^ May I borrow $2,315.28 to buy 4 shares of AMD? I will pay you a one-time payout of my earnings from 1 week of gains + your initial $2,315.28.

11/12/2026 1:53:11 PM

At *least* two affairs?!

11/12/2026 2:53:36 PM

I think qntmfred is kinda beating around the bush on what he wants to say, so i'll just say my take on it (either that or thegoodlife3 is not sharp enough to pick up the point)

Jensen is taking the fall so NVIDIA can get nationalized. Trump (honestly, the US Govt) tried it with Intel, but Intel isn't a consequential company anymore

This isn't about Jensen's personal life, about getting compromised, or sleeping with a subordinate. None of that shit matters at all. It just opened a door to take Jensen off the board, and that opportunity may actually have been manufactured in and of itself

this is statecraft and is about the US Govt machine nationalizing NVIDIA as a resource in the AI race against China

This is also the full power of the propaganda machine being brought to bear on one individual in order to manufacture consent for the end result


Jensen is just one of billions of dudes in history who stepped out on their marriage in a moment of opportunity and weakness. Doesn't make him any less human than those other folks, doesn't make him not a piece of shit to his wife, doesn't make a lick of difference to any of the rest of us


This is kinda why some cultures used to entrust state secrets to eunuchs in the past

[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

11/12/2026 3:02:53 PM

Why didn't he just say that?

But I thought Republicans were going to end all the isms?

Fascism, socialism, communism. What you describe would be one or more of those, so it certainly can't be true.

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"May I borrow $2,315.28 to buy 4 shares of AMD? I will pay you a one-time payout of my earnings from 1 week of gains + your initial $2,315.28."

I like you, but. . .

11/12/2026 3:34:49 PM

Three affairs
ah ha ha

11/12/2026 3:36:46 PM

Now do Trump!

11/12/2026 3:38:49 PM

If the government wanted Nvidia, sitting on a known security risk for a year would be a strange way to get it. Methinks the more likely explanation is simpler: someone powerful decided to look the other way (Trump), and a billionaire assumed the rules didn't apply to him.

11/12/2026 3:44:16 PM

I wish nvidia would come out with another shield product but i guess its not profitable for them

11/12/2026 3:50:35 PM

^^ it can be both. There are other forces within the government that are longer-lasting than Trump.


Not to be all "DEEP STATE QUBEANON" about it.


also, I'll point out that the govt couldn't take a public stake in NVDA like they did with Intel without the stock tanking. They couldn't do that production act thing either, without it tanking. So what's the best way to get what they want without getting their hands dirty? Make it seem like it's Jensen's fault. That's why they'd sit on the affair info for so long. People have been talking about it since early this year, whenever it was that he signed her boobs.

[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 4:04 PM. Reason : . shit stinks of some cia long term shit]

11/12/2026 3:56:39 PM

The other conspiracy theory is since Jensen was the largest proponent of opensource AI models that the AI companies publicized this and got him out.

11/12/2026 4:04:27 PM

I'm a go with Occam's razor on this one, but it'll be interesting to see what happens.

11/12/2026 4:06:01 PM

^^ I think that factors in, for sure. i saw someone mention that Anthropic was able to port CUDA to AMD hardware? didn't dig into it, but honestly porting shit to run elsewhere is one thing that erodes NVIDIA's grip right away. Fable 5.2 has been writing machine-level code that's on par with things that took years to build with frameworks. It's not outside the realm of possibility for me to think it's all intertwined.

[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM. Reason : . ]

11/12/2026 4:23:18 PM

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" I'm a go with Occam's razor on this one, but it'll be interesting to see what happens."

11/12/2026 4:50:05 PM

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"I think qntmfred is kinda beating around the bush on what he wants to say"

the most direct formulation of what I want to say is

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"I'm saying it's an obvious political hitjob blackmail is corrosive to society. this is my primary concern."

