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6/26/2007 3:58:06 PM

Lokken
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"How well does WoW run on Vista? "


I havent noticed any difference in performance between vista and windows 2000 which is what i was running it on before.

6/26/2007 3:59:06 PM

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6/26/2007 4:00:20 PM

Novicane
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http://www.wowdigger.com/

6/26/2007 4:12:35 PM

God
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heh... people trying to cash out on the wowhead.com purchase

6/26/2007 4:23:14 PM

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"Are you in a horde guild on Cho'gall? My roommate is in Trauma. His name is Akidao. You should talk to him about possibly switching, they've downed Void Reaver, Lurker and I think Morogrim."


nah, i'm a draenei shammy in VANQUISH super squirrels, alliance side.

6/26/2007 4:37:07 PM

ssclark
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no druid anymore eh ?

6/26/2007 4:43:47 PM

God
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Anyone have a 60-70 horde paladin they want to trade?

6/26/2007 4:52:07 PM

Novicane
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guy on my server might be selling his pally. Epic'd out.

6/26/2007 4:58:07 PM

DamnStraight
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i wonder, are there any ways of approximating the value of a character if i wanted to "sell my time" lol

6/26/2007 5:33:03 PM

dubcaps
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wtb twin blades of azzinoth http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32837

6/26/2007 5:53:10 PM

God
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^^^ get this dude in touch with me

6/26/2007 7:08:17 PM

ssclark
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anyone trade my horde hunter with great pve and pvp gear and duelist title ! for any warlock level 60 +

[Edited on June 26, 2007 at 10:31 PM. Reason : y]

6/26/2007 10:31:20 PM

Grandmaster
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who wants a mage =\

6/27/2007 2:53:45 AM

ssclark
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hordE?

6/27/2007 3:05:20 AM

Grandmaster
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yeah, pvp transferable. prolly wont offer anywhere close to what i paid though =\

6/27/2007 3:38:12 AM

ssclark
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"anyone trade my horde hunter with great pve and pvp gear and duelist title ! for any warlock level 60 +"

6/27/2007 3:51:42 AM

SkankinMonky
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respecced to combat swords last night after i got my arena 2 sword! now i just have to get nethers for my tier 2 BS sword

6/27/2007 7:19:05 AM

HockeyRoman
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I have 2200 arena points and someone said the vendor was MIA so I went to play my little fire mage. I am not even sure what to get since mages got dicked over with season 2 gear anyways and looks like ass.

6/27/2007 7:23:12 AM

CalledToArms
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season 2 staff? wand?

6/27/2007 7:44:18 AM

ssclark
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vendor isnt MIA it's just back in netherstorm

6/27/2007 7:59:43 AM

datman
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nerds

6/27/2007 9:20:13 AM

SandSanta
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Gronke

FYI- Ret paladins have even LESS of a place in raids then ench shamans.

I think you should just get a warlock or mage and stop pretending to be a half assed healer.

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason : AMIRITE]

6/27/2007 10:53:08 AM

soulfire963
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spec elemental. leet dps, and casters love you for ToW and WoA totems, and the healers love you for being able to help heal half decently.

6/27/2007 10:56:21 AM

SandSanta
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Even ench shamans are cool dps its just that our raid doesnt take any .

6/27/2007 10:58:32 AM

Doss2k
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Didn't everyone server transfer or something?

6/27/2007 10:59:26 AM

CalledToArms
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with good gear (ie on par with everyone else you are raiding with) both elemental shamans and enhancement shamans can do very good, competitive damage.

6/27/2007 11:01:46 AM

SandSanta
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Well gronke skipped out in like 4 kara clearing raids and as a result missed all the weapon/hunter drops.

6/27/2007 11:03:10 AM

Nashattack
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so.. can i join you guys over there? i'm tired of not having a guild to raid with over here... I'll pay to catch up with you guys... I'm 61 now

6/27/2007 11:26:32 AM

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Yea thats up to you. I got your IM and I'm a bit hesitant to say YAY COME ON OVAR! as its hard enough getting my RL friends who play abundant classes into raids.

If only our shaman hadn't de'd all his healing gear . There were only two in the raid last night, one after half of it.

6/27/2007 11:31:20 AM

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hybrids are a necessity in making bc raids much less of a gear check. 1 feral druid, 1 enh and 1 ele shaman, a couple bm/surv hunters, and definitely a shadow priest, a ret pally if you got one with enough gear to deal quasi-decent damage. having someone to refresh all those judgements in a pally heavy raid is fuckin clutch and a half. the first time we had one I was CONSTANTLY overhealed by seal of light on just about every fight. also, in accordance with blizz tradition you need an assload of locks for about half the fights. mag, hydross, tidewalker, aran, nightbane, etc. seed of corruption is just too powerful, as is their crowd control.

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 12:11 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2007 12:10:19 PM

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there is no amount of gear present in this game that makes having a ret pally worth it....


they do terrible dps until they get geared through the eyeballs ... and when they do they hit the aggro ceiling faster than enh shamans.


dont go through the heartache of trying ot make a ret pally work

6/27/2007 12:15:31 PM

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"FYI- Ret paladins have even LESS of a place in raids then ench shamans."


heh, thanks but I wasn't looking to go ret. 0/61/0 babyyyy.

