Quote :

"DeQuan Jones is fucking terrible this is a good thing for Miami."

which makes it hilarious that Shapiro paid him $10k to commit.

[Edited on November 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM. Reason : .]

11/23/2011 12:04:59 AM

SO

FUCKING

CREDIBLE

11/30/2011 8:06:12 PM

Gottfried is a poor man's Calipari. Great recruiter, solid coach, maybe a bit shady, and he even has a hot blonde wife. Hell, they look alike.

All he needs is a badass personal website.

11/30/2011 8:11:21 PM

call me naive, but putting gottfried in the same sentence as calipari when it comes to shadiness is ridiculous

11/30/2011 8:16:10 PM

Well, I did say "poor man's".

But you're right. Gottfried may or may not have banged a coed at Alabama. Calipari leaves major infractions as parting gifts.

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM. Reason : 2]

11/30/2011 8:21:53 PM

Win or lose this game, we look like a competent basketball team and that's awesome.

11/30/2011 8:46:04 PM

He's a great coach

But he's 10x a better person

11/30/2011 8:50:58 PM

Good to know, Herb.

Has he been chopping wood?

11/30/2011 8:53:20 PM

Has he been playing in daytight compartments?

11/30/2011 8:53:52 PM

gottfried is credible

our dumbass players still need some work though

11/30/2011 9:19:40 PM

Credible

CJ Leslie's jump shot is not though

11/30/2011 9:26:03 PM

perimeter defense fucking blows. everything else is great.

11/30/2011 9:26:32 PM

So do we know why wood didn't touch the ball in the second half? Is he too stupid to move without the ball or is our coach too stupid to tell him to do that?

11/30/2011 9:26:46 PM

Leslie and Painter took way too many 20 footers, those are wasted possessions. We might as well turn the ball over.

11/30/2011 9:28:31 PM

^^they were all over him in the second half

11/30/2011 9:32:05 PM

Painter certainly needs to shoot less

11/30/2011 9:33:52 PM

^^ you don't watch games do you? Painter has a nice jump shot this year.

11/30/2011 9:35:20 PM

The losses still hurt the same, but it is nice to feel like we are on the right track!

VERY VERY CREDIBLE!

11/30/2011 9:37:05 PM

Having to get held back by another coach because a ref called a bs flagrant on your player?
+1 Credible.

/I like my coaches to be fiery on the court.

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM. Reason : /]

11/30/2011 9:39:18 PM

We got outscored by 18 in the last 7:30. Let's not start sucking each others dicks just yet.

11/30/2011 9:52:06 PM

did you watch the game or just read the box score?

11/30/2011 9:52:53 PM

Why are you bashing me for pointing out we had a collapse of Sendekian proportions?

We looked like shit for the 1st 10 min and the last 7 against a mediocre team. Should have won this game. Don't get the suck-fest.

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 9:59 PM. Reason : a]

11/30/2011 9:57:15 PM

where was the bashing?

11/30/2011 9:57:58 PM

i like em

11/30/2011 10:05:06 PM

Gottfried is not the problem and was not tonight. Indiana is a really good team. Still, I think we are better. I think the players blew the moments to control the game. Actually I know they did. Missed dunks, fast breaks, free throws, stepping out to guard that little white guy down 1 with ~1 minute to play. Just stupid shit.

Very credible and will continue to be.

11/30/2011 10:05:57 PM

Quote :

"We looked like shit for the 1st 10 min and the last 7 against a mediocre team."

granted we started out like shit and had some questionable shots at the end (several by Leslie), I'd hardly consider Indiana a mediocre team the way they have been playing. Not elite, but definitely a potential Top 25 or 30 this season so far

11/30/2011 10:09:56 PM

I didn't say he wasn't credible. But we should have won that game.

