I'm on the face side of the argument.

This team sucks. Which is weird, because it's extremely talented individually.

I'd say we'd be in really good shape bringing this roster back next year minus Smith with Archie coaching it but we all know that wont happen

11/20/2016 4:02:40 AM

Quote :

"This team isn't good and Smith is awful."

Somewhat agree with this. I've been more impressed by Johnson than I have been Smith.

11/20/2016 4:41:32 AM

Replay of the game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305BkYZQAfk

11/20/2016 5:00:39 AM

I like it when DSJ is at the point because he seems to have a better feel for our set offense and feeding the ball down low. But then again, I also like have Johnson at the point because that gives DSJ more opportunities to cut and drive from the wing.

And LOL at this Vine

https://vine.co/v/5T0tv5KrhHX

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 6:32 AM. Reason : dayum son, over 10 years old.]

11/20/2016 6:07:45 AM

It is a shame that we don't have Kapita and Mav for this tournament.

11/20/2016 7:08:38 AM

^^^ Man I love Cylonwolf

11/20/2016 8:17:17 AM

who is it? Is that a TWWer?

11/20/2016 8:50:12 AM

Feel like Ive read someone on here taking credit for it but I cant remember the user.

Sidenote:

Montana lost to Washington State yesterday by 24
Washington State lost to Creighton by 26

37 point loss incoming

11/20/2016 9:29:05 AM

I really want a cat. I am lonely.

11/20/2016 9:43:07 AM

creighton is a 5 point favorite

11/20/2016 9:58:29 AM

Maybe we've just been looking ahead to Creighton the entire season and will show up poised and prepared.

In all seriousness y'all are acting like the team is a flop after 3 games that we won. We haven't been at full strength. I feel like if the 3s start falling it changes everything and how they're going to have to defend us. Not sure why we can't defense. What happened to the illustrious amoeba zone we were gonna run?

11/20/2016 10:27:13 AM

Quote :

" I feel like if the 3s start falling it changes everything and how they're going to have to defend us."

seems like a big "if" though. and i'm not down on the team or anything. but this team just doesn't have the 3 PT threats like teams of the past with Wood or Turner or Lacey. Mav is streaky as we know. Henderson could be a big threat from the outside, but he has yet to show that. and even if he is a threat, none of those guys are as deadly as Wood or Turner. but we do need more consistency from the perimeter.

11/20/2016 10:32:42 AM

if the things you guys said about dsj are true, then he is probably canerous too. no great player would refuse to play with other great players and share. great players want to win. cancers rather get theirs and lose than win sharing. it also makes sense that nc state would attract this type of player. we have to take whoever we can get.

11/20/2016 10:35:17 AM

Mav might be streaky, but he is one of our main threats from 3. So, the fact that he is out has something to with our slump.

11/20/2016 10:48:37 AM

Is he back today?

11/20/2016 11:09:27 AM

Joe Ovies says he doesn't think so

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 11:49 AM. Reason : Autocorrect ]

11/20/2016 11:49:14 AM

Quote :

"who is it? Is that a TWWer?"

No idea, but he's got an awesome library.

11/20/2016 12:18:42 PM

Team looks incredibly disjointed and completely lacks cohesion on offense.

On defense once again we have zero identity. We don't take Anything away which has been our problem for several consecutive years.

I can be a bit negative because I'm used to watching nba teams operate with precision but good God this team is ugly to watch

11/20/2016 1:14:06 PM

Actually we took away the three pretty well from Montana

11/20/2016 1:17:10 PM

11/20/2016 1:21:05 PM

Quote :

"Team looks incredibly disjointed and completely lacks cohesion on offense."

Weird you wouldn't expect that on a team with this many new players.

11/20/2016 1:21:50 PM

I think Gott already said that the earliest Mav would be back is Monday, but here's confirmation:

Quote :

"Jon Rothstein ?@JonRothstein 2h2 hours ago NC State's Maverick Rowan (concussion) will not play tonight versus Creighton, per Mark Gottfried."

