Thanks, but not the kind of info I was hoping for. Guess it's going to be another one of those "refresh the recruiting thread every 5 minutes" days at work.

12/2/2008 11:56:26 AM

well, why dont you ask specifically what you want to know
we arent mind readers

12/2/2008 12:31:32 PM

Updates
Darryl Cato-Bishop Commits!
Boogie McCray Commits!
Hans Rice Commits!

2009 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

QB
*** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200

RB
*** James Washington (Boone HS) Orlando, FL 6-0/180/4.40
*** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40
*** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50
*** Travis Small (Cheraw HS) Cheraw, SC 5-10.5/184/4.50
*** Morgan Alexander (Cartersville HS) Cartersville, GA 5-10.5/160/4.47
** William Pratcher (Cedar Grove HS) Ellenwood, GA 5-10/180

FB
No offers

WR
*** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190
*** Bryan Underwood (Cleveland Heights HS) University Hts, OH 5-8.5/162/4.62
**** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48
*** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59
*** Carvin Powell (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2.5/198/4.50
**** Jheranie Boyd (Ashbrook HS) Gastonia, NC 6-3/185/4.45 UNC

TE
** Anthony Talbert (Winton Woods HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-4/225
*** Asa Watson (Rock Hill HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-4/200

OT
***** Xavier Nixon (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-6/285
***** Marcus Hall (Glenville HS) Cleveland, OH 6-5/293/5.35
**** Travis Bond (Bertie HS) Windsor, NC 6-6/330
*** Kadeem Custis (St. John Neumann HS) Philadelphia, PA 6-5/270/5.00
*** Andrew Tiller (Nassau) Garden City, NY 6-6/320/5.00
*** Duran Christophe (Woodstock HS) Woodstock, GA 6-5.5/257/5.59

OG
*** Denzelle Good (Gaffney Senior HS) Gaffney, SC 6-4/295
**** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322
* Gus Handler (Barrington HS) Barrington, IL 6-3/265

C
No Offers

DT
*** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275
*** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315
**** Edwin Herbert (CC of San Francisco) San Francisco, CA 6-3.5/295
*** Frankie Davis (East Ridge HS) Clermont, FL 6-3/270
*** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275
*** Raynard Randolph (Gwynn Park HS) Brandywine, MD 6-3/295
*** Akeem Spence (Ft. Walton Beach HS) Fort Walton Beach, FL 6-1/290
*** Nathan Mageo (New Mexico Military) Roswell, NM 6-4/280/4.96
* Conor O'Neal (Newsome HS) Lithia, FL 6-3/300

DE
*** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225
*** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215
** Darryl Cato-Bishop (Lawrence Academy) Groton, MA 6-4/230
**** Duane Chisolm (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/250
**** Jason Ankrah (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 6-4/240/4.79
**** Leon Mackey (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-5/260
*** Julius Forte (Boca Ciega HS) Gulfport, FL 6-2/221/4.66
*** Izaan Cross (Flowery Branch HS) Flowery Branch, GA 6-4/250
*** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60
*** Bernardo Nunez (Hoboken HS) Hoboken, NJ 6-2/220/4.70
** Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207
** Luke Sager (Niceville Senior HS) Niceville, FL 6-4/240
* Josh Jackson (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-1/242/5.00

MLB
*** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51
** Julian Burnett (Westside HS) Macon, GA 5-9.5/222/4.66
**** Hawatha Bell (David W Butler HS) Matthews, NC 6-0/225 UNC

SLB
*** Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/205
*** LeRon Furr (Carver HS) Columbus, GA 6-3/213
*** Antwon Higgs (Pompano Beach HS Institute) Pompano Beach, FL 6-2/243/4.94

WLB
**** Jamil Merrell (Paul M. Hodgson Vocational Tec) Newark, DE 6-4/210/4.60
*** Robert Nelson (Stone Mountain HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-0/205

S
*** Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5
** Boogie McCray (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2/210
**** Jonathan Meeks (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-2/185
* Jarrell Harrison (CC of San Francisco) San Francisco, CA 6-2/210/4.55
* Brandan Bishop (Boca Raton HS) Boca Raton, FL 6-1/197/4.66
* Donald Coleman (The Hun School) Princeton, NJ 6-0/207/4.46
**** David Batts (El Camino) Torrance, CA 6-2/200/4.50 Nevada

