tailgate shooting happened.

1/13/2015 3:17:17 PM

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Lawn Party was held out at the trinity (or tx?) lot during the day. No, wait, was it the big field at the vet school? I can't remember. Bands and lots of booze. It was near the begginning of the school year, iirc

And here's Pigstock: http://www.kingkeith.8m.com/pigstock/index.html

I can't speak to the frat stuff.

[Edited on January 13, 2015 at 3:23 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2015 3:22:54 PM

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so is there definitely no DTH?

1/13/2015 3:31:46 PM

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DTH is on a two hour delay due to snowmaggedon 2K15

1/13/2015 7:18:36 PM

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You can thank political correctness for this

f'ing progressives.

1/13/2015 9:30:37 PM

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The reasons the guy gave for cancelling it are shitty. He's clearly a humorless twat and if I had still been at State when this happened it would probably be one of those issues that caused me to launch an intensely personal jihad against him, as I am wont to do.

But I also think this "But our traditions!" argument is a pretty mixed bag. Camping out for tickets? That's a tradition that's all-around pretty defensible. A lot of the other ones sound like they are mostly just variants on the theme of "A bunch of people get drunk in public." I'm wholeheartedly in favor of a bunch of people getting drunk in public, but as far as traditions go, haven't they been replaced by new variations like the Hillsborough Hike and Halloween? Is the difference that you could do more blatantly illegal shit at Brent Road?

Tailgating is a tough one. Yeah, they cut the legs out from under it, but it's still a blast, and I never went into a game without being full of tailgating food and booze.

I dunno. That editor is still an asshole, and we should all take some solace in the fact that he clearly lives a bleak, joyless life.

1/14/2015 2:38:12 AM

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Can't people just write satirical articles and put them on the internet?

1/14/2015 2:42:21 AM

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Blah blah blah

Piece of shit just wanted something he could point to in the future and say, "look at what I did for a nonexistent cause. I am such a noble guy." It's a pathetic attempt to preemptively curry favor with some future employer.

Burn his house down.

1/14/2015 2:44:19 AM

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Just read the editorial. What a fucking tool

[Edited on January 14, 2015 at 2:52 AM. Reason : .]

1/14/2015 2:50:58 AM

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Something tells me he knows something about currying favor

1/14/2015 6:38:16 AM

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Fuck him, this makes me so fucking angry that I'm embarrassed. This shit is indefensible.

The goal of the Technician is to provide an extracurricular activity to a few students and crossword puzzles to the rest. Fuck you, you high and mighty piece of shit. Giant single page ads for apartments are fine, but printing "Go to hell Carolina" on a page in a single edition is to lowly for your fine paper? Fuck you.

1/14/2015 6:45:33 AM

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^^^^^https://theartifexncsu.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/dailytarhellf.pdf

1/14/2015 7:14:39 AM

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i see they haven't linked the editorial online yet. anyone want to post a pic of it so i can get riled up?

1/14/2015 8:18:28 AM

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http://www.technicianonline.com/opinion/article_1d7b3c44-9bab-11e4-9046-8337a70ef40d.html

1/14/2015 8:28:46 AM

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haha, i like the walmart ad

1/14/2015 10:03:44 AM

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haha look at those kids taking the technician all serious

GUYS ITS SUPER SERIOUS STUFF, WE CANT DO THIS

1/14/2015 10:17:54 AM

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don't knock the technician, its an amazing work of fiction

1/14/2015 10:22:19 AM

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did i hear something about Ravi K. Chittilla and deworming agent?

1/14/2015 10:25:09 AM

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Ravi K. Chittilla is a THIEF and a LIAR

1/14/2015 10:38:39 AM

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It's a little dissapointing that they decided not to do it for the second year in a row, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the cover story they ran the day after the win over Duke.

1/14/2015 10:39:54 AM

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Ravi K. Chittilla took Dorothy Mantooth out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again!

1/14/2015 10:43:57 AM

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definitely sent him an email to express my disappointment in his choice. Can't wait to see what riveting articles are written with the "resources" that would have been wasted with the Daily Tar Hell.

1/14/2015 10:59:18 AM

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Stop taking yourselves so seriously. It's college.

1/14/2015 11:02:43 AM

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" but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the cover story they ran the day after the win over Duke."

the headline for that story makes his "we are above this" argument even more ridiculous

1/14/2015 11:26:50 AM

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My guess is he is a UNC fan.

1/14/2015 11:28:44 AM

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^^true. but i think his argument "we're not humorists so we won't try to be" holds some weight.

1/14/2015 11:31:06 AM

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Fuck that FOB.

Chittilla comes from the ancient Indian word that translates directly to "smelly cunt"

1/14/2015 11:33:03 AM

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"no more football tailgating for all practical purposes"


5 hours is enough for me, but I realize others want to show up at 7am for a night game.

1/14/2015 11:37:21 AM

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And shoot people...etc

How much beer do you need to drink to watch a losing team lose?

[Edited on January 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM. Reason : ,]

1/14/2015 11:37:53 AM

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