I read reddit on the toilet and Im regular.

9/8/2019 7:08:48 PM

Downtown Raleigh should have a pod cast where he doesn't talk about how much he researches proud boys as to not give them a platform

9/8/2019 7:15:48 PM

If I hate watch Dave Rubin interviews am I helping or hurting?

9/8/2019 7:25:05 PM

unintelligent antifa wannabes like dtownral and rwoody will unironically answer questions like ^this all day long.

9/9/2019 10:15:39 AM

you've got the insults!

9/9/2019 12:45:48 PM

Imagine being such a snowflake that you ask for an opinion about someone and then get triggered by the responses, lol

9/9/2019 1:03:57 PM

imagine being such a cuck that you call people snowflakes

9/9/2019 1:34:31 PM

A guy that does stuff for this American Life did a segment on Alex Jones' background I listened to that.

9/9/2019 2:12:04 PM

Imagine being such a snowflake you call people cucks.

9/9/2019 2:12:23 PM

Still generally positive. Negative views about him not shunning pariah

9/9/2019 2:42:28 PM

After this thread I’m still neutral on Joe Rogan.

9/9/2019 2:53:55 PM

He has interesting guests on sometimes. At this point, his value prop is that he can get big names on and have free-form conversations with them. Sometimes the conversations turn into Joe and the guest talking about some common interest of theirs, e.g. elk hunting, which is not always great, but I think that's the result of having the conversation take its natural course.

He doesn't constantly pander to left-wing shibboleths which is enough to get him bucketed as a Fascist Nazi by the Woke crowd. Depending on the guest's status in society, Joe may not push back as much as he should. Regardless, it's a superior conversation format than anything you'll see on network TV.

[Edited on September 10, 2019 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2019 2:27:19 PM

snap! libs got roasted!

9/10/2019 2:32:09 PM

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"He doesn't constantly pander to left-wing shibboleths which is enough to get him bucketed as a Fascist Nazi by the Woke crowd"

Watch out we got a live one here

9/10/2019 2:40:53 PM

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"He doesn't constantly pander to left-wing shibboleths which is enough to get him bucketed as a Fascist Nazi by the Woke crowd"

I don't think that's right, broseph.

9/10/2019 4:07:39 PM

Wow haven't checked this in awhile but very typical that the free speech crew absolutely loses their shit and puts mad hyperbole when presented with relatively minor criticism. I think ut wants to deplatform me and dtr??

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"unintelligent antifa wannabes like dtownral and rwoody will unironically answer questions like ^this all day long"

Dang sorry didn't know you asked for me by name here but sure I'll bite. I think Rubin is a level beyond Rogan and much more consistently amplifies white nationalists and other such scum. Therefore I consider him to overall "hurt" the national discourse. And would therefore follow, giving him ad revenue also "hurts". A pretty small hurt though. If you are somehow able to watch without giving revenue, thats a different story as long as you are careful. The human brain can turn "hate watch" into interest pretty quickly, I know I've been there.

Anyway I'm off to picket Ulysses Thomas Ownchaski at his house at 1234 Fake St, Doxton NC

9/10/2019 4:15:08 PM

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" it's a superior conversation format tothan anything you'll"

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9/10/2019 5:06:03 PM

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"Dang sorry didn't know you asked for me by name here but sure I'll bite. I think Rubin is a level beyond Rogan and much more consistently amplifies white nationalists and other such scum. Therefore I consider him to overall "hurt" the national discourse. And would therefore follow, giving him ad revenue also "hurts". A pretty small hurt though. If you are somehow able to watch without giving revenue, thats a different story as long as you are careful. The human brain can turn "hate watch" into interest pretty quickly, I know I've been there. "

I’m in slight disagreement here. My own opinions and beliefs are informed and shaped by the opinions and beliefs I oppose. Dave Rubin is a scum human and consistently invites on awful people. Knowing who they are and what they believe is useful to me. If this method turns someone into a nazi well....they were always a nazi.

Rogan I don’t find interesting or controversial and I don’t listen to his interviews.

Also Worrying about ad revenue is pointless. We all go through life providing revenue to reprehensible things. The phone I’m typing on has gold in it some poor kid probably died digging out of the mud. I wish I could avoid that but I can’t call up Tim Cook and ask him to stop.

9/10/2019 6:02:19 PM

Dental damn is apparently a nihilist

9/10/2019 6:58:30 PM

^^fair points. I'd argue that watching a video that directly funds the person is a little different than trying to drill down to every component of an iPhone but I see your point.

9/10/2019 7:09:44 PM

So I can put you down for neutral on Joe?

9/10/2019 7:25:07 PM

Want to watch Zizek lectures with me?

9/10/2019 7:31:24 PM

I'm down can I smoke cloves in your apt still?

9/10/2019 7:48:33 PM

this thread is cancer

9/10/2019 7:57:52 PM

Pretty sure those things are illegal!

9/10/2019 7:58:06 PM

Only to buy not to possess

9/10/2019 8:10:18 PM

mY pHoNE hAs gOLd iN It

9/10/2019 8:46:04 PM

Does that not concern you? Bc it concerns me.

I don’t find it to be funny.

9/10/2019 9:18:30 PM

Clickbait YouTube titles are really harmful. Thanks SEO.