CB
*** Dean Haynes (Northwest Whitfield County HS) Tunnel Hill, GA 6-0/200
*** Jarvis Byrd (Pahokee HS) Pahokee, FL 5-10/170/4.65
*** Josh Evans (Irvington HS) Irvington, NJ 6-2/185/4.43
*** Dale Peterman (Ursuline HS) Youngstown, OH 5-11/176/4.67
*** Jairus Jones (Wharton HS) Tampa, FL 6-1/205/4.60
** Keith Reaser (Miami Killian HS) Miami, FL 5-10/-/4.44
** Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175
**** Terry Shankle (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-0/180 UNC
**** Travis Hawkins (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 5-11/185/4.42 Maryland

K,P
** Chris Ward (Starrs Mill HS) Fayetteville, GA 6-1/170


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
16 Available for 2009
-17 2009 Commits
+3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram)
+6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney)
-------------------------------------
8 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 1
Backfield - 1
Receivers - 3
Linemen - 1
------------------
Total Offense - 6

DEFENSE
Linemen - 5
Linebackers - 1
Secondary - 4
------------------
Total Defense - 10

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 1

Geographical Diversity
Alabama - 1
Florida - 2
Georgia - 2
Massachusetts - 1
New Jersey - 1
North Carolina - 3
South Carolina - 2
Ohio - 3
Virginia - 2

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 0
4* - 0
3* - 13
2* - 4
1* - 0
--------------------
Average Stars - 2.76

12/2/2008 12:36:12 PM

So did Boogie commit or not? He was listed on rivals as a commit but not anymore.

12/2/2008 12:39:18 PM

haha, I just noticed this

Nathan Mageo (New Mexico Military) Roswell, NM

I'd love to get an alien on the team

12/2/2008 12:47:01 PM

Boogie committed but he isn't officially accepted until his Fall grades are released. Sounds like he has questionable grades and I guess we won't take him unless his grades are sufficient.

12/2/2008 12:59:26 PM

welcome to the pack hans!

12/2/2008 1:00:11 PM

Quote :

"I'd love to get an alien on the team"

haha. He'd fit better in Chapel Hill with their team of space cadets. That was my one lame UNC joke for the day.

Quote :

"well, why dont you ask specifically what you want to know we arent mind readers "

More info on the Hans Rice developments. I can't find anything on Pack Pride, except for people asking the same question.


[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 1:04 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 1:03:35 PM

So was Rice the mysterious silent commit or are we still waiting?

12/2/2008 1:26:08 PM

no he was not

we're still waiting on the mysterious verbal

12/2/2008 1:28:45 PM

this was a big recruiting weekend, thank god we won

12/2/2008 1:38:33 PM

Maybe it's this guy



You know he's good because he's got a huge crotch bulge

12/2/2008 1:47:02 PM

Quote :

"this was a big recruiting weekend, thank god we won"

Definitely was. Still sucks that Raper couldn't come up though. Getting a WR with speed like that would be awesome.

Players like Raper, Nixon, etc that couldn't make it up during a game will hopefully reschedule an official visit this winter. This is another area Russell Wilson can help us out big time, as I've heard that he was an excellent tour guide/host for some of the recruits last year.

Now that he's the All-ACC QB, the staff can really use him to their advantage on the recruiting front. Hopefully we can have him hosting a few of the big-timers that opt to come here on visits (IE Nixon, Hall, Justin Brown, etc

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 1:51:20 PM

What do O-linemen think about running QB's??? My thought is they would LOVE to block for someone like RW instead of a stationary QB, but that may not be true. What do u think having a mobile QB does or the rest of the recruitment?

12/2/2008 2:00:39 PM

I was reading somewhere (maybe this very thread) that RW is a great recruiting host off the field not to mention his on field accomplishments.

12/2/2008 2:03:30 PM

^Maybe you read it in my post? Two above yours But I read it somewhere else too ... I think it was on gopack.com.

^^WRs have to love it, because it opens the door for big plays. Think how many of our big plays have come as the result of a busted play.

I've never played Oline, but I'd imagine they'd love it too. It definitely lessens the pressure of having to create a perfect pocket. I think a bigger factor in our Oline recruiting though will be the turn-around in this year's Oline. They went from being a position of weakness to one of the strongest on the teams. Don't think TOB, Bible, etc didn't have something to do with that.

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 2:15:36 PM

Morgan Alexander Commits!

12/2/2008 2:51:37 PM

Alexander coming as a RB?

12/2/2008 2:57:15 PM

I like the 4.5 forty time.

12/2/2008 2:57:33 PM

^^^^ if there is one thing TOB & Co. are known for, it's a beastly O-Line. i have complete faith in him and Don Horton to produce one of the top OL's in the league year-in and year-out.