11/20/2016 2:10:18 PM

Quote :

"Team looks incredibly disjointed and completely lacks cohesion on offense. On defense once again we have zero identity. We don't take Anything away which has been our problem for several consecutive years. I can be a bit negative because I'm used to watching nba teams operate with precision but good God this team is ugly to watch"

I actually think that our cohesion on offense is pretty good for this time of year. We have three to four different guys that know exactly what to do during transition and there is no hesitation. The pick and roll, especially between Abu and DSJ, already works much better than anything that we had last year. Plus, we still effectively run the high post offense with Dorn and Hendo.

Our defense is as scrappy as it has every been. We clog up the passing lanes and as a result pick off a lot of passes that lead to transition buckets.

Aside from not meeting a couple of high expectations, like DSJ coming out and dropping 30+ every night, I'd say that things are going well.

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ibt drama]

11/20/2016 2:50:58 PM

I hate most of you. That is all.

11/20/2016 3:36:07 PM

we gonna get our asses handed to us tonight

11/20/2016 4:13:32 PM

930 game??

11/20/2016 5:15:13 PM

^8:30 Eastern

11/20/2016 5:50:56 PM

Nah we GOTT this

11/20/2016 6:02:53 PM

Is this on cbs sports again?

11/20/2016 6:49:29 PM

Yeah. Ch 221 on DirecTV

11/20/2016 6:59:17 PM

Channel 315 on Time Warner

11/20/2016 7:00:39 PM

We win this. Gott teams tend to show up against good teams and I think DSJ puts together a nice performance.

11/20/2016 7:02:03 PM

any chance for another stream?

11/20/2016 7:03:18 PM

stream please??

11/20/2016 7:27:00 PM

I'm not normally good at finding these things but

http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-events/basketball/nc-state-vs-creighton-live-stream

If anyone has cox, wow!, frontier communications or optimum Ill pay money for your login/password.

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 7:32 PM. Reason : missed the "f" in if]

11/20/2016 7:31:44 PM

what is this stream2watch and why do they need a debit card # to setup an accnt?

11/20/2016 8:07:46 PM

this one might work come game time
http://ifirstrowus.eu/watch/487302/1/watch-nc-state--vs-22-creighton.html

11/20/2016 8:17:21 PM

Quote :

"If anyone has cox, wow!, frontier communications or optimum Ill pay money for your login/password."

11/20/2016 8:39:28 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV8EwdIte4M

Stream

More just in case

https://www.reddit.com/r/ncaaBBallStreams/comments/5e0p2o/looking_for_nc_state_vs_creighton_at_830/?st=IVRENSII&sh=aae3b408

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 8:40 PM. Reason : .]

11/20/2016 8:39:56 PM

Hell yeah thank you ncsuallday.

11/20/2016 8:41:12 PM

omg this is great thanks!

11/20/2016 8:41:18 PM

Anya isnt even bothering to guard his guy

11/20/2016 8:51:29 PM

Thank you for the links! It's a little laggy on youtube and the volume is SUPER low.

11/20/2016 8:51:43 PM

It's Henderson

11/20/2016 8:52:49 PM

anyas helping and no one ever helps the helper as i was saying the other day. essentially anya is the only one playing d on those plays where his man scored

11/20/2016 8:53:03 PM

Hell yes. Get those 3s

11/20/2016 8:53:11 PM

Anya helping the bench compress. Getting no help.

Has cincy sued over their trademark claw marks yet?

[Edited on November 20, 2016 at 8:56 PM. Reason : ;]

11/20/2016 8:54:15 PM

Entertaining game so far. Can't tell if I feel good or bad about keeping up with this pace.

11/20/2016 9:07:20 PM

ncsuallday you the man (or woman) for that link.....you saved the day, couldn't figure out the other links because of the barrage of adware and BS.

THANKS

11/20/2016 9:09:50 PM

No problem y'all

11/20/2016 9:11:54 PM