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"this is statecraft and is about the US Govt machine nationalizing NVIDIA as a resource in the AI race against China This is also the full power of the propaganda machine being brought to bear on one individual in order to manufacture consent for the end result"

this is also a fair representation of my essential viewpoint. although rather than nationalizing in the more literal sense, the government wants to use its regulatory authority (with threat of personal blackmail to any individuals like Jensen who may stand in their way). it's more about power than stealing a financial stake in the company.

I don't know if it's the Trump Admin pulling these punches (they're certainly not strangers to bullying corporations), Dem leadership preparing to take power (they're certainly not strangers to bullying corporations), Anthropic trying to protect their market in the midst of their IPO, Chinese sabotage, or what. Could be a little of each. But the media got these stories from someone(s) with a certain agenda, and that's what I want to know. time will tell, I suspect.

like i've said, i don't care about his dick. i do care about the trajectory of the most important technology of this era, government power, the integrity of the media, and most importantly of all uwu the ability of my thewolfweb.com friends to not get mindfucked by those who are better at pulling the levers of the human psyche than they are.

[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 5:05 PM. Reason : i do also care whether or not he knowingly or unknowingly sold Blackwells to China and if so how/why]

11/12/2026 5:03:04 PM

we're on the same page


I think it's fair enough to say that while none of us can pin down exactly what the exact distribution of forces are behind this, the shit stinks

11/12/2026 5:23:02 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/speaker-johnson-says-congress-developing-consensus-limiting-chip-exports-china-2026-11-12/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-11-12/openai-joins-groundswell-of-support-for-ai-chip-control-measures

[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 6:08 PM. Reason : the game is afoot]

11/12/2026 6:07:36 PM

lol i gotta find that site that tells us where we are on the AI 2027 timeline again

damn i guess they're keeping track themselves now:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/f9PajMLmBYzmWzyDv/q3-5-timelines-update-looks-like-the-intelligence-explosion


[Edited on November 12, 2026 at 7:29 PM. Reason : . need an update for the whole state actor / nationalized AI thing tho]

11/12/2026 7:25:32 PM

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"If he was banging some non-spy this wouldn't be a story at all"

To be fair, he was banging some non-spies as well

11/12/2026 9:54:11 PM

Look, I didnt care when he fucked that spy. I get it. I would fall for it, too, probably. Tough to resist a motivated professional manipulator set on making a person feel important.

But what I cant excuse is the affair with his subordinate. That's off limits. Only bang your peers

11/12/2026 11:10:36 PM

Don't dip your pen in company ink

11/12/2026 11:13:23 PM

Only bang your subordinates if you brought enough for the whole class

11/13/2026 7:29:06 AM

Don't get your money and your honey from the same place.

11/13/2026 7:29:50 AM

senior and C-level management is often less of a subordinate (manager-worker) position and more of a peer relationship. If a quarterback wants to fuck the tight end who cares

[Edited on November 13, 2026 at 7:35 AM. Reason : also, the "obliviously" a spy narrative is falling apart. jensen wasn't the only one who got got]

11/13/2026 7:34:09 AM

come on, man

11/13/2026 7:42:16 AM

there's a difference between cultural norms, corporate policy and law. there are reasonable explanations for how and why those things develop in the varied ways they do across time and place, and why they do not always map cleanly to the reality of the human experience.

11/13/2026 8:32:58 AM

one thing i appreciate about that guy qntmken is that he's always gonna make sure you're respecting the goddamned nuance of a situation


shits never black and white, brev

11/13/2026 9:46:53 AM

My issue is how “honesty” always shows up on every corporations list of values in some shape or form. Just walk the walk dude.

11/13/2026 9:53:10 AM

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"I've been around the block long enough to know that I should be suspicious of anyone who wants to have an affair with me"

lol, this. I'm only 43 (compared to this guy who looks like he is prob in his 60s). If some attractive young woman was even remotely interested in me romantically, my immediate thought would at least be "this is a prank of some kind" followed by suspicions of a spy (because of my line of work). I would immediately be suspicious and in no way think she was actually into me.

Now admittedly this guy is rich, so he could have thought she just found his bank account attractive, but even then he should be suspicious enough to be more careful than this.

11/13/2026 11:07:08 AM

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"Just walk the walk dude."