12/2/2008 3:05:04 PM

I think Alexander is coming back as either a slot receiver or corner.

Staff may give him reps at RB if he redshirts.

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM. Reason : \/ yeah, we fucking need secondary help any way we can get it]

12/2/2008 3:09:39 PM

corner makes the most sense

12/2/2008 3:11:15 PM

So was Alexander the silent verbal, or do we have to wait even longer?

12/2/2008 4:02:40 PM

Alexander was not the silent verbal.

12/2/2008 4:03:20 PM

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 4:05:05 PM

its not

it was Mageo, JC DT.

sorry to spoil your hopes, but I think Bond is Carolina bound.

12/2/2008 4:06:54 PM

it was Mageo
you can add him to the list and welcome him to the pack!
TB is a cool cat

12/2/2008 4:08:14 PM

I'm loving these DT commits. Besides the secondary, thats our weakest spot starting next year

12/2/2008 4:10:47 PM

this mageo? http://nmpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=80573

12/2/2008 4:11:50 PM

yep.

12/2/2008 4:12:12 PM

weird. that site says he's going to hawaii

12/2/2008 4:13:01 PM

HAHA, we got the ALIEN!!!!

12/2/2008 4:13:15 PM

that site is wrong, he has canceled his remaining visits and informed the Hawaii coaches that he would be running with the pack.

he verb'd this weekend after the game and asked the staff not to announce it for a few days so he could call take care of canceling visits and stuff or something like that

12/2/2008 4:16:54 PM

if true he'll be here this spring

12/2/2008 4:18:12 PM

Does anybody know if Archer is trying to build a 3 - 4 defense??

I know he was an assistant at Pittsburgh (Steelers) and ran that at Kentucky... Looks like he's trying to get some big boys for DT/Nose.

12/2/2008 4:18:35 PM

a

[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : a]

12/2/2008 5:37:15 PM

Mageo commitment switch is official

12/3/2008 11:23:24 AM

I don't think we have the LB depth coming in to move to a 34. If we were swithing to a 34, we'd have to move a few DT's to DE & some DE's to LB (but that could certainly be a possibility).

[Edited on December 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM. Reason : ]

12/3/2008 12:11:44 PM

We're really setup nicely for the 4-3, so I don't think they want to switch it. I think what we're doing right now needs to stay in tact for another year or two. It's tough on guys to keep switching styles/coaches each year and one of the reasons I didn't like Amato(no consistency with coordinators).

With the core of LBs we got last year and the ones coming up, we should be ok at LB with Nate and Michel returning as starters and then we have 3-4 guys who have potential and hopefully one of them can fill the hole at the other starting spot. Hopefully Manning comes back strong and lives up to expectations.

Right now we're just adding depth at DT and girth so we can stop the run and free up our LBs and DE's to make plays. We were shallow at DT and by adding these JuCos we can play them right away and redshirt the freshman we have coming in hopefully. TOB is really a big fan of redshirts(which I am too) so I think we'll see the JuCo trend for one more year and then he probably won't have to rely on it as much when his recruits are hitting the RS-Sophmore/Junior level and we have sufficient depth.

12/3/2008 12:36:33 PM

Archer has said that he wants to move to it eventually but will stick with the 4-3 until we have the personnel.

12/3/2008 12:52:40 PM

Yeah we've been recruiting the right DT/DEs for it recently but it'll take time, don't see it happening this coming season.

Then again I didn't see us using the spread either, so maybe they'll surprise us.

I just think with the stars we have on D (AMC, Nate, Willie), we fit better with a 4-3 right now.

12/3/2008 1:02:33 PM

Jeff Rieskamp/Willie Young could both be DeMarcus Ware/Greg Ellis type players and play end or LB.

12/3/2008 1:13:56 PM

3-4 would be awesome. No QB would be safe.

12/3/2008 1:35:42 PM

Yeah I know Young and McKeen could be rushing LBs in 3-4, but I just don't see AMC being the big nose-tackle type we need for that and he's too big to be a DE in 3-4. AMC is a monster and we want him to be as productive as possible so I think we stay in a 4-3 this coming season.

12/3/2008 2:39:51 PM

add rashard smith to the list. Pretty good offer list with http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3688732

12/3/2008 4:38:20 PM

Rashard Smith Commits!

12/3/2008 4:38:22 PM

bump

12/3/2008 4:41:16 PM

bump

12/3/2008 4:41:51 PM

bump

12/3/2008 4:42:29 PM

set em up

12/3/2008 4:42:34 PM