Quote :

"Only in your undoubtedly vivid homoerotic fantasies. And I've owned you so many times on T-Dub, I've forgotten most of them--but I can dig 'em up if I need to. Would you like that?"

thats funny, because i'm quite certain that YOU were the one to bring homosexual activities into a thread ostensibly about global warming.

and no need to search through old threads. i have the current certified score right here:

Joe 27
Hook 3




[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ]

10/3/2007 12:23:03 AM

Joe 15
Hook 15
Chance -28*

(* "-28" = "baldness")

10/3/2007 12:35:16 AM

pfft.

you cant even close a markup tag properly, why the hell is anyone going to let you keep score.

10/3/2007 12:44:48 AM

^^ Don't trust him ^, Twista. He'll bite you--it's the rabies, I'm telling you.

^ PS: Speaking of being owned, you're keeping your ass out of that surge thread now since I ran you out, aren't you?

[Edited on October 3, 2007 at 1:48 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2007 1:46:34 AM

So, despite this "terrifying" DVD cover. . .



. . .this is the reality.

Hurricane forecast downgraded

http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=7158737

10/3/2007 4:22:13 PM

yes. clearly one year of downgraded forecasts proves that AGW is a total hoax

10/3/2007 5:36:08 PM

little known fact:

the picture on the cover is not actually a coal burning factory plant emitting co2 emissions...its actually a sideways close up of gore's private jet's engines

10/3/2007 5:43:00 PM

damn, those are some long assed jet engines!

10/3/2007 5:45:48 PM

I don't know why we (in the US) are making such a big fuss about that movie. It's obvious by the cover that he was only trying to warn the southern hemisphere since our hurricanes spin the other direction.

And HookGeezer, using a downgraded hurricane forecast to completely dispel global warming as a whole is a dumb as those who used a storm like Katrina to solidify 100% human causality. Nice try though.

10/3/2007 7:01:25 PM

Quote :

"using a downgraded hurricane forecast to completely dispel global warming as a whole is a dumb "

yeah but so is thinking we know everything about the earth based on a tiny sample of good data

10/3/2007 7:05:45 PM

You will get no arguments from me.

10/3/2007 7:11:25 PM

Quote :

"yes. clearly one year of downgraded forecasts proves that AGW is a total hoax "

aaronburro

Quote :

"using a downgraded hurricane forecast to completely dispel global warming as a whole is a dumb as those who used a storm like Katrina to solidify 100% human causality. Nice try though."

HockeyRoman (BTW, fuck you.)

Um. . .the hurricane forecast was also lowered last year, and forecasts were lowered, average, or lower than average in other recent years, too:

NOAA Lowers Hurricane Forecast for 2006

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5626896

Hurricane Forecast Lowered Slightly [2004]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46526-2004Aug6.html

Hurricane Forecast Update: William Gray and Colorado State Team Expect Lower-than-Average Storm Activity in August and September [2003]

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/comm/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=con.main&cat=4&id=135

Cooler Atlantic Leads Colorado State's Forecast Team to Lower Hurricane Prediction and Call for Average Storm Season [2002]

http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=2002+hurricane+forecast+lowered

Colorado State Hurricane Forecast Team Calls For "Average" 2000 Season

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/12/991213052243.htm

But that's not really the point. So, for those with impaired comprehension skills, the point was that the image on the cover of An Inconvenient Truth and the message delivered directly in the film by Al Gore et al are obviously nothing more than alarmism.

The sky is not falling, Chicken Little.

[Edited on October 4, 2007 at 12:35 AM. Reason : .]

10/4/2007 12:22:37 AM

That alone doesn't negate the various other signs and warnings of global warming. If you are trying to say/prove that global warming isn't occurring then have fun standing on your island. The rest of us are discussing the role that humans play in all of this. You make it sound like Al Gore is the ONLY one trying to get this message out.

10/4/2007 12:29:07 AM

*Sigh* I'll try again:

Quote :

"But that's not really the point. So, for those with impaired comprehension skills, the point was that the image on the cover of An Inconvenient Truth and the message delivered directly in the film by Al Gore et al are obviously nothing more than alarmism."

