moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/soccer-mom-ordered-to-learn-about-islam-after-pointing-rifle-at-muslim-couple-sitting-in-car/ 2/18/2016 5:24:17 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I did "Jeb bush website" and it wasn't there, still just the 3rd link for me...
[Edited on February 18, 2016 at 5:25 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2016 5:25:27 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
So you couldn't find his site because it was 3rd in the result list? 2/18/2016 5:28:51 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ "It wasn't there"
It's the 3rd link now 2/18/2016 5:33:15 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
It's always been there. It's not like he *just* SEO'd his site back to the top 2/18/2016 5:59:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
3rd result on "Jeb bush website"
Quote : | "“you can’t put the soccer mom in jail with the disabled boyfriend at home.”" |
lol, that's the best part, how she refers to herself in the 3rd person and that too, as "soccer mom".
fuck her. what a bitch.
[Edited on February 18, 2016 at 7:08 PM. Reason : ]2/18/2016 6:57:42 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
the pope just won south carolina for trump. is the pope a trump plant as well? 2/18/2016 7:11:50 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Is SC full of baptist assholes? 2/18/2016 7:38:40 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
I'll post this on Trump from the Huffington Post UK in part because I played rugby with the writer in Raleigh.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/simon-phillipshughes/the-secret-of-trumps-success_b_9239938.html 2/18/2016 8:03:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's always been there. It's not like he *just* SEO'd his site back to the top " |
That is actually how it works... News stories about the fake Jeb bush site would push the real one up as people talk about the real one.2/19/2016 1:32:06 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7TWHj-7ycQ somebodys doing the raping 2/21/2016 4:11:48 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Meet Gene A., retired supervisor at a sugar factory. (Gene was quite comfortable advocating mass murder, but in true coward’s form he didn’t want his last name used, in case his words could be traced back to him.)
What did Gene think about Trump’s calls to “temporarily” bar Muslims from entering the country?
“They’d be happier in their own country where they can pray the way they want. They’re not here in America to do any good. They’re here to do evil.”
Would he expel all Muslims from America?
“Absolutely. You can’t tell the good from the bad, so you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I’d give ’em a choice—a trench on one side or a ticket out of here.”" |
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-hate-behind-donald-trumps-success/2/25/2016 6:47:54 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for that hard hitting piece of news 2/25/2016 6:49:27 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?_r=0 It gets worse:
Quote : | "According to P.P.P., 70 percent of Mr. Trump’s voters in South Carolina wish the Confederate battle flag were still flying on their statehouse grounds. (It was removed last summer less than a month after a mass shooting at a black church in Charleston.) The polling firm says that 38 percent of them wish the South had won the Civil War. Only a quarter of Mr. Rubio’s supporters share that wish, and even fewer of Mr. Kasich’s and Mr. Carson’s do.
Nationally, further analyses of the YouGov data show a similar trend: Nearly 20 percent of Mr. Trump’s voters disagreed with Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves in the Southern states during the Civil War. Only 5 percent of Mr. Rubio’s voters share this view." |
Although seems like a sizeable amount of SC GOPers are pretty racist.2/25/2016 6:53:16 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
It's really tough for me to believe that 20% of any group literally supports slavery. 2/25/2016 6:57:34 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Go to a Trump rally and get back to us.
[Edited on February 25, 2016 at 7:01 PM. Reason : And I'm sure some of that 20% would argue States rights and not pro-slavery etc] 2/25/2016 7:00:33 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^^The question was regarding approval of the executive order issued during the civil war that only freed slaves in the south in rebellion against the federal government. The Emancipation Proclamation was a war strategy by Lincoln, and history teaches it as such. Asking about the approval of a Union war tactic in the state that got burned and pillaged harder than any other state in the South should be expected to cause some controversy. 2/25/2016 10:14:24 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
This is where you all are going to screw up. You're gonna sit around and tell each other that there's no one out there but neo nazi's voting for Trump, that no educated person could possibly throw a vote his way.
I know several college educated individuals who say they are voting for him, and it is all because they want an "outsider" and that Cruz is too conservative and Bernie is too liberal. 2/25/2016 10:24:25 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I'm certainly not going to vote for Trump but it is the most intriguing candidate. Hilary and Rubio wouldn't do shit, just more of the same. Sanders probably couldn't get anything done thanks to congress shutting him down, and Cruz is a fucking lunatic. Trump on the other hand, I could see either getting something actually accomplished due to his utter lack of caring about the usual political tactics and I think he is actually far more centrist than he talks about or he will burning it all to the ground. The probability of the later is what I expect.
What I really want is super delegates to hose Sanders and a contested convention to hose Trump so they both run third party and cause total chaos.
