4/28/2015 3:14:49 PM

Well, i know who im going to be photoshopping onto a Dance Dance Revolution later on tonight...

4/28/2015 3:16:06 PM

Is that Luis Guzman?

4/28/2015 3:19:28 PM

On a more serious note, though the Freddie Gray MURDER had racial elements to it, i think that largely it is a class/SES.

Many of the police in baltimore are black, as are many residents. However, like in every other place in this country, the police are employed to serve the wealthy and middle classes, while going into poor neighborhoods to do dirt

4/28/2015 3:28:09 PM

^^, ^^^
Ah man. Please photoshop his dick in the mashed potatoes

4/28/2015 4:07:26 PM

^^ I don't think the race of the perpetrators matters as much as the clear systemic bias.

I haven't seen too many intelligent folks say that the officers go out with the intention of gunning down a minority...

4/28/2015 5:03:52 PM

Full of shit waiting to releasing information on friday

4/28/2015 5:08:37 PM

That just means no charges or meaningful punishment is coming.

4/28/2015 5:21:16 PM

So being that the mayor and police chief are black I'm kinda confused on the racial aspect some .

4/28/2015 5:47:10 PM

Systemic racism

Its rarely the officials that are racist anyway. Its the system that is racist. Black president and attourney general dont stop the criminal justice system from being racist.

4/28/2015 5:57:27 PM

Quote :

"Full of shit waiting to releasing information on friday"

that has always been the schedule proposed by the Mayor's office; release the findings May 1.

[Edited on April 28, 2015 at 6:08 PM. Reason : and now I need to find another way home. Stupid cops shut down Security Mall in Woodlawn]

4/28/2015 6:00:20 PM

I see tear gas canisters being fired at the crowd. I don't know if this was a result of violent protests, or if this is just trying to disperse crowds in order to enforce the curfew.

4/28/2015 10:30:51 PM

probably just curfew enforcement tonight.

4/28/2015 10:53:44 PM

Perhaps we should turn our attention to the police report due Friday. I do not expect the police report to own up to anything more than the police have already admitted, which is they didnt buckle the guy into the wagon when they carted him off.

If that is all they look at, i dont see any real consequences falling on the officers. That seems easily dismissed with a "oh well, i forgot" or "gee, i thought he was strapped in. Guess not".

Im not sure of the protocol for getting him medical attention when he asked. Anyone?


Now, an autopsy might show something different. An autopsy might show injuries sustained during the take down, which may conflict with police reports that he was arrested without incident.

4/29/2015 1:43:58 PM

At the very least, coming out of this we should see some type of legislation that requires the police to get medical aid if someone being arrested asks for it. I don't see that as being too difficult to implement.

Sure, that is a right that would eventually get abused, if nothing else to delay for a few hours jailtime or something like that, but if the guy thought he needed medical attention, he should have gotten it.

4/29/2015 1:48:02 PM

I think it's hard to make a bright-line rule that requires medical attention when asked. They [the police] should already be asking for medical care in cases where it's warranted. Perhaps calling for more enforcement of this standard is a good place to start.

Unless you err on the side of caution and ask for medical assistance, but charge the person for the medical bills (and warn them they will be charged), then you will also have the problem of people requesting unneeded medical attention, and how many times do you have to listen and request when they're just calling wolf? Obviously not this case, but relevant if you're talking about legislation.


New rumors (which I believe are false) that Gray had a spinal fusion just over a week prior. I highly doubt that. Having assisted someone in recovery immediately after a spinal fusion, you can barely get out of bed to use the bathroom, much less move fluidly or even put on your shoes.

[Edited on April 29, 2015 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2015 2:05:30 PM

There's no way he had spinal surgery a week prior to being up and walking around.

4/29/2015 2:13:43 PM

lol, who could possibly even start a rumor like that? Some right-wing mommy blooger looking to blame Freddie Gray for his own death? What a scumbag.

4/29/2015 2:18:10 PM

It's actually impressive the lengths they went to fabricate the rumor. Three different "news"/blog sources posted almost simultaneously. Even pulled settlement records from a car accident claim. Obviously, they forgot that there may, just possibly, be more than one Freddie Gray in Maryland...

