love to find an article from August of 2024 to back my ridiculously flimsy argument in April of 2025

[Edited on April 13, 2025 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2025 4:41:59 PM

^^^ https://news.gallup.com/poll/611375/americans-views-israel-palestinian-authority-down.aspx

^^ Alex possessed Ken. That's why he got the job.

4/13/2025 9:32:07 PM

AOC dialing in her presidential voice/tone

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lmqe2lloms2x

4/13/2025 9:54:14 PM

Quote :

"I'll take violent leftists for $1000 Alex."

This country is literally built on systematic violence and fear. It's why you get quotes like this. Because the systematic violence is normalized to the point where the country doesn't even see it as violence.

But yeah, always on the lookout for those Molotov cocktails vs Jim Crow.

[Edited on April 14, 2025 at 1:12 PM. Reason : the root cause is still the same]

4/14/2025 1:08:50 PM

I guess that justifies burning down sushi restaurants and optometrist offices every time there's a grievance.

4/14/2025 5:09:09 PM

they're just LARPing

4/14/2025 5:26:06 PM

Quote :

"even if they got the VP it's not like the state department, military, or China is going to declare Viking guy legitimate. Not to say delusional people can't be dangerous"

LARPers can be dangerous and disruptive.

4/14/2025 7:12:28 PM

AOC holding steady

Quote :

"?? NEW - 2028 Primary poll ?? Harris 28% (-5) ?? Cory Booker 11% (New) ?? Buttigieg 7% (-3) ?? AOC 7% ?? Walz 5% ?? Newsom 4% (-3) ?? Crockett 3% ?? Shapiro 3% (+1) ?? Whitmer 3% (+1) ?? Pritzker 3% (+1) ?? John Stewart 3% (+2) Echelon #B - 4/14"

4/14/2025 9:44:05 PM

Quote :

"I guess that justifies burning down sushi restaurants and optometrist offices every time there's a grievance."

again, it just reinforces your idea that the state-sponsored violence need to come down even harder

we've had no problem in our history putting humans in bondage and eradicating others methodically or all at once, and there are people who would clearly love to do it again running this joint

stop acting like burning teslas are some how out of pocket or even anti-american when the party that is currently in power's primordial form literally named themselves after the Tea Party and do their best to run brown shirt behavior with zero repercussions. violence is all this country's culture knows, and it's the only thing this country respects, whether that be physical or emotional

all this country does is tell their citizens that you either point the gun or you have the gun pointed at you, and the person that pulls the trigger wins the argument

[Edited on April 15, 2025 at 9:44 AM. Reason : +]

4/15/2025 9:42:14 AM

here's some essential reading for CaelNCSU

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/far-right-terrorism-united-states

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

4/15/2025 2:59:58 PM

He will get AI to read it and then post some irrelevant BS in response.

4/15/2025 7:00:12 PM

^ nah. I've personally experienced and witnessed the left wing tantrums. I'm more interested in what left wing terrorists do today than what some right wing terrorists did in the woods in the 90s.

Quote :

"all this country does is tell their citizens that you either point the gun or you have the gun pointed at you, and the person that pulls the trigger wins the argument "

True. Will be nice if our generation breaks the cycle.

[Edited on April 15, 2025 at 7:53 PM. Reason : A]

4/15/2025 7:52:31 PM

How would you say that's going for our generation?

4/15/2025 8:06:32 PM

Outlier poll but brings us closer to AOC-Buttigieg super ticket

Quote :

"New 2028 Democratic Primary poll Harris 28% Ocasio-Cortez 21% Buttigieg 14% Newsom 6% Shapiro 5% Kelly 4% Pritzker 3% Cuban 3% Whitmer 3% Beshear 3% Yale Youth Poll 4/1-4/3 Sample size of 4100 registered voters "

4/15/2025 8:38:05 PM

please no. holy shit no.