11/30/2011 10:15:22 PM

im not sure we should have won, Indiana was on their shit tonight... but we shouldnt have lost by 11pts...

wish we would have won though, would have been huge

im still on the Gottfried wagon. had mixed feelings about his mouthiness to the ref. it was a couple of shit calls and i was glad to see that Gottfried wanted to win as badly as the fans... but its not yet that time to be getting that heated with the refs. ACC has already lost badly to the Big 10, lets just look forward to conference play.

11/30/2011 10:18:51 PM

We had a great crowd. And we had so many chances to put the game away - missed free throws and mind-numbingly dumb plays down the stretch killed us. Maybe Gott needs a couple years to coach the stupid out of these players.

11/30/2011 10:44:02 PM

Quote :

"^^ you don't watch games do you? Painter has a nice jump shot this year."

what? that post wasnt about painter

also indiana is a sweet 16 team, book it

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2011 10:46:19 PM

^^^wat


Gottfried should not call a spade a spade when it comes to shitty reffing?



that makes no sense at all

11/30/2011 11:30:23 PM

Let me just take a moment to compliment the ticketing system. So much better than the old one and I got into my seats a lot faster than expected.

11/30/2011 11:39:30 PM

I doubt indiana ends up a top 25 team at the end of the year. They were a solid squad, but we should have beaten them. They can certainly hit open 3s, and it's on us for allowing them to do so.

We got outscored by 18 points at the end? That's a pretty shameful collapse.

[Edited on December 1, 2011 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .]

12/1/2011 12:24:04 AM

From timswar

Quote :

"Having to get held back by another coach because a ref called a bs flagrant on your player? +1 Credible. /I like my coaches to be fiery on the court."

Definitely. It's been a long time since we had a coach this fiery in Raleigh. Very credible.

12/1/2011 12:32:49 AM

Unlike in past years, we don't have to wait another month to bounce back from this game and hopefully show improvement against a legitimate opponent. The team would not get better playing 6-7 straight games against Deleware State-type teams.

+1 credibility, potentially +10 if we come out better against Stanford.

12/1/2011 8:34:12 AM

Quote :

"Gottfried should not call a spade a spade when it comes to shitty reffing?"

he def should, that flagrant one was some bs, but he got a little too heated, i didnt want him to get into trouble... not yet at least!

[Edited on December 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM. Reason : p.s. i'm glad we finally have a coach that wants to win as badly as the fans]

12/1/2011 8:57:51 AM

12/1/2011 8:57:57 AM

1. I don't know what game some of you were watching, but Indiana is NOT a mediocre team.
2. Could we have won this game? Yes. Was it a Sendekian meltdown? No the fuck not.
3. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE SOME GAMES THIS YEAR. This team is already night and day different and better from last year, but don't start thinking we are going to be top dogs and expect it--they still have a lot to learn.
4. This team has a lot of desire to win. They learned some lessons last night and I expect to see them improve.

12/1/2011 9:33:02 AM

i think next year with our new recruits who are 100% behind gottfried we will be good to go.

12/1/2011 9:42:02 AM

FatTony

Quote :

"FIRE GOTTFRIED HE SUCKS BECAUSE WE ARENT UNDEFEATED WAH WAH WAH"

faggot.

12/1/2011 9:46:10 AM

MG needs to teach the team what the backboard is. Use some CJL bank-shot free throw on layups and short jumpers

12/1/2011 9:54:11 AM

Lorenzo, in the post game, said exactly what happened, once they got up 63-57, (i think that was the right score), they got excited, thought they had won, thought IU was going to mail it in, and they stopped playing team D. Just a maturity thing. Hard to blame them too since they really don't know how to win yet.

But as others have said, this team is already night and day different than the last couple of years, the loss stings but they know what their doing.

12/1/2011 9:57:29 AM

^Yeah, they were letting it slip away even before the bs flagrant call. As much as we may not want to admit it this is still a work in progress and realistically we're still a year away. As awful as the ACC is this year and good some of the mid majors have gotten I doubt the conference gets more than 4 bids and I'm not ready yet to put us in that group just yet.

New coach, new system, new attitude. We're not going to be a Top 25 program overnight.

