I want AIDS. Everybody is doing Ebola these days.


/hipster

10/16/2014 1:18:33 PM

the case fatality rate even with great healthcare is still probably going to be 70%. Your own bodies immune response and inflammatory mediators wreak havoc on your body. Your adrenal glands poop out from the high viral load and stop producing enough adrenaline to keep your blood pressure up. Your blood vessels get leaky as well so intravascular fluid shifts into your tissues. Dr. Brantley and Nancy Writebol were both very "puffy" from tissue swelling, but had low levels of fluid circulating. They required a lot of fluid resuscitation, plasma, and probably albumin transfusions.

The bleeding occurs from liver failure. The virus hits your liver hard and you lose clotting factors.

Like with other viruses, we try to provide supportive care and hope for the best. IT sucks.

10/16/2014 9:35:26 PM

Turns out she may have been showing symptoms much earlier and so now everyone she had contact with in Cleveland along with the people on the flight from Dallas to Cleveland are in play as well. Should be an interesting next week to see if we lucked out or if this starts getting out of control.

[Edited on October 16, 2014 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2014 9:52:53 PM

Good thing I live in the middle of nowhere.

I'll keep posting on TWW long after all of you have bled out of your eyeballs.

10/16/2014 10:02:16 PM

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10/16/2014 10:03:45 PM

I am going to employ the best strategies of the Zombie Apocalypse thread to save myself and my family from Ebola.

10/17/2014 1:39:31 AM

The best part of this Ebola scare will be the public persecution of dumb assholes if Ebola starts to spread.

For example, clipboard guy (google him), walks with a patient without a hazmat suit, or a mask, or gloves, despite literally everyone around him is in a hazmat suit.

Not here to argue "maybe he felt safe since the patient was in a suit too". But he knew that media was all over this patient transfer, and that he should suit up to exercise all available precautions even if its for the sake of the cameras. Public Relations fail, use of all available resources for safety fail, but at least he had an all powerful clipboard.


Update: here is what the hospital says about clipboard guy:

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""Our medical professionals in the biohazard suits have limited vision and mobility, and it is the protocol supervisor’s job to watch each person carefully and give them verbal directions to ensure no close contact protocols are violated," a Phoenix Air spokesperson told ABC News."

I spent 2 years training to respond to bio and chem disasters, this "protocol" makes sense if the risk of falling or obstruction is greater than risk of contamination for an individual. But like I said, PR risk was ignored. Whammy.

[Edited on October 17, 2014 at 8:50 AM. Reason : .]

10/17/2014 8:40:02 AM

clipboard guy didn't have contact with the patient, was there as a safety supervisor

when it comes to issues of employee or public safety, PR doesn't and shouldn't matter

[Edited on October 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM. Reason : .]

10/17/2014 8:53:23 AM

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"when it comes to issues of employee or public safety, PR doesn't and shouldn't matter"

I agree 1000%. But cameras are everywhere these days, and their presence drives public opinion, which sadly changes the decision making process. It sucks.

10/17/2014 9:10:40 AM

But Facebook tells me ebola can be spread through the air now.

10/17/2014 10:18:13 AM

Passenger dies in seat after vomiting on flight from Nigeria to New York City; Ebola not suspected.

10/17/2014 12:06:38 PM

dat airline food will get ya errytime

10/17/2014 4:43:03 PM

10/20/2014 9:22:10 AM

^lol

I'm flying to Waco next week through Dallas

10/20/2014 9:33:35 AM

I'm quarantining myself as well.

10/20/2014 9:38:02 AM

10/21/2014 9:53:02 PM

It's in New York now, confirmed that a doctor has it.

OMG FREAK OUT IT MUST BE MORE EASY TO CATCH THAN THEY SAY BECAUSE THREE PEOPLE WHO HANDLE THE BODILY FLUIDS OF SICK PEOPLE CAUGHT IT!

You're all welcome to come hide out in Benin where it's safe.

10/24/2014 4:24:21 AM

How organized is Benin if Ebola does make it there? I'm assuming not nearly as organized as Nigeria?

10/24/2014 8:37:12 AM

I think the cases of the two nurses that got it were enough to stamp out some of the fears regarding how easily transmissible it is. My concern now is that the media made so much hype about it a few weeks ago, if it ever does really become an issue, nobody will care since it is out of the 24 hr news cycle now.

10/24/2014 8:51:35 AM

I think the 21 day incubation period from each of those nurses will have to pass before people really start believing it. The family and friends of Nurse Vinson in Ohio are still under quarantine. The staff who treated Duncan are under monitoring until the end of this month.

It's a good sign there aren't more cases popping up, but they're not out of the woods yet.

10/24/2014 8:55:35 AM

What about reports that the incubation period is actually 42 days? Is there any truth to that?

10/24/2014 9:01:22 AM

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"Recent studies conducted in West Africa have demonstrated that 95% of confirmed cases have an incubation period in the range of 1 to 21 days; 98% have an incubation period that falls within the 1 to 42 day interval. WHO is therefore confident that detection of no new cases, with active surveillance in place, throughout this 42-day period means that an Ebola outbreak is indeed over."

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/

10/24/2014 9:15:51 AM

Now Mali has a case. I bet they'll be able to keep it contained, especially seeing as how it was a 2 year old, who probably isn't going out and spreading it around.

http://news.yahoo.com/first-case-ebola-confirmed-mali-health-minister-213358361--business.html

10/24/2014 10:02:48 AM

That breaks my heart. Two year old with Ebola and her mother already dead.

10/24/2014 10:14:52 AM

Yea there apparently is a lot of that in Liberia and Guinea. Lots of children orphaned, and they really don't have the facilities to handle them properly, as far as care goes. It is really sad.

10/24/2014 10:38:32 AM

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"My concern now is that the media made so much hype about it a few weeks ago, if it ever does really become an issue, nobody will care since it is out of the 24 hr news cycle now"

and you were (hilariously) Mr. Panic during that time

10/24/2014 11:24:26 AM

I never excluded myself from that statement. I never said I wasn't part of the panic. But I'm still worried, if that makes a difference. We dodged the Bullet and for that I'm greatful, because that hospital really botched things up.

I just hope that incident was enough to get everyone else properly prepared. I doubt it though.

We're still (hilariously) unprepared for anything more than a couple of cases at a time.

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 12:34 PM. Reason : asdfa]

10/24/2014 12:33:01 PM

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"Now Mali has a case. I bet they'll be able to keep it contained, especially seeing as how it was a 2 year old, who probably isn't going out and spreading it around."

I'm pretty sure I heard on NPR today that the baby spent the two days prior to being admitted to the hospital traveling by public transportation from Guinea to Mali while showing symptoms. The damage may already be done if that's the case.

[Edited on October 24, 2014 at 5:15 PM. Reason : l]

10/24/2014 5:14:28 PM

I know when I ride public transportation I make sure to touch babies and their bodily fluids.

10/24/2014 6:19:05 PM

The babies are the most dangerous since the nurses can't resist coddling them. In Sierra Leone, a single baby infected and killed 11 nurses.

10/24/2014 6:37:09 PM

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"Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth... Baby."

10/24/2014 7:09:52 PM

Looks like the baby died. Also reporting more than 44 people exposed, not including the exposure to others on a bus while she had a bloody nose. Poor thing. Can't imagine dying that way.

10/24/2014 9:12:28 PM

Oh man. 44 people will be difficult to contain.

10/24/2014 9:19:52 PM

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[Edited on October 25, 2014 at 5:05 AM. Reason : Wrong thread]

10/25/2014 5:04:43 AM