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philihp
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right into your curse of shadows?

8/15/2007 1:49:22 PM

ssclark
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...

cloak

8/15/2007 2:01:32 PM

MunkeyMuck
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of skill

8/15/2007 2:25:51 PM

DamnStraight
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after playing the majority of classes many things need nerf...i mainly play my druid, lock, and shaman but the ones off the top of my head i can think of are

MS
fears in general
cloak cd

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 2:31 PM. Reason : from an arena standpoint]

8/15/2007 2:31:29 PM

Nashattack
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ms? really? lets take from an already butt-raped class

fear.. yes!

8/15/2007 2:48:33 PM

SkankinMonky
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leave cloak cooldown as is but make it cost 20-25 energy and i'll agree with you if you do too much to it you'll further nerf rogue viability in pve


warriors are not a 'butt-raped class'

they are extremely versatile in pve and pvp. in pve they can tank or dps, and in pvp they can just rip faces apart.

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 3:01 PM. Reason : .]

8/15/2007 3:00:30 PM

Doss2k
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I used to think CoS was OP when I was lvling and yes I have a 70 rogue. However, without it mages and warlocks have their way with you if you dont stun lock them. For instance I had a good fight with a warlock yesterday, ate, mounted up, started flying away and saw another 70 lock at 10% so figured Id gank him. Keep in mind CoS, WoTF, and PVP trinket were blown against first warlock. So me at 100% him at 10% I got one hit in and then the chain fear began and his dots killed me before the chain ended. Yes I know warlocks are OP and all but at least rogues have a chance with CoS and such.

8/15/2007 4:01:13 PM

Novicane
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I hate warlocks who use their healthstone when they are getting pwnd in the face.

8/15/2007 4:17:48 PM

darkone
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^^ You couldn't be bothered to throw out one stun? That's all it would have taken for you to win.

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 4:19 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

8/15/2007 4:18:15 PM

Doss2k
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Had he not seen me coming possibly, like I said I landed on my mount which probably wasnt smart but come on he was at 10% life. By the time I got one shot in I was death coiled and it was game over after that.

8/15/2007 4:29:24 PM

toemoss
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hehe.. pwnt

8/15/2007 5:11:36 PM

dubcaps
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I have both a 70 rogue and mage and must say CoS hardly needs a nerf. even with CoS killing rogues is a joke.

warriors are no where near being a butt raped class, unless its against a decent frost mage then thats a pretty fair assesment.

8/15/2007 5:14:08 PM

cain
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warriors are only monsters if they over gear you, or if they have a healer (pref pally) behind them. Otherwise, its your fault for letting him stay on top of you long enough to kill you. And without MS, killing someone with +1700 or more healing might take a few days

[Edited on August 15, 2007 at 5:41 PM. Reason : h]

8/15/2007 5:40:21 PM

ssclark
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"ms? really? lets take from an already butt-raped class

fear.. yes!

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you having terrible gear is the main contributor to that point of view imo

8/15/2007 6:25:53 PM

CapnObvious
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" hate warlocks who use their healthstone when they are getting pwnd in the face."


Yeah, I hate it when classes use class skills against me too.

8/15/2007 6:51:24 PM

ssclark
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"Yeah, I hate it when classes use class skills against me too.
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that's what i thought when i read that.

8/15/2007 7:34:38 PM

Novicane
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^ just stating their OPness.

anyway

made my first pvp video. I did some frapsn yesterday and today. nothing fancy. I will keep adding to it. Open for suggestions as well. I'm thinkin some world pvp and some arena. I tried to keep as 1 on 1 as possible... not hiding behind 3 or 4 people casting multishots or getting heals the entire time.


http://www.wideawakeracing.com/videos/novicainebeta.wmv about 28 MB's.

8/15/2007 10:15:58 PM

smoothcrim
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music + you killing trash players 1v1 in bg's isnt exactly cool man. I didn't even see a single person in gear outside of 5 mans.

8/16/2007 11:02:10 AM

GKMatt
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^^ you need to learn to jump spin and also not walk backwards so much

8/16/2007 11:30:47 AM

Novicane
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lol my gear isn't outside of 5 mans except for two (maybe three) pieces. I have two or three pieces of kara gear that aren't that great (boots, gloves, and i think belt.. most pvp gear is about the same if not better) the rest is 5 manned or quested or crafted.

I'm trying to tweak my camera angles so i can run and shoot as well get my mouse sensitivity fast enough where i can spin. I'll work on that some this weekend.

[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 11:48 AM. Reason : dd]

8/16/2007 11:47:56 AM

OmarBadu
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novicane did you even read what he typed - he said the people you were killing had crappy gear so who cares

8/16/2007 11:55:38 AM

Novicane
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i guess that makes me a trash player killing other trash players. At least i'm not gear eclipsing people like all of the other pvp videos out there.