4/15/2025 10:42:38 PM

^
She’s growing more powerful by the day

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lmvjrji3nc2f

4/15/2025 11:26:40 PM

I don't have the answer for how women can overcome this perception, and I appreciate WHAT she is saying, but it feels like she is yelling at me (through her nose). I'm not the kind of person who will let such superficialities inform my vote, but unfortunately the country is full of people who are.

4/16/2025 5:44:18 AM

Quote :

"I'm more interested in what left wing terrorists do today than what some right wing terrorists did in the woods in the 90s."

Any thoughts on the current right wing terrorism committed against the Governor of Pennsylvania this weekend? The attackers webpage is littered with pictures of guns and anti-Biden rhetoric, including a post saying "Biden voters shouldn't exist."

4/16/2025 7:17:43 AM

^ "choose the form of your destructor"

Antisocial personality disorder is real and some antisocials will use whatever to wage destruction (political, religion). The organized variety is more concerning (proud boys, antifa, whatever burned all the cities in 2020).

4/16/2025 7:39:08 AM

As far as I can tell, Antifa is just the right wing boogeyman of the moment. Who actually feels threatened by them except pussy-ass, pearl-clutching, gun-toting Republicans who endorse law enforcement abuse of brown people? They hate the federal government, except when the federal government is doing their dirty work.

4/16/2025 8:39:06 AM

^^^ is he a right wing terrorist, though? Reports are starting to come out that he was motivated by support for gaza...

4/16/2025 8:47:32 AM

He obviously has some mental issues, apparently severe.

Does Cael realize he's not arguing a coherent point?

4/16/2025 9:20:26 AM

^ do you not agree there is a distinction between a lone wolf type and some kind of organized group?

Lone wolf types will always exist but the reasons they use change over time and in different cultures.

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 9:34 AM. Reason : A]

4/16/2025 9:33:26 AM

No. Lone wolf attackers are typically called to action by demagoguery.

It's called stochastic terrorism.

Look bro, if you think Antifa is real then you're fucking retarded.

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 9:57 AM. Reason : - (Joe Rogan tells me we won this word back. Just in time for the country to go full retard.)]

4/16/2025 9:56:05 AM

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"No. Lone wolf attackers are typically called to action by demagoguery. "

If it wasn't demagoguery it would be something else. The media likes to spin individual acts as part of a larger thing "left-wing/right-wing terrorism, video games". The reality is most of them have no friends and couldn't influence someone to give them a decent hair cut.

Two examples of this: Audrey Hale for the right wing boogey man and Dylan Roof for the left wing.

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"Look bro, if you think Antifa is real then you're fucking retarded. "

In 2020 the town I lived in, Santa Monica, was destroyed and tourism today is still down 50% from 2019 highs. I used Antifa for a proxy for "organized left-wing terror campaign that caused mass descrution across dozens of US cities at the same time". Likely the same thing for these recent Tesla protests. Maybe it wasn't antifa/blm/dnc, but it was something organized and it is definitely left-wing. The closest right-wing version was the "unite the right" and Jan 6 (also organized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Alexander).

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 10:09 AM. Reason : a]

4/16/2025 10:06:58 AM

I'm gonna need more details about how Santa Monica was "destroyed"

4/16/2025 10:11:21 AM

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"At the time, police officials said more than 400 people were arrested and more than 150 businesses sustained significant damage. In the 365 days since though, downtown Santa Monica has mostly recovered from the destruction, the Public Safety Reform & Oversight Commission has appointed a Chair, and a 121-page report completed by the OIR Group released earlier this month has described the day as “a wholesale failure.”"

https://smdp.com/news/santa-monica-eyes-change-since-may-31-riots/

Good YouTube review: https://youtu.be/PbxTqyW8yI0?si=H_xc0aHc8xAGL95f


News of the Burbank/Hollywood ones. They were posted and advertised online in advance. Can't remember if this was before or after the SM ones.
https://youtu.be/36PaBrQE5_g?si=YIiC1jeUn4VSWf8K

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 10:46 AM. Reason : A]

4/16/2025 10:35:36 AM

Quote :

"The closest right-wing version was the "unite the right" and Jan 6 (also organized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Alexander). "

Which has been dramatically more deadly and destructive, by orders of magnitude

4/16/2025 10:54:26 AM

^ I don't really see how that's even remotely possible given the 2020 riots were in dozens of cities each with hundreds of damaged properties. That's not including Kenosha.