4/29/2015 2:20:44 PM

vaccines killed Freddie Gray

4/29/2015 2:20:57 PM

Probably lead based paint related death:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-freddie-gray-lead-paint-20150423-story.html%23page=1

4/29/2015 2:23:31 PM

Lead paints weakened his spine.





Also, a knee to his backbone

4/29/2015 2:26:30 PM

Because of Baltimore, thug is the new n-word

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/29/us/baltimore-riots-thug-n-word/index.html

Oh, don't mind those teens setting fire to cars and throwing rocks at police...they're just misunderstood, and don't have any other outlet for their frustration. Call them misunderstood children, not thugs.

4/29/2015 3:03:43 PM

New? It's been a replacement for years.

Anyway, I usually call groups of kids rioting and burning shit Mountaineers.

4/29/2015 3:10:37 PM

"so funny your story; i laugh and laugh"

-shoot

4/29/2015 4:01:35 PM

Quote :

"Because of Baltimore, thug is the new n-word "

not "new" at all...

4/29/2015 4:16:06 PM

Quote :

"'Thugs' is the 21st century word for the n-word. And it is repulsive and it is offensive to every person who is a parent trying to raise children interpreting what's taking place in this hour.""

But isn't it [they are acting the way they are] because they haven't been raised by their parents?

4/29/2015 8:13:11 PM

That's funny, Merriam-Webster says "Thug" means "violent criminal".

The people referred to as Thugs were burning cars, breaking into private business, and stealing.

How dare we use a word exactly as it is intended...

4/29/2015 8:26:27 PM

using the word exactly as intended is singling out a certain people

this isnt hard to figure out

4/29/2015 9:25:44 PM

@washingtonpost: Prisoner in police van said Freddie Gray was ‘banging against the walls’ during ride, document states http://t.co/TFjwhKTvaC

I'm gonna wager this won't go over well in Baltimore when it's used to exonerate the officers.

4/29/2015 9:29:53 PM

the cops bribed the prisoner

4/29/2015 9:32:03 PM

I do not know, how a person under their own power, could sever their own spine within the confines of a police wagon.

4/29/2015 9:38:08 PM

weak bones + psychotic break?

how could he do this to himself if they loaded him into the van limp?

[Edited on April 29, 2015 at 9:42 PM. Reason : -]

4/29/2015 9:39:49 PM

Freddie Gray in the police van like



If that was the case why did it take 2 weeks to come out? I smell bullshit.

[Edited on April 29, 2015 at 9:42 PM. Reason : ,]

4/29/2015 9:41:11 PM

^ His family did live in a house with lead paint, which led to a settlement for the family providing monthly checks.

What I mean is, in a probably pretty confined space, how does someone propel themselves against the wall with such force to sever their spine? Given themselves a cut or bruise...sure. You could probably knock yourself out of you tried hard enough. But sever your spine?

[Edited on April 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM. Reason : j]

4/29/2015 9:41:35 PM

Of course he couldn't cause that much damage. But it's not coincidence that was leaked to the Post.

Liking the street fighting on CNN.

4/29/2015 9:47:13 PM

It must be nice to be able to bribe someone to cover your asses. If that story was true, that would have been the first thing they said. No need to do a 2 week "investigation" if you have a witness saying he did it to himself.

No one on this planet has the mind control to slam their head into a wall hard enough to sever their own spine.

Our "justice system" is a damn joke.

[Edited on April 29, 2015 at 9:52 PM. Reason : ,]

4/29/2015 9:50:37 PM

it will be pretty obvious when he isnt charged for whatever he was arrested for

4/29/2015 9:52:03 PM

They will charge him, but the prosecutor will lose the case..on purpose. Prosecutors that prosecute cops don't keep their jobs long....