Ben Shapiro EVISCERATES TRIGGERED college girl on racism

9/10/2019 10:43:10 PM

^^ it's weird that your concern for it makes you not have concern for other things

Also, lol at you being concerned given your last post where you clearly dismissed any concern about it

9/10/2019 11:07:12 PM

Maybe a better analogy is seeing a guy force kids to dig up gold, buying the gold from him, and then throwing the gold away bc you hate gold.

There isn't a really a complicated or necessary relationship in this case. Every ad view gives Rubin money and every video view moves the bids up in the algorithms, helping to get more viewers. You watching or not watching isn't gonna make or break but it's be really easy to stop. And only minorly difficult to continue to learn about these figures, perhaps from a source that offers more challenge.

9/10/2019 11:20:50 PM

My bigger concern would be the Geniuses in the Apple Store trying to get me to buy a new Macbook because my other one had a loose connector and they quoted me $1200 to fix it. But that's just another reason I'm PC/Android.

9/10/2019 11:24:46 PM

Finally something we can all agree on: apple sucks!

9/10/2019 11:28:21 PM

Def fuck Apple.

Welcome to the Apple store, why don't you come back in three days and we will fit you in? Oh you're on a contract assignment and can't be out that long? You can buy a MacBook Pro for $2500.

That was the last Mac laptop I'll ever buy.

9/10/2019 11:53:14 PM

buy applecare, dummy

9/11/2019 7:51:59 AM

I think Joe Rogan is a useful idiot in the sense that if someone is a fan of his podcast, there's a good chance they've got some kind of really shitty & dumb idea about life I need to be prepared to learn about.

9/11/2019 8:55:21 AM

^^ there was a class action lawsuit about the issue I had and it was like the day after the normal warranty expired.

I generally go by the insure yourself philosophy on electronics.

9/11/2019 9:11:46 AM

^^ this is my line of thinking. How can I prepare myself for insane shit? By understanding what insane shit will be regurgitate at me.
Avoiding it doesn’t make it disappear.

9/11/2019 9:58:02 AM

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"There must be discussion, to show how experience is to be interpreted. Wrong opinions and practices gradually yield to fact and argument: but facts and arguments, to produce any effect on the mind, must be brought before it. Very few facts are able to tell their own story, without comments to bring out their meaning. The whole strength and value, then, of human judgment, depending on the one property, that it can be set right when it is wrong, reliance can be placed on it only when the means of setting it right are kept constantly at hand."

On Liberty -- John Stuart Mill

[Edited on September 11, 2019 at 10:15 AM. Reason : A]

9/11/2019 10:15:11 AM

^all well and good if you're not dealing with dumb dummies

9/11/2019 10:32:50 AM

John Stuart Mill probably understood podcasts

9/11/2019 10:40:24 AM

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" Wrong opinions and practices gradually yield to fact and argument"

Hence why Donald Trump won the presidential debates and election and became president.

9/11/2019 11:13:49 AM

because none of this is a discussion. the way we do debates and politics isn't discussion, joe rogan isn't discussion, conservative media isn't discussion, etc...

providing an outlet to amplify the message of hateful people, while offering no critical push-back or debate, and then beaming it to thousands of people (millions? how many subscribers does joe rogan have?) is not a discussion. Wrong opinions and practices can't yield to fact and argument when no fact an argument is offered (the next part of the sentence is important here: "facts and arguments, to produce any effect on the mind, must be brought before it"). Joe Rogan isn't offering critical facts and arguments, he is merely amplifying bullshit messages -- John Stuart Mill's statement doesn't apply at all to this context.

[Edited on September 11, 2019 at 11:57 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2019 11:56:30 AM

I got no time for faux-intellectuals

9/11/2019 12:06:58 PM

^^ Save the fact that there has been notable push back--notably the Candice Owens climate change one.

How do you ensure Cletus in Garner who recently lost his job from being swayed into white nationalism? Something tells me that's not a Rogan problem.

[Edited on September 11, 2019 at 12:41 PM. Reason : A]

9/11/2019 12:41:04 PM

Lol, you think Joe Rogan offering a platform to white nationalists helps prevent cletus from being radicalized? Wat

9/11/2019 1:48:00 PM

I don't think Cletus is finding these people on Rogan.

My question is more what's your solution for reducing it? Get rid of Rogan and other long form content so they can listen to Hannity?

9/11/2019 3:11:56 PM

Maybe Rogan could absolutely shit on these people instead of bringing them on for a nominally friendly interview?

Let me ask this: do you think a Jones appearance on Rogan is more likely to decrease his viewership, increase it or have absolutely zero effect?

I'd argue increase is clearly the most likely. Zero effect seems unlikely just bc how many things have no results? A decrease seems unlikely bc Jones fans are already pretty deep down a hole, not sure why Rogan would sway them without some very intense attacks. On the other hand, some portion of the listener ship will have little to no familiarity. Even if Rogan is generally negative to Jones, some ideas and convos will come out and a small percentage of listeners may say "Hmmm interesting. Rogan kinda shat on it but I'd like to hear more." Just by being on the show, he is validated as someone worth listening to.

9/11/2019 3:53:37 PM

I'm not sure why wanting fewer people to rot their brain listening to joe rogan has to solve all the problems, why should ending all radicalism be the goal or metric? Why isnt any small impact to reduce his listeners a net good?

9/11/2019 4:22:28 PM

So what would be your ranking of brain rot to brain growth on a scale of 1 to 10?

9/11/2019 4:39:39 PM