MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on April 18, 2016 at 8:06 AM. Reason : false narrative of oppression created by American Christians]
[Edited on April 18, 2016 at 8:07 AM. Reason : "reverse racism"]
[Edited on April 18, 2016 at 8:07 AM. Reason : underachieving white idiot excuse echo chamber] 4/18/2016 8:05:28 AM |
BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114363 Posts user info edit post |
fuck billytalent
JCE2011 hangs out on white supremacist forums 4/18/2016 1:40:13 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
a stormfront's a brewing... 4/18/2016 1:43:22 PM |
BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114363 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where did I say feelings aren't real?
My point is a term like "aggression" implies actual hostility/violence. However since there isn't any actual hostility/violence, a qualifier of "micro" supposedly allows liberals to claim words are miniature versions of hostility and violence... It's the left's desperate attempt to make everyone a "victim" in a reality when they aren't.
I don't think we should be teaching our college students to be perpetually entitled, offended, precious little snowflakes like Johnathan Butler... but hey, most of you gullible SJWs were advocating for him in the race hoax at Mizzou, maybe we should be calling the police when someone says something we deem offensive like they did there.
Maybe we can all just put on our big boy pants and either ignore it, or confront someone if they are being rude, rather than designate "safe spaces" to hide from scary "words". OOPS! I said big "boy" pants, I should have said "boy or girl"... actually *TRIGGERED* you may be "gender fluid" and to label you as a gender is just me being a cis-gendered hetroprivleged male bigot! #MicroAggressed
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4/18/2016 1:55:30 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/19/black-lives-matters-and-americas-long-history-of-resisting-civil-rights-protesters/ 4/19/2016 10:32:13 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
There is a world of difference between actual activism from the 1960's, and this present day media-driven race-hoax outrage. I know SJW's like to pretend they are just as important and doing just as much good with their profile picture filters and hashtags, but comparing the 2 eras is a bad joke. Even when you are inventing things to be outraged by (MicroAggressions, pre-op Pangender bi-sexual transracial post-op people, "Hands Up Don't Shoot") you can't even fabricate enough actual "adversity" or "oppression" to justify your brave hashtags and outrage.
Let's look at the first 2 examples the article referenced: Freddie Gray: Unjustly killed in police custody... could have been a good case for unification in the protest of police brutality seeing as how half the cops were black... but "unity" isn't the goal, division is. So even though we have black cops lead by a black mayor and black police chief in a democratic Baltimore, let's go for the "race baiting" angle again and ignore these facts.
Mike Brown: Robbed a store, fought a cop for his gun, rushed the cop. Media went with the "hands up, don't shoot" narrative for a long time, eventually the facts came out and it was proven a justified killing, but that's after all the outrage and riots.
Gee, I wonder why people are skeptical of protests over these events? Let's try to link this skepticism to the KKK being skeptical of Dr. King in the 1960's. 4/19/2016 1:59:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
k 4/19/2016 2:08:51 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
that fake black chick from spokane was kinda hot imo 4/19/2016 2:12:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ what about the DOJ report outlining the very real and systemic racism through out that Ferguson PD? 4/19/2016 2:19:39 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
DOJ narrative 4/19/2016 2:22:02 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
JCE's Narrative is way more accurate 4/19/2016 2:23:19 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
I think the big difference between then and now is that back then the dividing lines were much more obvious and the demands from "the blacks" were more specific. now, "the blacks" are requesting corrective behavior from the remaining residual attitudes of that era. just as dissent against "the whites" was passed on from people who grew up in that era, it shouldn't be too far-fetched to say that dissent against "the blacks" was passed on as well. it's not like white people had an epiphany as a whole in 1965 and said "you know what, those black people ARE equal to us". give it some time, we're just in the conflict period where people need to adjust and/or die off.
now...to get back on topic...
white privileges: really old antique furniture passed down, old photographs of your great-great grandparents, ancestry.com going back to your countries of origin 4/19/2016 2:48:18 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
Institutionalized racism isn't as overt.
Also, you gotta love the "listen here, naggers and nagger sympathizers....there's no problem with racism here in America. I'll tell you when there's a problem." attitude.
[Edited on April 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM. Reason : Hooty hoo] 4/19/2016 3:00:42 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
but that would be saying that segregation wasn't institutionalized racism, which would be false. the current form of racism (however you want to define it...) isn't very obvi, but I guess it has to be that way to secure "the black vote" for these old white folks in gov't.