[Edited on February 25, 2016 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .] 2/25/2016 10:30:05 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
assuming that "college educated" = "intelligent" isn't the way to go
plenty of batshit insane people are either in college, graduated college, or are going to go to college 2/25/2016 10:30:31 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I know several college educated individuals who say they are voting for him, and it is all because they want an "outsider" and that Cruz is too conservative and Bernie is too liberal." |
Sounds like you need a new friend group.
[Edited on February 25, 2016 at 11:20 PM. Reason : also lol at Mr. Apoligist In Chief elusis acting like 21st century Americans are 1863 southerners]2/25/2016 11:06:45 PM |
jakis Suspended 1415 Posts user info edit post |
Winning
Trump 2/25/2016 11:08:16 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "assuming that "college educated" = "intelligent" isn't the way to go
plenty of batshit insane people are either in college, graduated college, or are going to go to college
" |
See, look at yourself. You can't get over the fact that you don't think an intelligent person could vote for him. These people I speak of aren't stupid. They're well read, smart people. But for some reason, they're voting for Trump.2/25/2016 11:57:30 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha and somehow you're actually disagreeing with his assessment of [some] college educated people. 2/26/2016 12:11:42 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Apoligist In Chief" |
Quote : | "college educated " |
2/26/2016 12:19:40 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Intelligent people are voting for trump for a simple reason... Every single one of us is disappointed at the politicians we elect in every election. They promise the works yet normally change nothing. Everyone is tired of career politicians to the point that some are willing to roll the dice on a blowhard billionaire. It's an emotional response. And there is not going to be much trump can say at this point that will change that. It is why he continues to say dumb things. It doesn't matter.
I fucking hate Ted cruise. He is the most fake asshole on the entire stage, and I love it when trump poles at him. He is a fake Harvard elitist to the core. 2/26/2016 12:43:21 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Holy fuck. Never woulda picked ^ to be a Trump supporter
And you're wrong about cruise[sic]. Dude is far as fuck from fake. He believes that shit.] 2/26/2016 1:01:01 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's pretty dumb reasoning, but I guess you acknowledge that since you cite it as being purely emotional.
I guess we can't really do anything about people who act on emotion and can't/won't think rationally. 2/26/2016 3:03:14 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I am not a trump supporter. I was a big Christie supporter now support kasich, but I know he won't win.
with that said, however, I will vote for trump. For the record, the last two elections I voted for Obama. I am in the middle of the road, and detest Clinton. 2/26/2016 8:05:45 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I can't get mad at the "fuck Trump but I hate everybody else more" because that's where I'm at with Clinton.
The thing that's annoying to me is listening to people trying to tell me Trump will be a great president. And yes, it's coming from college educated professional people I know, not racist neo-Nazi morons. 2/26/2016 8:28:38 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I have a question about Trump's support. The most common answer on why is that he's the anti-establishment answer and that these people are sick and tired of the "politicians". So then, what is their biggest problem with what all of the current crop of republican politicians have been doing the past 8 years?
They've done their best to railroad just about every policy Obama/democrats have attempted and ended up being fairly successful in their strategy of doing that. What more were the Trump supporters expecting them to be able to do with a democrat president? 2/26/2016 8:49:19 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Gimpy: Trump has been running on a platform that he is a deal maker. That indicates compromise. The reason I would nut punch Ted Cruise is that he came from the entire crop of Tea Baggers that take a 'my way or the highway' attitude on just about everything. That doesn't get jack shit accomplished, because nearly half of the country will never be on his side. I have a real problem with a politician that thinks because he holds a slim majority in the polls, that he/she should hold the country hostage over those beliefs.
Kasich is a good example of someone who knows the realities, and what he can work with. He is just too seasoned in this political climate to do well. For me, Kasich is the most qualified republican candidate we've had in a very very long time.
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 9:55 AM. Reason : .] 2/26/2016 9:54:09 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think that's somewhat sane reasoning I suppose if you also don't really believe the majority of his ridiculous rhetoric regarding Muslims, Mexicans, etc (which I can see as justified)
I'm thinking though that your reasoning for supporting Trump is the minority, with the majority of people falling for all the ridiculous shit I mentioned above. My question is more for THOSE people. Maybe they're two mutually exclusive groups, which is possible, making my question invalid. 2/26/2016 10:04:06 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I give big credit to trump to highlighting two very big areas of concern that would have been virtually untalked about without him. 1) Immigration control and border security and 2) trade deals that benefit virtually everyone except America. I don't agree with the ridiculous rhetoric that has been associated with those two issues, but I do believe there will be positive work done on those two very serious issues. 2/26/2016 10:20:03 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Do you feel that gaining the nomination while using that rhetoric is advantageous to getting deals done with people who oppose him? 2/26/2016 10:27:13 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I think election cycle rhetoric is quickly forgotten. And I think that politicians understand the difference in what is said during the election cycle and after you are elected. There are numerous examples of primary opponents which say pretty ridiculous things about one another, but end up in each others cabinet. It is a game. Trump has just learned to play it very very effectively to get votes.