Quote :

"However, arson, vandalism, and looting that occurred between May 26 and June 8 caused approximately $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally, the highest recorded damage from civil disorder in U.S. history, and surpassing the record set during the 1992 Los Angeles riots."

The Capitol sustained $30 mil in damages for reference. They then tacked on a hundred million in upgrades and added in the cost of the National Guard ($500 mil). In order to add up the impact of the 2020 you'd have to do the math yourself. The $1-2 billion is just insured damages. There are lots of articles about what overtime for police costs ($600 million additional in NY alone).

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 11:11 AM. Reason : A]

4/16/2025 10:59:13 AM

You're confident that was all done by what you describe as "left-wing terrorist"? Because I'm betting a lot of the people doing the rioting and vandalism probably have very little political ideology and couldn't tell you what "left-wing" means.

4/16/2025 11:08:44 AM

^ I'm confident some group, which has organizational skills, ran and campaigns on Twitter and Instagram in advance of the riots. People join in and get opportunistic, that's the point of providing the spark.

4/16/2025 11:14:01 AM

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"I don't really see how that's even remotely possible given the 2020 riots were in dozens of cities each with hundreds of damaged properties. That's not including Kenosha. "

Trump allied with violent protesters to essentially seize the government, tourism is down nationwide about 30% so far (using foreign travel as a proxy), your movement has killed at least 1 person for measles, there’s been at least a dozen deaths recorded overseas with thousands more expected, the economic destruction is on-going, the destruction to medical and scientific research is incalculable, we’ve yet to see the end of the white supremacist policies. They’ve even defunded all the police that go after wealthy people at the irs, sec, cfpb, they’ve defunded the police focused on white supremacist gangs at the fbi.

Meanwhile democrat candidates could barely choke out saying “black lives matter” and they all disavowed defund the police. But let’s say the most extreme of the black lives matter people won somehow, their goal wasn’t destruction like the trump-miller-musk-Yarvin philosophy, their goal was fairness and reform, it would have been much better than what we’re seeing now.

4/16/2025 11:25:20 AM

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"True. Will be nice if our generation breaks the cycle."

It won't, because you're arguing for the cycle to continue as it always has, if not harder.

4/16/2025 11:58:56 AM

Quote :

"Trump allied with violent protesters to essentially seize the government, "

Trump aligned most recently with silicon valley, which previously was heavily leaned towards the democratic party who bit the hand that fed them. Lots of powerful people were willing to jump off team blue.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-apple-monopolizing-smartphone-markets

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/09/biden-administration-google-antitrust-00177843

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"your movement has killed at least 1 person for measles,"

I am not a Mennonite. If you are implying I'm somehow antivax, I'm not that either (I did not take an mRNA vax, some people should). This is another fine example of an event happening and a narrative being attached to it. Mennonites routinely have measles outbreaks. This is not related to RFK.

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" there’s been at least a dozen deaths recorded overseas with thousands more expected, the economic destruction is on-going, the destruction to medical and scientific research is incalculable, we’ve yet to see the end of the white supremacist policies. They’ve even defunded all the police that go after wealthy people at the irs, sec, cfpb, they’ve defunded the police focused on white supremacist gangs at the fbi."

The science community did that to itself. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

When I'm in the gulag for protesting the Iran war that starts WW3 you can laugh at me.