Agreed. Plenty of public figures make no secret about getting laid. Just own it.

my guess (hope?) is the wife knew and was ok with what was going on (and hopefully doing the same if she wanted) but was less interested in her life/marriage being a matter of public record/speculation/judgement and so they approached their marital agreements with discretion.

hence my focus on people not getting fixated on obsolete religious-based approaches to marriage, relationships and sex

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"puritan views on sexual relationships between consenting adult humans are being leveraged by people who want to oust jensen for international business and geopolitics reasons. it's an effective PR weapon. aka blackmail."

[Edited on November 13, 2026 at 11:18 AM. Reason : hopefully wifey isn't feeling the brunt of this but you never know. maybe she's still puritan]

[Edited on November 13, 2026 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ^ i hope when i'm in my 60s i'm still operating at a level sufficient to generate a few sparks here and there. and by that i mostly mean mental connection (which if I had to guess is a non-trivial dimension of jensen's extramarital relations) not just physical]

11/13/2026 11:11:38 AM

Yeah dude its hard enough with my hand now a days i can't imagine being in my 60's

11/13/2026 11:57:11 AM

fwiw

11/13/2026 5:08:45 PM

Now he has a lot more time for global penis goofin'!

11/13/2026 6:55:54 PM

Ya know, I work in a Fortune 500 tech environment as a manager and, in my day-to-day, I work with a lot of senior staff including the C-Suite and VPs. I also have direct reports myself.

The culture I work in would not condone an affair taking place between a senior leader (or a leader of any kind) and their direct report. It's 100% inappropriate because of the power differential. There is no way to know whether the relationship was coercive or not, consciously or unconsciously. It's a violation of trust between the associate and the leader and it is indicative of a dangerous and poisonous workplace culture.

Right now I'm thinking of a specific instance of a case somewhat similar to Huang's in my organization and the solution was swift termination.

I don't think I could, morally, work in a place that was casual about relationships that involve a power differential. You may as well condone professors having sex with their students, at that point.

Also, I am not a prude nor am I a judgmental moralizer. It's just wrong to have sex with someone you are charged with leading because they cannot consent to the relationship.

11/14/2026 9:53:42 AM

you're denying people agency

[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 10:41 AM. Reason : it's dehumanizing. consent IS possible. disclosure is typically the remedy but even that isn't a fits-all solution]

[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 10:43 AM. Reason : we've take power dynamic injustice theory too far. time for the pendulum to swing back toward reality a bit]

[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 10:44 AM. Reason : it's not 100% it's not 0%. companies generally just don't want the legal exposure on the nuances of personal freedom so they enforce blanket policies. it's understandable, but it's not the entire story]

[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 10:47 AM. Reason : swing]

11/14/2026 10:41:08 AM

Snewf is right. It's a very straightforward ethical question. You should be embarrassed that this is not plain to you.

11/14/2026 1:28:47 PM

It might consensual, but making that choice remains an ethical failing. If you want to step out on your wife with a subordinate employee, resign and have at it. In that order.

11/14/2026 1:42:08 PM

you and snewf are entitled to your ethics, I am entitled to mine. I'm way too grown to be swayed by church lady shamebullying though.

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"there's a difference between cultural norms, corporate policy and law. there are reasonable explanations for how and why those things develop in the varied ways they do across time and place, and why they do not always map cleanly to the reality of the human experience."

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/30333717261425253
https://www.shrm.org/about/press-room/shhh---it-s-a-secret--shrm-s-annual-research-finds-most-employee
https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/corporate-wellness/who-killed-the-office-romance-researchers-have-a-few-suspects/582828
https://www.bustle.com/life/office-relationships-workplace-affairs-hookups-dating-a-coworker-hr-rules
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/return-to-office-workplace-romance/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/02/13/workplace-romance-office-pandemic-hybrid/

I met punchmonk when we worked together. I don't think it was unethical that our friendship turned into romance.
Later when we were married and I was a store manager, I hired her as a floor worker. I don't think that was unethical either.
Now that we're not together and I'm married to somebody else, I've wanted to hire her for positions I was hoping to hire for. I don't think that'd be unethical either.

companies have the right to establish their own corporate policy based on their own liability risk tolerance, but I'm not going to pretend that people meeting at work is so beyond the pale, especially when the data shows it's an incredibly common experience.

but as far as personal ethics goes, I say

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"leave people the fuck alone and let them live the lives they want to live"

11/14/2026 1:59:06 PM

No one is talking about coworkers at the same level or in different reporting structures.