6/27/2007 12:47:49 PM

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Yea pretty much ignore anything smoothcrim says as 90% of it is worthless.

Ret paladins are terrible and prot paladins are a sick joke.

Yea you can generate threat and have decent tanking stats but you'll always be at a HP disadvantage to a comparably geared warrior and lack a lot of their utility.

You'll be able to grind like a mad man though, so you can be rich.

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 12:57 PM. Reason : ..]

6/27/2007 12:55:56 PM

ssclark
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leveling my pally prot and it's glorious

6/27/2007 1:05:09 PM

SandSanta
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Prot leveling is super fast. Wait till you get reckoning.

6/27/2007 1:05:43 PM

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Oh and FYI, blue post:

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"Hello again, I just wanted to let you know that the developers have taken part of your suggestions, and are looking into improving the retribution paladin spec. You can probably expect something along the line of more sustained DPS in a raid and more raid utility, but we are not ready to reveal any details. This is still work in progress, so please be patient "


http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285172648&sid=1&pageNo=25#482

6/27/2007 1:25:20 PM

SandSanta
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Yea they really need to change Ret as its the lowest DPS spec of any class in the game currently.

However, that doesn't change the fact that you should be playing a pure dps class since you hate healing. Can you give a solid reason why you keep trying all these retarded off specs rather then getting a Warrior, rogue, warlock, or mage?

6/27/2007 1:31:48 PM

ssclark
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110415015&pageNo=1&sid=1#13


our current stance is that we will not action players who are actively at their keyboard yet not really doing much else "


im 43 on my pally btw ... reckoning, holy shield, the works. it's fantastic



they've said they were looking into ret dps every single patch for the last year... mostly to placate the ret guys, only to not do it and then say ... oh yah, um ... we're looking into it

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .]

6/27/2007 1:32:16 PM

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^^

If I had access to an account (like Rob's maybe) I'd consider sticking on it. I dunno. It's fun to play something unique and not a cookie cutter class. Considering 6% of all 70 characters are Shamans (according to Wowcensus) I'm betting like 1/6th of those are enhancement which means I'm in a very small minority and that's cool when I can still kick ass.

Oh, and this is surprising:

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"Q: Some Points were brought up about tuning shamans in upcoming patches, but very little specifics were given...is there anything that can be elaborated on at all?

Kalgan: We do plan to do some more refinement of the shaman class in an upcoming patch. That being said, we're starting to settle in on a pretty good spot for elemental and resto specs. By and large it's the enhancement spec that we'd like to see become more than "just" a leveling spec (same can be said for the paladin retribution spec)."

6/27/2007 1:36:26 PM

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Yea I can see you're enamored with the idea of being original. Even geared with the best ench gear possible, your dps is capped by your inability to shed threat effectively thats going to ultimately let every other pure dps class thats just as well geared out dps you with less effort.

Pure DPS classes will always have the most dps potential. If you get a kick out o being the cute shaman with a hammer, then hey ok. Whatever. I personally don't think spending a week looking for a group is fun

ssclark is right. This is the third version of pallytank and 2.5 version of retdps and they both still suck. Maybe one day they'll make Ret paladins a flavor of the month, but my inclination is that they'll nerf holy a lot and then buff ret a little bit and call it baked.

[Edited on June 27, 2007 at 1:47 PM. Reason : and ill be right there with you bitching about not getting groups.]

6/27/2007 1:46:50 PM

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"Thank you for playing World of Warcraft, and we hope you enjoyed your stay in Azeroth. All credit card information has been removed from the account as of June 27, 2007 11:48 AM PDT, so no further billing will be processed on this account unless payment information is manually re-entered. Your account will remain accessible for play until July 7, 2007 9:42 PM PDT, when the remaining pre-paid time expires."


6/27/2007 2:51:46 PM

SandSanta
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You're dead to me.

6/27/2007 3:20:57 PM

Sayer
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you'll come back...

they always come back

6/27/2007 5:02:07 PM

Grandmaster
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prolly will.

6/27/2007 5:07:44 PM

Novicane
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you'll come back...

they always come back
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6/27/2007 5:26:22 PM

GraniteBalls
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you'll come back...

they always come back

6/27/2007 5:27:33 PM

DamnStraight
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any good ally guilds need a well geared feral druid
its either xfer, retire the druid, or just stop raiding (which sounds like the best option)

6/27/2007 5:35:24 PM

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"It's fun to play something unique and not a cookie cutter class."


Just say that the next time you meet an Affliction Warlock with Improved Curse of Weakness, Cataclysm, and Improved Health Funnel. Don't confuse being unique with being stupid. That 5-man oomkin team that would moonfire-1-shot anyone was pretty funny; but I wouldn't want them in my raid.

6/27/2007 5:46:14 PM

HockeyRoman
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^^ Just play the shammy for a bit or come back to the horde side. You will miss your dr00d eventually and go back to him. Just give it some time.

6/27/2007 6:12:16 PM

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