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 10:49 AM. Reason : .] 2/26/2016 10:46:01 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
What about with the Mexican government or say some few Middle Eastern countries that may happen to follow Islam? 2/26/2016 10:54:49 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
W/r to Mexico... Exactly who do you think is in the driver's seat? Can Mexico afford not to deal with the U.S.? No.
W/R to the Middle East... I'll answer your question with another question. What are your concerns about our relationship with the middle east? Are you concerned our terrific record on mitigating terrorist cells from attacking us in the U.S. or abroad? Did you see Egypt? We fucking supported the Arab Spring, and where did that get us? Obama was a fucking moron in how he handled the entire situation. And last night in the debate, Trump said that while he fully supports Israel, he cannot broker a peace deal without being open minded. You didn't hear the other folks saying that.
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 11:08 AM. Reason : .] 2/26/2016 11:05:21 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I would say we have somewhat positive relationships with some countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey which would be better to remain that way and might not if they're all of a sudden dealing with someone who's basically decided that they're not allowed to come to the US anymore. Is this a likely probability? Maybe not, but what advantage does rhetoric like that give us if we want things from them?
Not to mention he spent a good deal of time last night talking about brokering peace b/w Israel and Palestein. I don't see how any of he says regarding Muslims help him in that position
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 11:15 AM. Reason : asdf] 2/26/2016 11:10:34 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Ok... Let's talk about Saudi Arabia. Another situation where they simply cannot afford to severe their relationship with us, or even strain it. If the U.S. pulled out the military, the Saud family would fall.
I'm not saying that I like some of his speech or word choice. I am just telling you that it just won't matter as much as you think. The U.S. holds most of the cards in just about every situation around the world. And we rarely play them.
Hell, even when we help we are hated. Do you know how many South Koreans hate the American military? Even after they would be in famine without the aid of the U.S.? Yet we spend billions a year protecting their borders with North Korea. The U.S. is going to be hated and disliked no matter what we do.
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 11:19 AM. Reason : .] 2/26/2016 11:16:34 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
If you're basically saying you don't care what Muslims think of us than yeah, I can understand why you wouldn't care about the shit that comes out of his mouth 2/26/2016 11:25:32 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
I'm saying that their opinion of us doesn't pay dividends, and while it would be outstanding for him to tone down the anti-Muslim rhetoric, its not going to keep me up at night because it simple won't change anything. 2/26/2016 11:43:07 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
the "it doesn't matter what he says during the primaries because they're just the primaries" line of thinking is absurd
he's saying them, they're being documented, and the slate doesn't get wiped clean before the general election
it's not like he's a 50 year old talking about the dumb shit he did when he was 19. this is all happening in the same calendar year
it's perfectly ok to say, "fuck this guy. he is dangerous regardless of party" as opposed to talking yourself into him because he's on your team 2/26/2016 11:51:27 AM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the "it doesn't matter what he says during the primaries because they're just the primaries" line of thinking is absurd" |
it really isn't. If that is the case, the budget would have been balanced, social security would have been fixed, drugs would be under control, our economy would have sub 4% unemployment, and the IRS would have been abolished... these are all things that our elected legislature and officials have promised for years, prior to being elected, and they haven't made good on. Politicians lie and exaggerate to get elected. They double talk. I'm not saying Trump is good because he is doing it, but I'm saying that he is no worse than the rest.
The difference is experience. Trump doesn't have the political experience to know when to keep your mouth shut. The others do, to varying degrees.
[Edited on February 26, 2016 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]2/26/2016 12:03:58 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
no, the difference is that Trump refuses to offer any specifics and relies heavily on spewing vile shit
you can't equate failed campaign promises to the shit that comes out of his mouth on a daily basis 2/26/2016 12:09:59 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, but he can make deals 2/26/2016 12:18:02 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Specifics... You mean the stuff that politicians say that they aren't able to implement? 2/26/2016 1:12:36 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
what?
now comes the point in your Trump evolution that you start to think about supporting him since your dude Christie just latched on 2/26/2016 1:18:26 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I'm having a really hard time understanding republicans who will hold their nose and vote for Trump. He's not even a republican! Unless you're a racist and like him because he's "speaking the truth", how can you vote for him in good conscience? Even my father who is one of the most staunchly conservative people I've ever met would rather abstain than vote for Trump. Is it that these people don't take Trump's hateful comments at face value? That he doesn't really mean them? That they're hoping/wishing he's not serious and that he's just saying whatever he can to drum up support? If that's the case, I really don't know what to say. Fuck you? 2/26/2016 1:21:57 PM |
dannyp45 All American 1053 Posts user info edit post |
I equate Donald Trump to the Pirate Captain and yes, I'm nervous that he is going to win....
2/26/2016 1:37:19 PM |