scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
lol at this reporter. No one else seems to react at all
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152709210391336 11/25/2014 12:18:08 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really feel sorry for the people that wanted to legitimately protest the decision. They got about 5 minutes of airtime, if that, before the crap started" |
you'd have to be pretty dumb to think you could just show up and 'protest' peacefully
do people not know how riots work?
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:20 AM. Reason : .]11/25/2014 12:19:31 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
most of his fox news viewers are probably like "what a pussy" 11/25/2014 12:19:53 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^lol 11/25/2014 12:20:33 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to think that some of the people out there were there for reasons other than to riot. 11/25/2014 12:21:13 AM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJEVs7dJS3g
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:21 AM. Reason : ] 11/25/2014 12:21:38 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to think that some of the people out there were there for reasons other than to riot. " |
again, you must be new to riots11/25/2014 12:23:01 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Imagine having all your Christmas shopping done in one night, before Thanksgiving, for free.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:24 AM. Reason : holidays? how do they work] 11/25/2014 12:24:28 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
your odds of getting trampled and receiving a steal on an item are about equal, i'll give you that 11/25/2014 12:25:19 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you'd have to be pretty dumb to think you could just show up and 'protest' peacefully
do people not know how riots work?" |
there have been peaceful protests on a daily basis and continue to be peaceful protests right now11/25/2014 12:25:34 AM |
CuntPunter Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It is beyond ridiculous to me that there is even a debate after hearing that at the very beginning of this he attacked the cop in his own car." |
Had he ended this at he car door then there would be no question that it was justified. But 50 yards down the street? Look, I know these guys are in stressed out situations all the time and I can't say what I would or would not do after the initial encounter...but I can say that given this guy was a swisher sweets thief and presented neither a knife or gun in the first encounter and was in the process of running away that it seems to be way more prudent to pursue the guy at a distance until help arrived. We don't really know what caused him to turn around and come back at the officer. Anything is possible but it's very strange to me that the kid was shot once, appeared to run away, then decided "fuck it, I'm going to charge this guy who already shot me once when all I have is my fists"? Maybe blacks in Ferguson have been shit on so much by the cops and the people that run the town that this really isn't that far fetched of a scenario.11/25/2014 12:25:42 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
meh
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:27 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2014 12:26:52 AM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Their goal tonight is to burn the whole town down. Every update is about another fire.
Live Ferguson feed.
http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/ 11/25/2014 12:30:00 AM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Fucking idiots.
They get pissy about the government, so they're going to burn the private property of their fellow citizens.
Fucking animalistic ghetto ass idiots. They got this whole shit backwards.
Fuck them. There's ways to respond productively. This is not solving anything and is going to turn their little town into a hell hole. Good job destroying what little future your town had. 11/25/2014 12:32:29 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
He attacked a cop in his own car after refusing lawful orders. He only stopped attacking the cop in the car when the gun went off, hitting him once in the arm. The cop's sole responsibility at that point is to subdue the suspect and keep him from hurting not only the officer, but the general public. It can be reasonably assumed that someone who would attack a cop is likely a violent individual who may go on to hurt others. The cop was doing his job. There is absolutely nothing to debate here. And I'm not comparing this to other OIS's because I don't know any details from any of the other ones. But in this particular case, the cop was 100% justified in how he handled the situation. You and everyone else keep focusing on the lack of a weapon as if that exonerates Michael Brown from every single thing he did wrong that led to his death.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:34 AM. Reason : a]
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:37 AM. Reason : a] 11/25/2014 12:34:30 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^ destroyed the towns future?
it's pretty clear how and why we got here.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:37 AM. Reason : you guys are aware that other people can read your posts, right?] 11/25/2014 12:35:38 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I was rather impressed that they had the presence to not loot the black owned businesses. As I have said repeatedly to anyone that brought this up to me. The best move for that city was to indict him and have a trial. That way it doesn't smell like a cover up. They fucked that up, now they will burn.
^^Yes "allegedly" hitting a cop, running from cop, running at cop is punishable by death in this country. I'm glad you have blind faith in the justice system in this country.
Lets say he really bitch slapped this officer, gave him a rosy cheek, got shot, ran away, turned back (all the while never reaching for a weapon etc) , and got shot down like a dog.....how is that a justified use of force?
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:43 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2014 12:37:20 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
the republicans are blaming obama for the riots in ferguson
saying it started when he gave a speech
Quote : | "The violence started while Obama was talking and a curious upside down cross on the flag next to him..weird #Ferguson " |
11/25/2014 12:37:48 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there have been peaceful protests on a daily basis and continue to be peaceful protests right now" |
and that's working out really well for them as the town burns to the ground and people are getting shot left and right.
again, some people have no clue how riots work.
protesting in the middle of broad daylight away from cops is one thing, but what everyone with common sense knew what was going to happen tonight is taking place right now.
people are 'protesting' a few blocks from my apartment, while swaths of Oakland are getting trashed by dumpster fires and smashed windows.
am I against the verdict? of course. but i'm smart enough to stay my ass at home right now.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:43 AM. Reason : .]11/25/2014 12:41:27 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes "allegedly" hitting a cop, running from cop, running at cop is punishable by death in this country. I'm glad you have blind faith in the justice system in this country." |
No, but after having been shot once already and STILL continuing to approach an officer in any manner whatsoever while refusing LAWFUL FUCKING ORDERS to stop DOES warrant the use of deadly force. What is so difficult to understand about this?11/25/2014 12:41:28 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Every broken window is a job created. 11/25/2014 12:46:53 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
i just realized your user name was captain insano hahaha 11/25/2014 12:47:16 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Behold the face of a man that was in a life in death, shoot-em up, brawl with a 6'4 300lb black man.
