This is the real story.

^American News is heavily biased. CNN has been pushing for a riot/race war since this first started. But as soon as the riot starts they are only interested in getting video of them looting and destroying stuff. No focus given to the militarized police officers or anything else.

Long story short news in this country is terrible. CNN & Fox are shit.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 8:23 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 8:19:57 AM

CrackerNewsNetwork right?

11/25/2014 8:24:05 AM

CNN > FOX. Fox should be renamed to GOP TV.

CNN is White Guilt Network.

11/25/2014 8:28:37 AM

I'm a little upset that the police didn't do more to protect the private property of the citizens there. I mean, from a cursory glance, you see a LOT of police and gear near the station, but the area that was getting hit the hardest, they seemed to have not shown up until the firemen needed help.

11/25/2014 8:41:08 AM

lawl. so the first time around, the cops did too much. now they did too little.

11/25/2014 8:43:38 AM

I never said the cops did too much, but I think last night they definitely did too little.

With the national guard's assistance? Come on...no injuries or private property destruction should have taken place.

11/25/2014 8:45:03 AM

^^Yeah, that is what I was saying last page. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't

lol at these two CNN reporters arguing with each other


[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 8:48 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 8:45:55 AM

11/25/2014 8:48:28 AM

That middle picture with the swat team and the season's greeting sign looks like something straight out of a Die Hard movie.

11/25/2014 8:51:15 AM

Would it be inappropriate to use that Season's Greetings photo for my Christmas card?

11/25/2014 8:53:05 AM

Cops can drive around with their military grade tear gas launcher, but they can't stop people from looting, burning up multiple cop cars etc. What exactly was the cops goal last night?

11/25/2014 8:54:02 AM

That is my question. To me, their only goal seemed to be protecting the police HQ building.

11/25/2014 8:54:45 AM

they were there to make sure nobody played ashley deyJ tunes

11/25/2014 9:21:03 AM

^^protecting their arsenal stockpile sounds like an intelligent thing to do during a riot.

Quote :

"His first step is coming towards me, he kind of does like a stutter step to start running. When he does that, his left hand goes in a fist and goes to his side, his right one goes under his shirt in his waistband and he starts running at me"

From the Grand Jury Reports; the stutter step and sticking his arm down low on his stomach/waistband makes me wonder if fatboy started cramping from the 100 yard dash and the cop mistook it for him pulling a weapon.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 9:24 AM. Reason : ^^this riot would have been more entertaining if the rioters obtained automatic weapons and tanks]

11/25/2014 9:22:51 AM

There were more than enough officers/enforcement to guard the precinct as well as guard the retail sections.

11/25/2014 9:38:53 AM

Here is my take on the whole thing...

I feel really bad for the kids family at this point. Whether justified or not, they still lost a loved one and were truly hoping his death could spark some sort of change in America. They were advocating hard for peaceful protests no matter the outcome because they knew that was the only way for anything positive to come from this. Instead we got what most of the rest of america expected. So whether you like it or not in the end all this has done is reenforce the ideas and stereotypes most people have against black people. Yes, many protesters were peaceful, but in the end the small group who thought it was a great excuse to set things on fire and loot stores have wiped out any sort of progress that might have been made. Maybe one of these days people will figure out that if you want the cops to stop profiling you, you should try to stop giving them reason after reason to do so.

11/25/2014 9:45:30 AM

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"that if you want the cops to stop profiling you, you should try to stop giving them reason after reason to do so."

In other words minorities brought this all on themselves. Do cops profile white people that burn cities when their favorite sports team wins???

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:04 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 9:58:37 AM

Quote :

"I'm a little upset that the police didn't do more to protect the private property of the citizens there. I mean, from a cursory glance, you see a LOT of police and gear near the station, but the area that was getting hit the hardest, they seemed to have not shown up until the firemen needed help. "

I'm not too surprised, they've never done enough to stop the looting, their objective has always been to stoke the protesters.

It wouldn't surprise me if they allowed the looting to happen. I'm not sure what they view as their future, or why they planned their operation to be so offensive in the first place.

They must realize the basis of American democracy is that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed, and they made little effort to earn or keep that consent in this case.

11/25/2014 10:03:21 AM

You don't need consent when you have full tactical gear and a vehicle straight out of Fallujah. And it doesn't hurt if your targets are minorities.

11/25/2014 10:05:58 AM

Quote :

"Here is my take on the whole thing... I feel really bad for the kids family at this point. Whether justified or not, they still lost a loved one and were truly hoping his death could spark some sort of change in America. They were advocating hard for peaceful protests no matter the outcome because they knew that was the only way for anything positive to come from this. Instead we got what most of the rest of america expected. So whether you like it or not in the end all this has done is reenforce the ideas and stereotypes most people have against black people. Yes, many protesters were peaceful, but in the end the small group who thought it was a great excuse to set things on fire and loot stores have wiped out any sort of progress that might have been made. Maybe one of these days people will figure out that if you want the cops to stop profiling you, you should try to stop giving them reason after reason to do so. "

i was with you till that last sentence.