10/4/2007 12:35:31 AM

Quote :

"Fire up the ovens, Muffin Man, we've got a big order to fill."

yeah, fuck it.

im with Hooksaw and Twista now.

cause you know, fuck the science, fuck the atmosphere, fuck the oceans -- lets just burn all the fuel we can and let loose with all the emissions ... who cares, it doesnt matter. the earth's been around billions of years, it'll be around billions more, we ain't doin' nothin' that ain't gonna work itself out in the end, anyhow.

so buy those Hummer H2's and put 50 gallons of fuel in it so you can drive to the stores and continue consuming all that cheap disposable plastic shit from China, leave your lights on and throw your recyclables in the dumpster. and if a hippy says shit to you, bust him in the teeth with your pistol butt.

who gives a fuck anyhow, cause Jesus is coming back soon, and we'll all get pulled up into the clouds with Him, and hey, the Bible says mankind has dominion over all the plants and animals, anyhow, so we can do whatever the fuck you want and if you dont like it move to fucking France you goddamn beret-wearing baguette-eating faggot motherfucking terrorist sympathizers.

10/4/2007 12:35:35 AM

^ Yeah, because this V and that ^ look so much alike, dipshit.

Quote :

"But that's not really the point. So, for those with impaired comprehension skills, the point was that the image on the cover of An Inconvenient Truth and the message delivered directly in the film by Al Gore et al are obviously nothing more than alarmism."

10/4/2007 12:42:59 AM

and....

he's back

10/4/2007 1:10:18 AM

New issues swirl around controversial NASA branch

Quote :

"NASA's primary climate monitoring agency is the Goddard Institute of Space Studies. Operating out of a small office at Columbia University, GISS is run by Dr. James Hansen. Official NASA climate statements come through GISS ... which means they must get by Hansen. Many other scientists and agencies make climate predictions, but Hansen's top the list for scare factor, predicting consequences considerably more dire than his colleagues. Hansen specializes in climate 'modeling' -- attempting to predict future events based on computer simulations. In 1971, Hansen wrote his first climate model, which showed the world was about to experience severe global cooling. NASA colleagues used it to warn the world that immediate action was needed to prevent catastrophe. Most research papers are rather dry reading, written to be as unemotional as possible. Not so with Hansen's reports, whose works scream alarmism even in their titles: 'Climate Catastrophe,' 'Can We Defuse the Global Warming Time Bomb,' and 'The Threat to the Planet.' Hansen was most recently in the news when an amateur blogger discovered an error in his climate data, a mistake Hansen later discounted as unimportant to the 'big picture' of compelling public action on climate change. But who is James Hansen? Is he an impartial researcher seeking scientific truth? Or a political activist with an axe to grind? In 2006, Hansen accused the Bush Administration of attempting to censor him. The issue stemmed from an email sent by a 23-year old NASA public affairs intern. It warned Hansen over repeated violations of NASA's official press policy, which requires the agency be notified prior to interviews. Hansen claimed he was being 'silenced,' despite delivering over 1,400 interviews in recent years, including 15 the very month he made the claim. While he admits to violating the NASA press policy, Hansen states he had a 'constitutional right' to grant interviews. Hansen then began a barrage of public appearances on TV, radio and in lecture halls decrying the politicization of climate science. Turns out he was right. Science was being politicized. By him. A report revealed just this week, shows the 'Open Society Institute' funded Hansen to the tune of $720,000, carefully orchestrating his entire media campaign. OSI, a political group which spent $74 million in 2006 to 'shape public policy,' is funded by billionaire George Soros, the largest backer of Kerry's 2004 Presidential Campaign. Soros, who once declared that 'removing Bush from office' was the 'central focus' of his life, has also given tens of millions of dollars to MoveOn.Org and other political action groups [emphasis added]. Certainly Soros has a right to spend his own money. But NASA officials have a responsibility to accurate, unbiased, nonpartisan science. For Hansen to secretly receive a large check from Soros, then begin making unsubstantiated claims about administrative influence on climate science is more than suspicious -- it's a clear conflict of interest. But the issues don't stop here. Hansen received an earlier $250,000 grant from the Heinz Foundation, an organization run by Kerry's wife, which he followed by publicly endorsing Kerry. Hansen also acted as a paid consultant to Gore during the making of his global-warming film, 'An Inconvenient Truth,' and even personally promoted the film during an NYC event [emphasis added]. After the the GISS data error was revealed, Hansen finally agreed to make public the method he uses to generate 'official' temperature records from the actual readings. That process has been revealed to be thousands of lines of source code, containing hundreds of arbitrary 'bias' adjustments to individual sites, tossing out many readings entirely, and raising (or lowering) the actual values for others, sometimes by several degrees. Many areas with weak or no rising temperature trends are therefore given, after adjustment, a much sharper trend. A full audit of the Hansen code is currently underway, but it seems clear that Hansen has more explaining to do. George Deutsch, the NASA intern who resigned over the censorship fallout, said he was initially warned about Hansen when starting the job, 'People said ... you gotta watch that guy. He is a loose cannon; he is kind of crazy. He is difficult to work with; he is an alarmist; he exaggerates' [emphasis added]. Hansen's office did not return a request from DailyTech for an interview for this article. Update: Hansen has denied receiving direct funding from OSI. Investors Business Daily is standing behind the story, claiming the funding first passed through the Government Accountability Project, which then used it to package Hansen for the media."