At all.

Why are you refusing to apply any standard of ethics to a global CEO?

This was extremely irresponsible behavior by a leader. It came out. He took the fall (along with many billions of dollars of market valuation). That's how it goes.

I'm struggling to understand what was unfair about this. He was / is a human. He was weak. He was too weak to continue in that role and enjoy the status and responsibility it confers.

11/14/2026 2:22:26 PM

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"refusing to apply any standard of ethics to a global CEO"

who said any? I am applying a standard of ethics to him. just not the one that most people are focused on or the one(s) that people are trying to smear him with to justify his ousting.

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"This was extremely irresponsible behavior by a leader."

I don't disagree. I responded with agreement on page 1 to "not smart enough to realize the PR disaster if this came out"

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"struggling to understand what was unfair about this"

it's unfair in the sense that his "irresponsible behavior" is being used primarily for geopolitical purposes and not out of some sense of duty to unshakeable corporate or personal ethics. it's unfair in the sense that if we didn't have so much church lady ethics running civilization, this wouldn't have been as useful a vector for [whoever tbd] to cause whatever civilizational damage may come from all this.

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"That's how it goes."

yup. but the better world is still possible.

[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 2:34 PM. Reason : if we work to dismantle church lady ethics and let people just lih]

11/14/2026 2:33:44 PM

Ages ago when I worked with Lockheed Martin, the CEO was Robert Stevens. It was well known that Stevens was retiring soon and his next in line, Chris Kubasik, was to take his place.

Well, Chris Kubasik's dong had other ideas. He was found to be diddling his subordinate. He was promptly fired. That's just something that you don't do in the corporate world, and everyone knows this. No matter how high up in the company you may be.


lol, looks like Kubasik was fired by L3Harris over inappropriate conduct. I wonder what that guy did this time ..he obvious doesn't learn his lesson.



[Edited on November 14, 2026 at 2:40 PM. Reason : L3harris]

11/14/2026 2:38:01 PM

I just hope Jensen Huang and family can still have a Happy Thanksgiving!

11/14/2026 3:11:57 PM

Me, hanging out with polyamorous, sex positive Burning Man people, I guess.

11/14/2026 3:25:37 PM

Isn't that special?!

11/14/2026 3:26:37 PM

The Coz said:

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"Why are you refusing to apply any standard of ethics to a global CEO?"

If you haven't noticed, qntmfred has a long history of holding stupid and occasionally inhumane ideas. Being charitable, he is a stupid smart person. He seems to lack theory of mind and has a love for authority. He's a dope incapable of meaningfully critiquing power, and he's a rube you can lead by the nose as long as you talk any kind of tech utopia bullshit.

11/14/2026 3:27:20 PM

I mean, it's never okay to have sex with someone whose workplace performance is evaluated by you and whose continued employment is contingent on your evaluation. That's not me being a prude. There's no ethical way to conduct a relationship that way.

I've found myself in sticky situations, too. There was a period of time where I was VP of an organization and serving on the board to which my wife reported. I was, simultaneously, also in an auxiliary role where I was her direct report. It was untenable. I wrote an account of how this situation created multiple conflicts of interest and corrected the conflicts by removing myself from both roles. Lesson learned -- I won't find myself in a pickle like that again.

11/14/2026 3:35:37 PM

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"it's never okay"

this is the (absolutist moralizing) church lady talk. you may be cool with polyamorous, sex positive individuals, but if they were all CEOs and billionaires, I suspect your tune might change. your devil is the powerful.

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"a stupid smart person"

i acknowledge there's probably some truth here. the rest is clearly incorrect

11/14/2026 3:59:58 PM