11/25/2014 10:07:11 AM

Racial profiling is ok, we earned it guys.

11/25/2014 10:08:35 AM

Quote :

"They must realize the basis of American democracy is that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed, and they made little effort to earn or keep that consent in this case. "

That last point doesn't sound like something a lot of police would consider.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:09 AM. Reason : q]

11/25/2014 10:08:43 AM

Quote :

"In other words minorities brought this all on themselves. Do cops profile white people that burn cities when their favorite sports team wins??? "

Do they not have an increased security prescence and pepper spray, tear gas, and arrest those same people? Of course they do. I seem to remember several people on this board getting pepper sprayed at a sporting event. Also, I never said racial profiling was right, but we all know that it happens and there are lots of reasons for it. I realize people feel like they are fighting an uphill battle when it comes to race, but I think we can all admit situations like this are not helping that cause in the least and are likely just hurting it more.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 10:14:22 AM

Quote :

"^^Yes "allegedly" hitting a cop, running from cop, running at cop is punishable by death in this country. I'm glad you have blind faith in the justice system in this country."

Quote :

"Behold the face of a man that was in a life in death, shoot-em up, brawl with a 6'4 300lb black man."

I realize why you're all bent out of shape on this case, but anytime a person with a gun is attacked he has a duty to protect that gun. Nobody is going to wait to learn more about an attackers intentions when a gun is in play and the law has repeatedly proven it is on the side of the firearm owner should an unprovoked attack occur.

So quit with the notion that this man needed to have a smashed face and mangled body before he could legally fire a shot. Just stop. If the kid attacked it was legal. I don't think that either you or I have the proper data to know whether that happened or not, but ignorant speculation isn't going to get us anywhere as a society.

11/25/2014 10:14:52 AM

If they didn't leak information implying he had a mangled face I wouldn't have to show his picture. Dude had a rosy cheek, the other guy has 2 holes in his head.

I knew this was coming months ago, after I saw the video of Mike robbing that store. No way in hell that cop was getting indicted by a jury of his peers (9 white/3 black).

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 10:20:11 AM

11/25/2014 10:22:56 AM

PIZZA CAUSES CANCER

AFTER PUTTING ON SOCKS, I STEPPED IN A WET SPOT IN THE BATHROOM

11/25/2014 10:29:01 AM

It was cold at the protests, so I started a fire. Sorry.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:29 AM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 10:29:19 AM

I understood the rodney king riots more than these.

I also like the dude dancing with the peace sign waving in front of a building he likely set ablaze.

Still trying to figure out how this keeps being steered in a racial direction when it needs to be an "accountability of law" issue.

11/25/2014 10:39:30 AM

yeah someones going to die in one of these fires

11/25/2014 10:45:58 AM

Quote :

"So whether you like it or not in the end all this has done is reenforce the ideas and stereotypes most people have against black people. Yes, many protesters were peaceful, but in the end the small group who thought it was a great excuse to set things on fire and loot stores have wiped out any sort of progress that might have been made."

You can blame CNN, Fox and the rest of them for focusing the entirety of their coverage on the rioters rather than the peaceful protesters.

Quote :

"Do cops profile white people that burn cities when their favorite sports team wins???"

During the burning, probably. But I appreciate your overall point here.

Quote :

"I'm a little upset that the police didn't do more to protect the private property of the citizens there. I mean, from a cursory glance, you see a LOT of police and gear near the station, but the area that was getting hit the hardest, they seemed to have not shown up until the firemen needed help."

The purpose is to protect human life and to not escalate anything. Had they gone straight up to the rioters and engaged them it would have escalated the situation. The reason they DID help when firemen were asking is because they were there to protect the firemen from the rioters-not the building the firemen were trying to save.

11/25/2014 11:12:42 AM

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"If they didn't leak information implying he had a mangled face"

here's your problem. you're still listening to that bullshit story that was disproved months ago. try to keep up, k.

11/25/2014 11:32:31 AM

I wonder how many of those rioters/looters who stayed out there all night were late for work this morning?

11/25/2014 11:45:25 AM

everytime I see Walter's name, I am reminded of Walter Patterson from




please tell me your chat name on Tdub was inspired by this character haha

11/25/2014 11:54:17 AM

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
http://gawker.com/read-the-ferguson-grand-jury-testimony-and-witness-inte-1663029540
http://gawker.com/ferguson-prosecutors-idiot-speech-blames-everyone-but-d-1662970833
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/24/3596621/in-powerful-video-legal-experts-explain-why-the-grand-jury-in-ferguson-was-set-up-for-failure/

11/25/2014 12:02:03 PM

Whoever thought that there wouldn't be riots in Ferguson if there was no indictment obviously wasn't paying attention this summer, or to LA in 1992. The fact that the police chief wasn't expecting it speaks volumes about his lack of situational awareness.

11/25/2014 12:14:02 PM

Quote :

"Whoever thought that there wouldn't be riots in Ferguson if there was no indictmen"

Wait, what? Who the fuck didn't expect riots?