http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+James+Hansen+and+the+Politicization+of+Science/article9061.htm

We are getting closer to the truth, and it really is "inconvenient"--for Al Gore.

[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 12:11 PM. Reason : .]

10/5/2007 12:09:02 PM

A Friday two-fer:

Schools must warn of Gore climate film bias

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"Schools will have to issue a warning before they show pupils Al Gore's controversial film about global warming, a judge indicated yesterday. The move follows a High Court action by a father who accused the Government of 'brainwashing' children with propaganda by showing it in the classroom. Stewart Dimmock said the former U.S. Vice-President's documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, is unfit for schools because it is politically biased and contains serious scientific inaccuracies and 'sentimental mush'. He wants the video banned after it was distributed with four other short films to 3,500 schools in February. Mr Justice Burton is due to deliver a ruling on the case next week, but yesterday he said he would be saying that Gore's Oscar-winning film does promote 'partisan political views'. This means that teachers will have to warn pupils that there are other opinions on global warming and they should not necessarily accept the views of the film."

Quote :

"David Miliband, who was Environment-Secretary when the school packs were announced, said at the time: 'The debate over the science of climate change is well and truly over.' But during the three-day hearing, the court heard that the critically-acclaimed film contains a number of inaccuracies, exaggerations and statements about global warming for which there is currently insufficient scientific evidence [emphasis added]."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=485336&in_page_id=1811

10/5/2007 12:26:52 PM

So wait, it's ok to follow the money trail now?

10/5/2007 2:00:26 PM

no. it's OK to follow the trail when it's against GW. ignore it when it's for GW.

10/5/2007 10:36:54 PM

I'm just posting what the UK papers are reporting and the liberal US press is not--you decide.

10/7/2007 6:46:41 AM

Supporters of Gore Lead a Movement That Lacks a Candidate

Quote :

"WASHINGTON, Oct. 10 — With talk of a Nobel Peace Prize in the air and election deadlines looming, supporters of Al Gore have been raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for petition drives and advertising campaigns in a last-ditch effort to draft him into the Democratic presidential primaries."

Quote :

"Bob Alexander, a co-chairman of the Michigan group, said he believed Mr. Gore just might do it, especially if he won the Nobel Prize. 'Hopefully,' Mr. Alexander said, 'the euphoria of winning the Nobel Peace Prize, plus all this other positive stuff, will be enough for him to say: "O.K., this thing is taking off. We’re ready to run."'"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/us/politics/11gore.html?ref=politics

Dear God,

I don't ask you for a lot. But I am asking you now not to let either of these things happen: Al Gore become a Nobel laureate or become (shudder). . .president.

