LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nobody says he’s better than he used to be. But he’s definitely better than, say, Nathan Peterman who has been given multiple chances. " |
But here is where, and why, I doubt that Kaep actually wants to play football.
You're a NFL GM. You have 2 options for a back-up QB: Kaep has been reported to have asked for $20m/season to play in the NFL/AFL. Peterman who has made $1.2m over 3 seasons in the league and is making $408k this season.
That's an absolute no-brainer. Kaep isn't worth that much money, and frankly I think he knows that. If he really wanted to get into the league, he'd take a one-year deal to prove he can still ball out, instead he makes unrealistic demands. That would make Kaep one of the top 15 paid QBs in the NFL, and NO ONE is paying that.
Quote : | "But...Taysom Hill? Dude has more receptions than career completions. He’s not a viable QB option." |
This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. While I've seen him be a gadget and special teams player and I have no clue on his NFL upside, who knows what his upside is at this point, he had a decent game at QB for the Packers his first year in the league(2 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD). Kaep's agent reportedly reached out to the Saints and they didn't call him back, as they shouldn't. With Brees coming back, Bridgewater being a high-paid back-up, and Hill being on the roster and loved by the coach, there is no reason to sign a guy like Kaep.
Quote : | "He doesn’t even have to be black balled anymore because it’s been so long that teams can rightfully claim that he’s not in playing shape and that there are younger, higher ceiling guys available." |
We agree here. I think Kaep was black-balled his first year, but after that, I think it's been about him not wanting to play and instead his PR/agents spinning that he's still being black-balled. Dude wanted starter money to consider joining a NFL team, that's just silly and tells me he didn't want to get back into football, esp when you partner that with his Nike deal.9/19/2019 4:03:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kaep has been reported to have asked for $20m/season to play in the NFL" |
this is not true
Quote : | "This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. While I've seen him be a gadget and special teams player and I have no clue on his NFL upside, who knows what his upside is at this point" |
can’t be too high if they play him on special teams. he’s also 29 years old.
[Edited on September 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM. Reason : props to Bomani Jones for just bringing up those Hill points on High Noon]9/19/2019 4:07:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. " |
If he was Steve Young he’d be the starter, not Bridgewater. If he was Steve Young, he wouldn’t be a special teams player. He’s not Steve Young. I don’t really care what Sean Payton said.
Quote : | "With Brees coming back, Bridgewater being a high-paid back-up, and Hill being on the roster and loved by the coach, there is no reason to sign a guy like Kaep. " |
I agree and I think I said that in my first post. The Saints don’t have a need for him. It doesn’t sound like the Panthers think Cam will be out long (although I’m cool with sitting him as long as possible to get him healthy), so Kaep probably isn’t a viable option if the Panthers expect Cam to be back in a couple weeks - I don’t even think Cam is officially out for this week. The Jets probably have the strongest case to sign Kaep...Darnold is out for an undefined length of time, Trevor Siemian then got hurt so they’re on QB #3 and just signed some dude named David Fales...a 6th round pick in 2014.
[Edited on September 19, 2019 at 4:36 PM. Reason : A]9/19/2019 4:27:12 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this is not true " |
That is exactly the number quoted when the AAF pursued him. In 2017 he said he'd sign for $10m but needed a chance to start. If you have a starting QB, do you really want Kaep coming in demanding a chance to start? Now not only do you need a specific offense that tailors to Kaep's playing style, have a need at QB without an established starter, but you need to also be willing to make him the highest paid back-up in the league.9/20/2019 9:57:17 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
you said $20 million a year to play in the NFL 9/20/2019 10:59:22 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
nothing surprising, but Cam officially ruled out for Sunday 9/20/2019 4:53:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
i love when i miss TDs because the stupid tv station is at a commercial 9/22/2019 4:38:44 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Lol yes that was weird. "BIG THIRD DOWN COMING UP..." *cuts to commercial*
*commercial ends* "...what a great throw for a touchdown there to tie the game. We'll be back after this. *goes to commercial* 9/22/2019 5:27:50 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
this team sucks ass
allen better not play this well all year or get injured or something so we can get a new coach 9/22/2019 5:43:53 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Donte Jackson is horrible at football. He is fast though, so Ron will keep playing him 9/22/2019 6:00:32 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
Christian McCaffrey is very good at football 9/22/2019 6:10:36 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^^LOL dammit 9/22/2019 6:11:16 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
like this isnt funny we're going to get carried to 7-9 by a backup qb and ron will get a 10 year extension 9/22/2019 6:20:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
this team sucks ass 9/22/2019 6:23:02 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