11/25/2014 12:14:57 PM

^^^

1) 538 is clickbaiting with that title. because 6 paragraphs in it launches in to how this is extremely common for cases like these

2&3) I have 99 problems, but looking to gawker for educated journalism with unbiased takes ain't one. going to gawker is like consuming First Take for valid sports analysis.

4) people with preconceived notions (i.e. protesters) railing against the outcome when it wasn't want they wanted aren't any more valid just because they have someone call them "experts." the most amusing part is they are pissed because the DA gave the grand jury all the evidence instead of manipulating it to get Wilson charged.

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 12:17:25 PM

It took some debating, but I've picked my favorite post so far.

Quote :

"Bitch could at least spell back right when spitting out her parents KKK teachings. She will be the first snowbunny lining up to blow the football team when she gets to college."

11/25/2014 12:20:36 PM

Quote :

"I have 99 problems, but looking to gawker for educated journalism with unbiased takes ain't one. going to gawker is like consuming First Take for valid sports analysis. "

They're posting evidence. But fuck evidence, right?

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"because 6 paragraphs in it launches in to how this is extremely common for cases like these"

Bullshit.

And you realize 6 paragraphs is nearly the entire story right?

11/25/2014 12:23:17 PM

Black kid dies no problem but when property gets destroyed its a disaster. Most people on news feed are upset about the property damage regardless of race. Maybe black people were better off as slaves because at least everone would be upset property is destoryed when their lives are lost.

11/25/2014 12:38:32 PM

Quote :

"Also, I never said racial profiling was right, but we all know that it happens and there are lots of reasons for it"

The reasons it happens are unconstitutional and yet cops seem to always get away with it anyway

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 12:41 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 12:39:23 PM

Quote :

"They're posting evidence. But fuck evidence, right?"

no, not fuck evidence. I probably shouldn't have included #2, because that's just what every news organization is doing...throwing up links to the data dump. my comments on gawker were directed to the 2nd link of theirs you threw up. which is hot garbage.

Quote :

"Bullshit. And you realize 6 paragraphs is nearly the entire story right? "

how is it bullshit? i'm beginning to think you don't read what you link. here's the entire context of the 6th (of 10 paragraphs) paragraph

Quote :

"Cases involving police shootings, however, appear to be an exception. As my colleague Reuben Fischer-Baum has written, we don’t have good data on officer-involved killings. But newspaper accounts suggest, grand juries frequently decline to indict law-enforcement officials. A recent Houston Chronicle investigation found that “police have been nearly immune from criminal charges in shootings” in Houston and other large cities in recent years. In Harris County, Texas, for example, grand juries haven’t indicted a Houston police officer since 2004; in Dallas, grand juries reviewed 81 shootings between 2008 and 2012 and returned just one indictment. Separate research by Bowling Green State University criminologist Philip Stinson has found that officers are rarely charged in on-duty killings, although it didn’t look at grand jury indictments specifically."

BTW, spending the first 5 paragraphs of a story saying how this is so out of the norm before finally revealing that in cases like this is is entirely the norm is yell fucking journalism to the core. as is then launching in to a "three reasons why this happens" and none of them are "because the officer isn't guilty"

maybe...JUST MAYBE...people who are trained day-in and day-out about the use of deadly force aren't applying it in cases which violate the law. but that doesn't sit well with people who want REVENGE and not JUSTICE

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2014 12:55:12 PM

Quote :

"Wait, what? Who the fuck didn't expect riots?"

The chief of police apparently - and white people.

11/25/2014 12:56:27 PM

of course the chief of police expected riots... why else were the cops out in force in riot gear beforehand?

11/25/2014 1:03:04 PM

To protect the police station, and test out their tear gas rocket launcher. Since thats all they did last night.

11/25/2014 1:04:29 PM

^^^^ the scope of the article is obviously much larger than police shootings

^^^ got a link for that? no fucking way anyone didn't expect riots in the case/inevitability of no indictment<]

11/25/2014 1:04:37 PM

Al Sharpton is my least favorite african american.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

11/25/2014 1:05:02 PM

is it going to happen again tonight? no more businesses to burn down though. unless they go to clayton mo

11/25/2014 1:05:54 PM

^^^but the purpose of the article was to put a frame of reference around what the grand jury delivered in this case, not some general macro-level examination of how grand juries work. read the fucking opening paragraph (for shit's sake man, do you only read the twitter links or something?):

Quote :

"A St. Louis County grand jury on Monday decided not to indict Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson in the August killing of teenager Michael Brown. The decision wasn’t a surprise — leaks from the grand jury had led most observers to conclude an indictment was unlikely — but it was unusual. Grand juries nearly always decide to indict."

That 538 article was pre-written (a link was on twitter within seconds of the announcement) to specifically address THIS ONE CASE and say how it's soooooo different than what normally happens, when it clearly isn't.

that would be like them saying "This $500 oil change for a Ferrari is unusual because it normally just costs $30 to get the average oil changed on a grocery getter"

[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 1:11 PM. Reason : ,]

11/25/2014 1:07:33 PM