Oh. . .and I would like a toolbox for Christmas.

Amen.

10/10/2007 11:41:44 PM

isn't it too late at this point for gore to declare as a real candidate? (i mean legally)

10/10/2007 11:50:34 PM

He as plenty of time to declare as a Green party or independent candidate. Hell, there is specuation that Bloomberg might jump into the race in February.

Of course 3rd party candidates have to spend half their time and money just trying to get on the ballot in all 50 states.

10/10/2007 11:53:58 PM

^ and ^^ Despite the caucuses and the primary election, I am pretty sure that Gore could be nominated at the Democratic National Convention by the delegates--but it would be unprecedented in recent times. I mean, that's what they did at these conventions before they turned into pep rallies.

10/11/2007 12:20:15 AM

I would think that the Repubs would want him to run because he'd take votes away from the other leading candidates to a point where Rudy or Mit might stand a chance yet would not win the election himself.

10/11/2007 12:24:12 AM

^ Don't forget the negative numbers. According to Rasmussen, Romney's negatives are a bit higher than Clinton's--and hers are pretty damn high. I'm afraid she's going to win, though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/romney_encounters_more_core_opposition_than_clinton

[Edited on October 11, 2007 at 12:33 AM. Reason : .]

10/11/2007 12:32:15 AM

I am surprised that Edwards' def. against numbers aren't higher given the ferocity of the right-wing howl chamber ever since he was in the 2004 race.

10/11/2007 12:48:20 AM

^ Edwards has done plenty of harm to himself and you know it. And he is a phony--and I think even he knows it.

In any event, I would argue that we hear more left-wing howls than right.

10/11/2007 2:15:23 AM

Depends on the subject and depends on your sources about the howlers. As for Edwards I am rather indifferent. I don't think that being a lawyer, even a trial lawyer, makes him unqualified to be president. I would have liked for him to have done more for NC rather than using our senate seat as a spring board into the national spotlight.

10/11/2007 2:33:22 AM

Gore would have done a helluva better job as president than Bush.

-- we wouldn't be down $1Trillion and 4000 soldiers in the quagmire of Iraq.

-- Iraq would still not have any "WMD"s, but would still be an effective regional counterweight to Iran.

-- the US would still have a budget surplus

-- Osama Bin Laden would have been tried, found guilty, and executed.

-- Guantanamo Bay would still be a largely deserted proving grounds for grouchy sailors and marines.

-- the world would not have had to see the twisted scowling sneer of Dick Cheney every other fucking morning.

-- John Ashcroft would only be known for having lost his Senate seat to a dead man.

-- Alberto Gonzales would be known for ... nothing.


on the flip side, Gore probably would have lost in '04 to whichever Republican the Christian Right floated through the primary, and the US Congress would most certainly still be Republican.

but i think that would be worth the lives of 4000 US soldiers and 100,000+ Iraqi citizens.





[Edited on October 11, 2007 at 3:00 AM. Reason : ]

10/11/2007 2:56:38 AM

still living in the year 2000 are we

10/11/2007 9:43:37 AM

Quote :

"-- the US would still have a budget surplus -- Osama Bin Laden would have been tried, found guilty, and executed. "

How do you figure?

10/11/2007 1:05:26 PM

^ because Gore wouldnt have broken the budget on tax breaks for the wealthy, or thrown a trillion dollars into the fucking sinkhole of Iraq, which would have left our military and intelligence on the singular task of breaking Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and finding Bin Laden.

NOT wasted the lives and money trying to keep the dam of sectarian civil war from erupting in the failed state that we have now created, and then playing cops and robbers in it. t

any fucking sane and rational person knows this. unfortunately, we still have GWB in office.

10/11/2007 10:39:53 PM

Clinton didn't try, find guilty, and execute bin Ladin but Gore would've for sure! Any sane and rational person knows this!