4/16/2025 12:44:17 PM

we're way ahead of you

(and it's at least 2 kids that have died. and here's a story I just happened to see. and this is getting way off topic of this thread https://www.wral.com/story/rfk-jr-s-mixed-message-about-the-measles-outbreaks-draws-criticism-from-health-officials/21962260/)

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 1:28 PM. Reason : ]

4/16/2025 1:24:14 PM

the entire country has been destroyed and my man is wringing his hands about fake ass Antifa

the online organization you're afraid of is some kombucha-making polycule with a graphic designer and someone in online marketing

they aren't terrorists, they're queers

you threw away the country because you are afraid of queers

4/16/2025 4:36:11 PM

^ I was best man at a gay wedding and defended gay people when you could still get your ass kicked for it. Nice try avoiding the billions in damages caused by violent leftists (whatever the fuck you want to call them).

In addition one of my gay friends is a director at Tesla and another gay poster here moved to Texas and voted Trump (as did his husband). No one cares about queers in the new right.

[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 4:49 PM. Reason : A]

4/16/2025 4:48:12 PM

Quote :

"No one cares about queers in the new right."

lol, that really shows how out of touch you are.

4/16/2025 5:02:43 PM

^^ the third Reich was crawling with gays
sounds like it still is

also, I said "queers," not "gays"


[Edited on April 16, 2025 at 5:08 PM. Reason : there's a difference]

4/16/2025 5:07:44 PM

okay, I know this is a waste of time but here goes:

The idea of "Antifa" and a global communist cabal is necessary to contemporary fascism because it is the mechanism by which followers of the cult of fascism are made to feel under attack and, as a result, led to turn off their critical thinking. Here are 14 common features of fascism as identified by Umberto Eco. What parts of this list DON'T sound like the American right?

https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/umberto-ecos-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”

8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”

13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”

14. 9. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

4/16/2025 5:15:20 PM

^^^^
You have completely disconnected from reality at this point. Vance literally today is telling the uk they won’t drop tariffs until the uk terminates protections for the gay community. You seem to be in denial of what Trump stands for.

4/16/2025 5:47:49 PM

Quote :

"CAUSED MASS DESCRUTION"

4/16/2025 11:00:56 PM

Which one is the old white guy? It needs to be that name

4/17/2025 11:38:43 PM

AJAHAAHAHHS ABANANANS BANANAS BANANAS BANANAS

4/18/2025 1:06:20 AM

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/04/18/jd-vance-uk-us-trade-deal-lgbtq/


‘Roll back LGBTQ+ hate speech laws to secure a US trade deal’, UK government reportedly told

4/18/2025 9:54:33 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921

Maybe next they can arrest people for sharing Chappelle Roan.

Quote :

"You have completely disconnected from reality at this point. Vance literally today is telling the uk they won’t drop tariffs until the uk terminates protections for the gay community. You seem to be in denial of what Trump stands for. "

I'm not claiming a majority of gay population is for Trump
Iirc it's about 12%. Between my non representative friend group it's much higher than 12%. There were numerous stories about the religious right being pissed Trump signalled he wouldn't do anything about gay marriage.

[Edited on April 18, 2025 at 10:37 AM. Reason : A]

4/18/2025 10:35:11 AM

Quote :

"Maybe next they can arrest people for sharing Chappelle Roan."

I'd be OK with that one, TBH.

4/18/2025 12:51:09 PM

Can see Van Hollen coming from behind. Seems genuine and has gravitas

4/18/2025 4:52:55 PM

Quote :

"?? New 2028 primary poll ?? Buttigieg 28% ?? Harris 24% ?? AOC 16% ?? Booker 9% ?? Whitmer 9% ?? Newsom 7% ?? Beshear 2% ?? Warnock 2% ?? Murphy 2% Atlasintel #A+ - RV - 4/14 "

Big surge for Buttigieg

Buttigieg AOC super ticket one step closer

4/18/2025 5:18:36 PM

^is that what you desire?

4/18/2025 9:05:01 PM