4/29/2015 9:56:40 PM

from one of the greatest stand-up specials of all time, Dave Chappelle: Killin' Them Softly:

Quote :

"That's that whole brutality thing." See, that's common knowledge then. See there was a time when only minorities really knew about that. I'm not gonna say white people didn't believe us, but you were a little skeptical. You were a little skeptical. I mean, I don't blame you. And then "Newsweek" printed it, and he knew it was true. In the "Newsweek," White people are like: "Oh my God. Honey, did you see this? Apparently, the police have been beating up Negros like hotcakes. It's in the May issue." I mean, really, how could you know, though? How could anyone else know? You know, I mean, maybe you should've seen something a little suspicious. Don't you think it was, like, a little suspicious? A little suspicious, that every dead black person the police finds has crack sprinkled on them? I mean, come on now. Come on, man. Who gets shot and sprinkles crack on themselves? Nobody would do that. Bam! "Oh! oh! I don't wanna leave no mysteries."

it's from 15 years ago and it's as relevant as ever

4/29/2015 10:13:10 PM

At a bare minimum, the cops involved should be charged with negligent homicide. No one has offered any plausible explanation, outside of the police 1) using excessive force, or 2) not securing him into the van properly for transport. Either of those is grounds for negligence at a minimum. Furthermore, whenever a cop kills a citizen and we don't have a clear picture of what happened, the burden of proof should be on the cop, as an agent of the gov't, to prove that he acted properly. Fuck this bullshit where the prosecution refuses to actually prosecute and cops get off with killing civilians. Prove that everything you did was necessary and proper, or else rot in jail. The guy you killed didn't get his trial, so you better explain why he didn't.

4/30/2015 12:05:46 AM

now they have "another inmate" who says he was beating his head on the side of the van and it sounded like he was trying to injure himself


sounds suspicious, could be true though

4/30/2015 1:09:01 AM

Yes there is a 0% chance that this guy gave himself a severed spine. 0%!

Demonic eyed black guy killed himself in the back of a police van instead of going to jail like he had done 10+ times in the past. YEA FUCKING RIGHT.

[Edited on April 30, 2015 at 4:23 AM. Reason : ,]

4/30/2015 4:22:51 AM

He broke his own neck, severed his own spine, and crushed his own voice box. Of all the defenses, I never expected the "he killed himself" defense.

4/30/2015 4:56:29 AM

No offense but pretty easy to get witnesses if you offer deals in jail.

That being said I have seen more than. A hand fu of inmates beating their head against a concrete wall.

But I'm pretty sure the injury we see from that is bashed in forehead not severed spine.

[Edited on April 30, 2015 at 5:06 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2015 5:04:30 AM

what was the supposed other inmate offered for his testimony?

4/30/2015 5:04:49 AM

I'm not saying he was but many think this is something that could be perceived as good behavior without actually narcing on someone.

[Edited on April 30, 2015 at 5:15 AM. Reason : .]

4/30/2015 5:14:44 AM

Don't forget that the commissioner has already been quoted saying that Gray was unresponsive when the other guy was picked up....All they want to do is plant the seed of doubt. Lets say this guy was trying to hurt himself by slamming his head into the wall. Is anyone stupid enough to think he wouldn't crush his face in well before he severed his spine and crushed his own vocal box. Also did the guy that died from the same injuries 10 years ago also kill himself?

[Edited on April 30, 2015 at 6:45 AM. Reason : s]

4/30/2015 6:44:19 AM

If i were Freddie Gray, i would haunt the fuck out of these people telling lies over my corpse.

4/30/2015 6:46:37 AM

here are some thoughts about the police for you guys

police forces in the united states originated from slave patrols organized to return runaway slaves to their masters

the job of the police is now as it has always been: to protect the property of the state and that of the privileged private citizens in positions of power

police are and have always been the mechanic by which the state inflicts force and violence on its own populace for the purpose of protecting the interests of those in power from its own people

do not cooperate with police

do not talk to police

do not call the police

here are some bonus thoughts about peaceful protest for you fucking idiots:

the state has a vested interest in promoting the lie that the most effective forms of protest are peaceful and non-violent

you are taught about king and gandhi and encouraged to follow selective aspects of their example because it makes you easier to control and suppress

when you are being oppressed, you can and should destroy public property and defend yourself against the armed occupiers sent to silence you

burn the flag

smash the state

power is the means to enforce will by causing harm and killing

authority is power that is first given to the state by its people

but the state maintains and extends its authority by using the power given to it against those who gave it

those who give power should be prepared to take it back when necessary

where do you find the individual wills to exercise the state's power? in the fragile skulls of those who wield it against you

what is city hall? a building that burns like any other

[Edited on April 30, 2015 at 6:52 AM. Reason : ///]

4/30/2015 6:52:11 AM