8/16/2007 12:13:06 PM

Drovkin
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isn't that the point of the entire game? Beat up people with crappier gear?

8/16/2007 1:43:18 PM

davidkunttu
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^ hell yes it is

8/16/2007 2:03:42 PM

DamnStraight
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raised my 2v2 rating 100 points today on my lock

8/16/2007 2:32:19 PM

Doss2k
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I've figured its pretty worthless to make a pvp video, either way people are just gonna trash it so better to just enjoy it yourself and not worry about what others think. either the other people suck, you suck, you outgear them, you play an OP class, etc etc.

8/16/2007 4:07:42 PM

ssclark
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"isn't that the point of the entire game? Beat up people with crappier gear?"


yes

8/16/2007 4:37:11 PM

davidkunttu
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greatest pvp video ever: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768

8/16/2007 4:54:50 PM

Novicane
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C:\My Computer\Dad's Documents\My Videos\mymovie.wmv

8/16/2007 5:05:28 PM

nastoute
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^^ that video's awesome

8/16/2007 5:07:02 PM

Shaggy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbr4GHrRhFM

best pvp

8/16/2007 5:22:21 PM

CalledToArms
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made my gay farewell thread. i had to. i talked too much smack on the boards over the years to just disappear

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=942924838&sid=1&pageNo=1

8/16/2007 5:34:28 PM

Doss2k
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finally got my hand of eternity crafted for my shaman tonight

8/16/2007 8:28:47 PM

ssclark
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lemme have your warrior and you can sell my hunter

8/16/2007 10:32:13 PM

dubcaps
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anyone wanna buy my 70 human female rogue? (pvp xferrable)

8/16/2007 10:35:18 PM

ssclark
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dude (reading your post) bunn was such a fucking faggot when we beat ya'll xrealm ... that was so fucking obnoxious

8/16/2007 10:38:09 PM

CalledToArms
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yea hes just really extremely ridiculously competitive. it was a really gay game tho on your guild's part but wasnt enough to work me up as much as bunn got upset hehe. and no im not defending his posts tho it was a bit much

[Edited on August 16, 2007 at 10:43 PM. Reason : ]

8/16/2007 10:41:43 PM

Nashattack
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can someone link me a good tanking warrior's armory so i can see what to look for?

and a dps arms spec (2h) pvp warr armory? kthxu

8/16/2007 10:53:17 PM

ssclark
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http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mug'thol&n=Bogus

8/16/2007 11:08:54 PM

philihp
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"Yes I know warlocks are OP and all but at least rogues have a chance with CoS and such."


i think it's funny how people QQ about warlocks being so great, yet nobody cares about rogues. one-on-one, a rogue will win against basically any class but prot warrior. and you won't find a prot warrior in an arena team.

http://www.limboftw.com/fotos/Limbo-Menethil.wmv

8/17/2007 12:55:16 AM

CalledToArms
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you also wont find a lot of 1v1 in an arena.

8/17/2007 12:56:32 AM

ssclark
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http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Kungen

8/17/2007 4:48:12 AM

Nashattack
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^ absolutely sick

what's the order of raids? like kara, ssc, hyjal, BT, eye, etc

I feel like such a nub not even being able to clear kara... my gear suxor

8/17/2007 9:49:02 AM

HockeyRoman
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Kara, High King/Grull, Void Reaver in TK, Mag, Lurker in SSC, Rest of TK, Rest of SSC, BT and Hyjal some where around there. I think that more bosses in SSC are easier than those in TK but this gives you an idea.

8/17/2007 10:50:28 AM

Doss2k
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Comparing your gear to the MT of the #1 guild in the world arguably doesnt mean your gear sucks. Chances are very few people will ever see similar gear, they have been clearing BT and Hyjal for what a few months now at least?

8/17/2007 12:22:45 PM

timswar
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pretty much any time you see those words "Scarab Lord" you should just stop the comparison...

unless they quit a while back...

8/17/2007 12:38:05 PM

GroundBeef
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If i transfer from a trial account can I keep my characters?

8/18/2007 3:36:33 AM

smoothcrim
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you don't transfer, you just upgrade your account. so yes.

8/18/2007 12:37:46 PM

nastoute
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^^^

i did a google search on the title

the arguments against having such a title are just the whiniest on the face of the earth

"haves" vs "have nots"

one actually makes the arguments that having something in game that is not obtainable "eventually" through insane amount of time commitment is unfair...

the losers in real life REALLY don't like being the losers in fake life

8/18/2007 2:17:21 PM

ssclark
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lol should have seen the drama on our server when we opened the aq gates in prime time and the server crashed keeping the top 2-3 guilds from aq progress...


they were muy unhappy

8/18/2007 2:42:50 PM

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