11/25/2014 12:49:57 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
probably a Dale Jr fan 11/25/2014 12:51:19 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
It was nice of him to risk the lives of the occupants of the neighboring homes during his execution of a unarmed fat kid. Seriously he could have just let the fat fucker run another 50 yards, and he would of just given up out of breath.
11/25/2014 12:55:16 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^^You clearly are either trolling or just completely unwilling to rationally assess the role a police officer plays in society and what responsibilities any given citizen has when interacting with one.
^Yea, he could have run out of breath or he could have taken a hostage and actually produced a weapon from a pocket. Seeing as how the officer DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PAT HIM DOWN TO BE SURE HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
And with that I think I'm done posting.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:55 AM. Reason : a]
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:56 AM. Reason : a] 11/25/2014 12:55:24 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
You are white and most likely middle class. You lack the life experiences to understand why people are pissed about this. 11/25/2014 12:56:35 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
That's quite a presumption given you have no clue who I am, where I've lived, how I've grown up nor do you have any indication as to what my current status in life is economically, socially or otherwise. I, on the other hand, have only made a very specific assumption about you based on your uninformed and emotionally charged postings.
Why don't you give the below a good thorough reading and see if it enlightens you at all.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/11/us/ferguson-grand-jury-docs/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:59 AM. Reason : a] 11/25/2014 12:57:44 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
If the dude had a weapon, don't you think he would have used it after he got shot the first time????
^
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:06 AM. Reason : .] 11/25/2014 12:58:50 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
Guy livestreaming who had his phone stolen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWkTAqmJUwc
Phone stolen at the 2:34 mark
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:02 AM. Reason : . ] 11/25/2014 1:02:10 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that happened like 3 pages ago. 11/25/2014 1:03:21 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
I know. This was just the first time I'd seen video of it. I'd stepped away from my computer when it happened. 11/25/2014 1:05:09 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ It's not lack of experience, it's likely solution aversion: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/107/5/809/
People tend to ignore reality when they don't like the conclusion it implies. 11/25/2014 1:05:19 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Nice I like that explanation better than mine. 11/25/2014 1:06:36 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the guy getting his phone stolen
what'd he expect 11/25/2014 1:08:19 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Synopsis of my stance on this case." |
So a law enforcement officer is supposed to take all the time in the world in determining whether his life and perhaps the lives of others are in danger, but you (and many others in society) can't take the time to read the evidence that led to the decision in this case before opining? I'm very hopeful you aren't a prosecutor, defense attorney, district attorney, judge or any other person that has an impact on whether someone ends up in jail or not.
^^^So, based on that abstract, are you implying that I'm a conservative or a liberal? Because I'm not sure how that definition applies in this case and if it does apply, how it applies to me rather than Blackjesus...
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:10 AM. Reason : a]11/25/2014 1:08:37 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I'd guess you are conservative given your love of law enforcement. When you are taking a life you damn well better take your time and make sure you are doing the right thing. Killing someone should be the LAST option. In this case we can all agree it was not his last option. 11/25/2014 1:15:15 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Should have deferred to the second half. Rookie mistake. 11/25/2014 1:20:35 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/24/ferguson-grand-jury-testimony/Grand%20Jury%20Volume%207.pdf
page 20-21 interesting 11/25/2014 1:21:32 AM |
Fermat All American 47007 Posts user info edit post |
wait. so civilian means non cop now?
LOL? 11/25/2014 1:23:39 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Deciphering that hurts
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:27 AM. Reason : and it's not even THAT bad, relatively speaking] 11/25/2014 1:27:28 AM |
sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWkTAqmJUwc
KARMA IS A BITCH< BAHAHAHHAHAA 11/25/2014 1:30:44 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^^ This isn't about Wilson/Brown, it's about what the justice system has been doing, almost as it was designed: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_the_United_States_criminal_justice_system
Wilson is merely part of a system that blacks have been struggling against, that has never worked for them, and still doesn't work for them. This situation could have been avoided actually, it wasn't inevitable. All it takes is good, honest communication. Instead, governor Nixon and chief McCullough chose arming up in subterfuge rather than an active, meaningful dialogue. 11/25/2014 1:35:37 AM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
the Community sure has set a lot of things on fire. Listening to the police dispatch stream, I keep hearing "fully engulfed". Not the taco bell! 11/25/2014 1:52:51 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1370518/grand-jury-volume-5.pdf
Wilsons version of events starts at page 195.
Seems like Wilson got pissed Brown called him a pussy and decided to execute him. 11/25/2014 3:05:32 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/2nbslo/no_indictment_in_ferguson_case/cmc95va
Pretty much everything you need to know about what's happening in that post. 11/25/2014 5:06:05 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
So last time government was criticized for heavy police presence. This morning I just heard them being criticized for not having enough presence.
Quote : | "I was rather impressed that they had the presence to not loot the black owned businesses." |
This isn't true at all is it? I just woke up to hear a guy on CNN from one of the churches complaining about them looting black owned businesses.11/25/2014 6:23:17 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
When I was watching the live stream they were destroying businesses, got to "Cathys Kitchen" and the crowd goes "this is a black owned business". Skipped it and destroyed the businesses on both sides.
Of course the news will now make sure they put out anything that makes them look bad. 11/25/2014 8:05:38 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
11/25/2014 8:10:43 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^im sure if they had destroyed "cathys kitchen" instead it would have made them look "good" 11/25/2014 8:17:42 AM |