[Edited on April 19, 2016 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ^i get what u sayin tho] 4/19/2016 3:35:07 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The data analysis provided fresh evidence of suffering among white Americans. Recent research has highlighted the plight of less educated whites, showing surges in deaths from drug overdoses, suicides, liver disease and alcohol poisoning, particularly among those with a high school education or less." |
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/health/us-suicide-rate-surges-to-a-30-year-high.html?_r=0
They just need to work harder and pull themselves up, probably.4/22/2016 11:38:50 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The plight of rural America isn't much different than the urban inner city. If they had the population density to make it profitable I have no doubt violent crime there would be similar. 4/22/2016 11:44:17 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's mostly true, but i'm sure the suicide trend, and related causes, encompasses poor whites in urban and suburban areas too.
Poor whites still have it better than poor blacks, when it comes to gov. attention:
Quote : | "“If you color code the districts based on their racial composition you see this very stark breakdown. At any given poverty level, districts that have a higher proportion of white students get substantially higher funding than districts that have more minority students.”" |
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/
Not saying we ignore poor white problems, we can definitely attack both problems simultaneously, but it already seems the case that when groups of whites are struggling, the causes are presumed to be external. When groups of blacks are struggling, they don't get the same benefit of the doubt.4/22/2016 12:37:51 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Another garbage misrepresentation ignoring more relevant factors in place of race to generate outrage. 4/22/2016 3:38:10 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
the twist here is that JCE isn't even white 4/22/2016 4:40:17 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I heard they were building it on the highest point in raleigh 4/22/2016 4:59:29 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Dat 190% white privilege building Raleigh, NC 27606 4/23/2016 2:56:29 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "moron: Poor whites still have it better than poor blacks, when it comes to gov. attention:
"If you color code the districts based on their racial composition you see this very stark breakdown. At any given poverty level, districts that have a higher proportion of white students get substantially higher funding than districts that have more minority students.”" |
I suspect a lot of the discrepancy is teacher pay. Even when majority black schools get more money, per pupil spending is still lower because they don't get experienced (higher-paid) teachers:
http://rollingout.com/2012/08/24/public-schools-spend-less-money-on-every-black-student-in-america/
Quote : | "moron: Not saying we ignore poor white problems, we can definitely attack both problems simultaneously, but it already seems the case that when groups of whites are struggling, the causes are presumed to be external. When groups of blacks are struggling, they don't get the same benefit of the doubt." |
I'm worried that we might need less drugs and more church. And I'm serious. We gotta get white people to go back to church.4/23/2016 10:02:55 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
less church
always less church 4/23/2016 10:41:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
some people, unlike you and me, need that higher power stuff to get by and not off themselves 4/23/2016 10:54:05 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i understand that
but when someone is advocating for more church as a solution to problems, i must disagree 4/24/2016 1:13:50 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I'm open to whatever it takes to convince working class, white people to get married, work shitty jobs, and pay their taxes.
It's not church necessarily, but it is something very different than a spiritual diet of Facebook, fast food, and reality television. They need some place to gather for no particular reason that isn't also a bar.
I dunno...we've been on about education and access for a few decades now, but we have the Internet. Everybody has access to all the information now, and the entire state of Vermont still got hooked on heroin. Maybe they shoulda been cross-stitching Bible verses instead of smoking dope and eating whimsical ice cream concoctions.
Also, it's important to note that it's not the educated nerds who have left the church. I know the Internet thinks there's some great atheist revolution upon us, but educated people--informed people--are still going once they have kids (for the church sports and networking opportunities). It's working class people who've been leaving the church, and unless we're at the ready with some palatable hope substitute, I think they oughta go back.
And the only reason I care is because these selfish retards are still having children. 4/24/2016 2:28:06 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
You take examples of a lot of real problems and exagerate them across whole populations which is the flaw of your entire post. Heroins a big problem in vermont bbut when you say its the whole state, you just look silly. 4/24/2016 3:45:01 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/defeating-the-legacy-of-highways-rammed-through-poor-neighborhoods/2016/03/28/ffcfb5ae-f2a1-11e5-a61f-e9c95c06edca_story.html 4/24/2016 3:54:15 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^I do exaggerate, and I can be cruel and judgmental in a way that I don't like.
Regardless of my personal failings, white people still need Jesus. They probably need black Jesus. 4/24/2016 4:41:16 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the twist here is that JCE isn't even white" |
The left's obsession with identity politics is so tiresome. I guess when their arguments are that weak they have to constantly fall back on character assassination though. Why not just address the argument instead of get caught up with the color of the speaker's skin? You ignorant white KKK motherfuckers.4/24/2016 6:19:40 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm open to whatever it takes to convince working class, white people to get married, work shitty jobs, and pay their taxes.
It's not church necessarily, but it is something very different than a spiritual diet of Facebook, fast food, and reality television. They need some place to gather for no particular reason that isn't also a bar.
I dunno...we've been on about education and access for a few decades now, but we have the Internet. Everybody has access to all the information now, and the entire state of Vermont still got hooked on heroin. Maybe they shoulda been cross-stitching Bible verses instead of smoking dope and eating whimsical ice cream concoctions.