10/12/2007 2:05:31 AM

Quote :

"Clinton didn't try, find guilty, and execute bin Ladin but Gore would've for sure! Any sane and rational person knows this!"

What's your point? Have we found bin Ladin under Bush's watch?

10/12/2007 9:53:18 AM

^^ Bin Laden didn't execute an attack on american soil that killed 3000 people and cause an incredible amount of economic damage under Clinton's watch, either.

i mean jesus, dude, that's pretty weak for a veteran troll such as yourself. surely you can do better than that. I'm disappointed in you.



[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 11:11 AM. Reason : ]

10/12/2007 11:09:08 AM

^just shut up already

Clinton had his chance to get bin Ladin...he was too busy getting blow Jobbin

but leave it to a hypothetical reality retard like yourself to claim if Gore had been elected instead of Bush, that bin Ladin would've been caught, tried and executed

hey maybe all the streets would be paved with milk chocolate and the lamp posts would be made of candy canes if al gore had been elected

any sane, rational person knows exactly what would happen under all hypothetical make believe scenarios that arent real

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 11:16 AM. Reason : .]

10/12/2007 11:10:33 AM

i mean jesus, dude, that's pretty weak for a veteran troll such as yourself. surely you can do better than that. I'm disappointed in you.

10/12/2007 11:30:21 AM

Quote :

"Gore wouldnt have broken the budget on tax breaks for the wealthy, or thrown a trillion dollars into the fucking sinkhole of Iraq, which would have left our military and intelligence on the singular task of breaking Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and finding Bin Laden."

We'd be in the middle of a recession right now if not for those Bush tax cuts. The US government has never had a surplus during a recession. Under Gore's leadership, I'm guessing we'd have a deficit very similar to the one we have now, but the economy would be in the shitter.

10/12/2007 11:50:47 AM

Oh god. Can I subscribe to your financial blog? I'm sure you're wealthy beyond imagination with the way you can call the markets!

10/12/2007 11:53:02 AM

i like joe_schmoe's blog a lot better...Al Gore would've already captured, tried and executed bin Ladin...that is a FACT

any fucking sane and rational person knows this

10/12/2007 11:56:05 AM

^LOL, I must be insane and/or irrational

^^Wait a minute...are you seriously refuting that tax cuts spur the economy? Or that we were headed for a recession after Clinton left office?

Honestly, it doesn't take a PhD in economics to know that Bush's tax cuts spurred the economy.

[Edited on October 12, 2007 at 11:57 AM. Reason : 2]

10/12/2007 11:56:49 AM

anybody's tax cuts spur the economy...thats not Econ 101...thats like junior high school social studies...TypeA is just being a douchebag, as usual

10/12/2007 11:59:08 AM

Quote :

"Or that we were headed for a recession after ClintonBush II left office? "

Fixed it for ya!


I don't know about you, but the middle man has gotten squeezed by the tax cuts + an unprecedented era of the devaluing dollar. So, sure, I guess the cuts helped squeeze some more paste out of the tube, but it's gonna be the middle class and poor that get smashed when it goes dry, not the already wealthy.

10/12/2007 12:00:14 PM

Quote :

"An overwhelming majority of Americans — 90% of Democrats, 80% of independents, 60% of Republicans — now say they favor "immediate action" to confront the climate crisis."

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1670838,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation

10/12/2007 12:01:08 PM

10/12/2007 12:04:33 PM

Quote :

"the middle man has gotten squeezed by the tax cuts + an unprecedented era of the devaluing dollar."

"Unprecedented era of the devaluing dollar"? You must not have heard of the 70's and it's triple-digit inflationary periods.

And I fail to see how the middle man gets squeezed by tax cuts.

When pressed, you liberals always fall back to that class-warfare bullshit.

10/12/2007 12:07:43 PM

Don't you get it Prawn Star...the middle man pays less taxes...therefore he suffers...its basic liberal illogic

10/12/2007 12:12:14 PM