12/1/2011 10:01:15 AM

ITT, people don't know the different between flagrant and intentional

12/1/2011 10:04:54 AM

Indiana is a really good team this year, obviously top 20 right now and we hung with them and had a shot to win. That's a good sign.

Everyone knew we'd need to overachieve to make the tournament this year, next year is our year. We've known that for literally FOUR years now that next year is the year we make noise so there's no reason to get all upset that this isn't the year. This is the year we support the team and enjoy the fact that we look competent for the first time in 5 seasons.

In the words of Brock Lesnar "You can't make chicken salad from chicken shit". We've been chicken shit for 5 years. This year we're not chicken shit, we're more like chicken tetrazini. Chicken tetrazini if you've never had it is edible, but it's not any good and it's one of the least pleasurable ways to combine chicken and pasta that I know of. It's just an inefficient use of resources.

Anyway, once we get our chicken tetrazini year over with we can start being the big dogs. Big dogs get fed stuff like steak, potatoes, etc. They get spices that are expensive sprinkled on their food sometimes too. That shit is good. Big dog food you know. People that put in work like upperclassmen 4* and lowerclassmen 5* get to eat the spices, while the other teams play for old spice championships.

A year from now we'll be sitting around drinking bud lights and telling people, I went to State that's my school. Where'd you go to school? I bet not somewhere that has a better basketball team than State. And that's something you probably haven't said in five years. And for that we owe Gottfried a fountain filled with virgins.

Now what the fan base needs to do is start issuing chops to ESPN for showing those fucking parents the whole game. The only thing more annoying is Eric Williams mom every fucking game circa last decade and Mateen Cleaves gold chain when he couldnt play against UNC in the late 90s.


Where were we. Oh yeah. Steak, medium. With the potatoes. Sprinkle those spices too. Oh that's not on the menu this year? Okay, I'll pre-order it for next year.

12/1/2011 10:06:17 AM

Next we'll be big dog chicken salad that eats potatoes?

I'm lost

12/1/2011 10:09:55 AM

That call on Wood was borderline. Could have gone either way. He continues to have a what the fuck foul almost every game, it's got to stop.

face, your our boy Richard needs to step it up. He killed us last night. I expect him to terrorize a majority of the ACC this year. He's definitely got the potential.


**this is not a hostile post**

12/1/2011 10:10:00 AM

Howell sucked total codsac last night no question. Glad to see he admitted as much on twitter. I dont read twitter but other people do and then they relay it through other means like posting on a message board and I read it. Once I've read what that person wrote about what someone else tweeted, sometimes i even convey to my friends what that person wrote that the athlete tweeted. Sometimes this is done with spoken word, but often I just text it. Technology is really revolutionizing the way information spreads.

I hear that one day you could play Mortal Kombat with a friend in Vietnam. This internet thing could be huge. People in Bangladesh one day may have Wolfpack tee-shirts and wear them and talk about men named Vandenburg. They may think he is the Mandenburg. One thing is for sure, our perimeter defense sucks this year.

12/1/2011 10:16:51 AM

lol

12/1/2011 10:18:08 AM

That's a really terrible metaphor, but I tend to agree with most of what you said

The team is playing really well for the most part. Indiana is a great team with tons of athleticism and talent. While it would have been awesome to close it out and play a complete game, I think a lot of you have ridiculous expectations and think that we're Carolina or something.

Dumb plays, missed free throws, and getting absolutely destroyed in transition are really what cost them the game last night- not piss poor coaching. The way they responded in the first half to come back and take the lead is exactly the type of play they'll need to win ACC games. They will learn and get better. For the first time in YEARS, it's actually fun to watch a basketball game. Anyone who watched them run the princeton offense under herb knows exactly what I'm talking about. Talk about boring and painful to watch. At least this team knows how to rebound...

I'm looking forward to seeing them play in person in Palo Alto on Sunday- it's the first game I'll be attending in 5 years...

12/1/2011 10:19:08 AM