wild that a healthy QB makes all the difference in the world 9/22/2019 6:37:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Donte Jackson is horrible at football 9/22/2019 6:47:01 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I know, I reverse psychology'd him obviously 9/22/2019 7:43:06 PM |
ClassicMixup All American 3877 Posts user info edit post |
Was Newton on the sideline? I only caught part of the game 9/22/2019 8:16:12 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I’m assuming he didn’t travel with the team. Injured players rarely do, right? 9/22/2019 8:22:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, he stayed in Charlotte 9/22/2019 8:34:05 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Newton was shopping for his next post game lose outfit during the game 9/23/2019 8:22:36 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
^ HAHAHA because he wears funny outfits 9/23/2019 8:39:43 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
So does anyone think Cam will be 'injured' until Allen loses a game? 9/23/2019 12:41:25 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
no, because he is legitimately hurt and needs time to recover, regardless of wins and losses
especially after it looks like he was rushed back after injuring his foot in the preseason 9/23/2019 12:49:52 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
^ correct. 9/23/2019 12:51:01 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
I want Cam back but if he isn't mobile that limits his skill set and what made him a league MVP. 9/23/2019 12:59:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
He's already ruled out for the Houston game this weekend 9/23/2019 1:13:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Lisfranc 9/24/2019 10:39:54 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
GNSP
9/24/2019 10:41:26 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Cam is the football version of Kemba 9/24/2019 10:43:18 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
So if no Surgery is necessary I would think earliest you would want to bring him back is at San Fran after the Bye.
Three more games with Kyle Allen
@Houston - They have a good offense and a pass rush that can take over games their secondary has been suspect.
Jacksonville - They have a backup in as well, formidable defense can't go 0-3 at home
Tampa in London - With a healthy Cam probably would have won that game. Still winnable
If you go 2-1 would be sitting good with a chance at division. Go 1-2 still would have hope for season. Go 0-3 chance at winning season is over send Cam to IR get a good draft pick. 9/24/2019 11:00:12 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
This is some really good stuff
9/26/2019 10:56:18 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Did Kyle Allen go to the combine? He's listed at 6'3 but if I had to guess I'd say he's 6'1
[Edited on September 29, 2019 at 2:04 PM. Reason : maybe he just has super small hands] 9/29/2019 1:46:11 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Eric Reid cannot tackle 9/29/2019 2:07:40 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
^^ don't think so
Yeah, Reid hasn't looked great so far, that sloppy tackle and another miss earlier. Hopefully he'll figure things out today soon 9/29/2019 2:13:47 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Defensive line finally getting pressure today. Now if only Allen could hold onto the ball! 9/29/2019 2:15:33 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Allen is really weird to judge tbh. His arm talent is elite starter level, and he seems to have a decent feel for the game, but he just seems small and the fumble issue is a big problem. Really hope he doesnt end up just good enough for us to commit to (if Cam is more injured that we thought or w/e) but not good enough to be great. 9/29/2019 2:16:28 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
welp
I think we now know how opposing defenses will attack us until Cam gets healthy 9/29/2019 2:53:07 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Allen with the hat trick. Jesus. 9/29/2019 2:53:52 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, and every DE is going to be going for that now as long as he's playing 9/29/2019 2:54:27 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
He's basically jake delhomme, but with fumbles instead of INTs. I could live with him, but he won't win us games on his own 9/29/2019 2:59:32 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, he's played pretty well again today minus the fact that if you touch him he drops the ball 9/29/2019 3:20:15 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
No idea where they found this kicker but hes legit 9/29/2019 3:27:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
he played at Virginia Tech but had some accuracy issues in college 9/29/2019 3:39:48 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
I rescind my Eric Reid comments, that fumble recovery was killer.
But yeah, Allen's ball security issues are concerning 9/29/2019 3:53:55 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Vernon Butler did something finally! 9/29/2019 3:55:05 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
they cant just run 3x here
[Edited on September 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM. Reason : rollout for a short pass out of bounds is bad too] 9/29/2019 3:55:21 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Allen the Magician! 9/29/2019 3:58:31 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, Delhomme never would’ve pulled that off 9/29/2019 4:02:31 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
He doesnt play like Delhomme at all. I actually cant think of a comparison that makes sense. 9/29/2019 4:04:22 PM |