Also, it's important to note that it's not the educated nerds who have left the church. I know the Internet thinks there's some great atheist revolution upon us, but educated people--informed people--are still going once they have kids (for the church sports and networking opportunities). It's working class people who've been leaving the church, and unless we're at the ready with some palatable hope substitute, I think they oughta go back.
And the only reason I care is because these selfish retards are still having children. " |
I agree with what youre saying (although i've never seen stats on poor people leaving church-- but i'll believe you until i find out otherwise). As someone who grew up going to church, there were a lot of "life lessons" about patience and kindness and stuff I learned, that i wouldn't have learned in school, that my parents could have taught me if they wanted to, but took me to church instead because that's what they did growing up.
However, there's a staggering lack of meditative thought in our society, that used to be the role of church, that we don't have anymore. The closest thing is people going to the movies having to sit still and quiet, hopefully absorbing some moral tale movies often try to portray
Because of smart phones, there's no point in time kids are forced to be alone with their thoughts, and this i think hurts society.4/25/2016 1:11:42 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^^bruh...this is the WHITE privilege thread. 4/25/2016 10:05:22 AM |
CaelNCSU All American 7082 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "some people, unlike you and me, need that higher power stuff discipline, since of belonging in a community, network to help when things get down to get by and not off themselves" |
[Edited on April 25, 2016 at 11:09 AM. Reason : b]4/25/2016 11:09:15 AM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
white privilege still isn't real, bc you just read it on the internet 4/25/2016 10:24:58 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
My black ass benefitted from white privilege, so I know that shit is real. 4/26/2016 3:57:18 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
2 Parent privilege sure is unfair. #Oppressed 4/26/2016 4:48:21 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^wat? o_0 4/26/2016 5:20:21 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
having a two parent household is closer to a real privilege than being white 4/27/2016 8:05:25 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Having a two white parent household is closer to a real privilege.
[Edited on April 27, 2016 at 8:47 AM. Reason : ] 4/27/2016 8:47:15 AM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
EMCE and I wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for slavery 4/27/2016 10:52:52 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Having a two white parent household is closer to a real privilege." |
Why stop there? What about a two parent Asian household? Or two parent Jewish household?
All these factors that correlate with wealth and success more than race... naturally cause and effect isn't what liberals care about, just "oppressors" and "victims".
4/27/2016 5:58:43 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We know that immigrants have had significant advantages in relatively recent history. Whites have had significant advantages over blacks and natives/hispanics throughout all of this nation's history. 4/27/2016 6:53:41 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Two parents choosing to raise their child has been a significant advantage for all child throughout all of this nation's history. 4/27/2016 7:03:19 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I'm glad you're starting to get it. 4/27/2016 7:09:38 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but that doesn't negate the advantages of white privilege. Sorry. 4/27/2016 9:59:51 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, but that doesn't negate the advantages of white privilege. Sorry." |
And what might these advantages be, specifically? (Obviously this won't be answered )
We so often see the disparities of wealth/success referenced as evidence of "white privilege" yet the #1 factor used to predict wealth/success (across all races) is the number of parents raising a child.4/27/2016 10:54:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ better treatment by teachers in school, easier time getting a job, easier time getting car/home loans, more likely to be shown better real estate investments, more likely to get an inheritance, better treatment by juries, better treatment by police officers, etc.
Parents are 1 dimension of someone's chances of gaining opportunities, the prejudices your society has of you is another which is where "race" is a big factor. 4/27/2016 11:04:28 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ better treatment by teachers in school," |
I've seen this reference to "Black kids get suspended more" as proof of racism quite often. Could it also be, perhaps, that the less parents in the household, the worse your behavior and investment in education? Disparity of results does not prove disparity of opportunity.
Quote : | "easier time getting a job" |
I think this is one of the few victimhood claims that actually has merit, based purely on the resume studies of "Tyrone DeMarcus vs John Smith". Fortunately it is still a very small difference (~10% if I remember correctly). While this is still a problem worth addressing, it pales in comparison to other factors preventing success of African Americans.
Quote : | "easier time getting car/home loans, more likely to be shown better real estate investments," |
Nope. Fair Housing Act 1968
Quote : | "more likely to get an inheritance," |
Helps if you inherit from 2 parents instead of 1
Quote : | "better treatment by juries, better treatment by police officers, etc." |
Actually if you account for violent crimes, whites are more likely to be shot by cops. If you go by the HuffingtonPost however, naturally you would assume all cops are racist KKK members out to murder poor black victims.4/27/2016 11:16:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
4/27/2016 11:28:32 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is the number of parents raising a child." |
Do you not see that this is part of white privilege. The ability to make good choices is solely a reflection of education and circumstances. Sure you can find two-tailed exceptions, but people are generally products of their environment.4/27/2016 11:46:34 PM |