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Azaka
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BE is one of the best classes for rogues. Mana tap + arcane torrent is amazing in pve and pvp.

9/2/2007 6:25:14 PM

KillaB
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Just what I prefer. I already have a 70 mage, thanks. I also have a 70 shaman that I'd be willing to trade for a 70 horde rogue if anyone would prefer to do that...

Anyways, lemme know.

9/2/2007 6:42:12 PM

Grandmaster
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check SAMart

9/2/2007 7:48:29 PM

ssclark
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orcs make amazing mutilate / hybrid BS rogues


blood fury is the win

9/3/2007 5:00:31 PM

smoothcrim
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massive nerfs to melee haste, specifically rogues. seemingly due to the broken set of swords put on illidan as they single-handedly powered furi's 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 to gladiator status (a team in t6 helps, but still, rogues don't work in 5v5).

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"So some new information has come to light about this WONDERFUL 2.2 patch we have coming soon. I'll break down the highlights.

Haste rating nerfed from 10.5 to 15.6 rating needed for 1% haste increase. 50% nerf to any items that have haste rating, including Abacus of Violent Odds and of course Dragonspine Trophy.

Dragonspine Trophy receives internal cooldown. That's right, it now has an internal cooldown of around 25 seconds even AFTER getting a 50% nerf from the haste rating change, cutting the power of this trinket literally in half.

And now for the ultimate kick in the balls. Proc Per Minute calculations are now done at CURRENT weapon speed, not the normal speed of the weapon. What this means is that additional haste will not allow for more procs. For instance let's look at the Mongoose enchant, which is 2ppm. In our current melee system the % of attacks at normal speed would carry over when hasted with slice n dice, blade flurry, DST, Heroism, etc. giving us a much higher chance to proc the buff because we would be attacking a lot more often. With this change the % to proc goes DOWN when our haste goes UP.

A few other examples. Haste meta gem-nerfed from haste rating, nerfed from PPM change. DST-same story. Tsunami Talisman-nerfed from PPM change. Mongoose-nerfed from PPM change. Dragonstrike-nerfed from haste and PPM changes.

Also, lets not forget the fact that windfury was nerfed not to proc off special attacks and that sword spec is getting nerfed to not proc extra attacks off a sword spec proc.

As you can see this patch is a host of nerfs directed at rogues that will be a VERY serious loss in dps, all because of 2 legendary swords. I can't wait to have to sit out in raids because the only thing we bring is damage, and our ability to do that is being so seriously hindered that I will not be surprised to see any other class at the top of the damage meters after this patch hits."


on the plus side, all the TK and SSC weapons are getting buffed.



too little too late if you ask me. every rogue has already gotten the arena weapons as in most cases, they're still better.

9/3/2007 6:55:42 PM

God
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I wish I had a reason to keep playing this game.

9/3/2007 9:23:44 PM

soulfire963
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it's really only fun on days when im hungover and am physically unable to do anything else

9/3/2007 10:39:38 PM

porcha
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AND GOODNIGHT

9/4/2007 12:51:31 AM

ssclark
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it's a good feeling eh porcha ?

9/4/2007 12:08:34 PM

porcha
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what a fucked up encounter, what a long night, good thing it was only 1 night

9/4/2007 12:50:43 PM

ssclark
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lol

9/5/2007 12:55:45 PM

Nashattack
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ugh.. so i've been offtank for 3 runs thru the chess event in kara and have not got one drop yet

9/6/2007 11:01:41 PM

smoothcrim
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about to transfer, my server's dead
any horde pve us recruiting a well geared extremely experienced rogue? preferably at or beyond vashj/KT

http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Baelgun&n=Ripthejacker


[Edited on September 6, 2007 at 11:40 PM. Reason : .]

9/6/2007 11:32:34 PM

ThePeter
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^^^We haven't seen any new tank loot drop for about 10 weeks of karazhan; no pocket watch, no dynasty greaves, no neckpiece, no shoulders, no chest piece, no shield

however, my noobtacular guild that i don't run with has seen every tank piece

we get nothing but healing and caster void crytals, i think maiden has dropped the same exact loot for about three weeks in a row

9/7/2007 3:51:04 PM

cain
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I am starting a new alt and i need some opinions. Right now i have a warrior (tank geared and pvp geared) Priest (shadow and healing gear, still debating what tailor spec to use after i get my drake mount (might as well use my herb/mine skill to speed things up right

I want to make a new alt and i am debating druid, paladin,or mage. Anyone have any comments on which what i should go (i can box level myself to 60 an will start my playing in the outlands, so leveling speed is not that big of concern till then)

9/7/2007 4:59:53 PM

ssclark
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where do youevel 40 + boxeD ?

9/7/2007 10:28:38 PM

dubcaps
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mage.

9/8/2007 1:18:28 AM

God
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9/8/2007 8:43:58 PM

soulfire963
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Did you play EQ1? how does eq2 compare to it. i've always debated trying eq2 (former eq 1 player), but never got around to it.

9/8/2007 11:16:53 PM

nastoute
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don't bother

eq2's graphics have nothing on wow's

you may think that that doesn't matter much

but it does

9/9/2007 3:00:39 PM

God
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http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=everquest+2&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

EQ2 goes for more realism, WoW goes for more artistic. As a result, WoW art is better.

9/9/2007 4:38:04 PM

smoothcrim
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wow is pretty damn ugly dude

9/9/2007 4:54:12 PM

ssclark
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Quote :
"where do youevel 40 + boxeD ?

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where not what class to do it with. i already have a 70 mage

9/9/2007 6:43:14 PM

Nashattack
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K.. so yesterday was probably the best WoW day since I hit level 2.

I got my pole-arm (for crap dps in kara when no off-tank needed), the jade chest from mech, the tank ring from mech, the purp belt from heroic ramps, the tank shoulders from murmur and some crap tank gloves from ramps. IN ADDITION, I got the 5 AND 6 of Furies from the same slabs run. I won both greed rolls.

9/10/2007 4:31:14 PM

cain
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screw you and your shoulders of the bold... Screw blizzard for making all pre-raid tank shoulders drop in Auch while giving warriors no useful rewards for exalted LC. O well, at lest i get another tabard.

9/10/2007 5:40:16 PM

smoothcrim
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rogues get 0 rewards from any rep besides the bow from thrallmar and /ok/ offhand from consortium (mana tombs??). QQ more


[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 10:11 AM. Reason : I still see casters sportin the CE ring and lower city prayer book in hyjal]

9/11/2007 10:07:24 AM

Novicane
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no one cares about rogues.

9/11/2007 10:11:53 AM

ThePeter
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there's a dagger from exalted KoT

9/11/2007 10:15:54 AM

SkankinMonky
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the cenarion revered enchant isn't too bad....


but yea, the rewards rogues get from rep vendors are not anywhere as good as what some other classes get.

9/11/2007 11:01:48 AM

smoothcrim
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lol that cot dagger is so bad. so are the rewards for cot heroics vs the effort required.

9/11/2007 11:14:07 AM

soulfire963
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that dagger is probably the best mutilate dagger outside of raiding.

the caster sword is extremely good for how little effort it takes to get revered with KoT.

9/11/2007 11:29:36 AM

DamnStraight
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hahahaha my hunter got t4 helm and gorehowl last night
hahahahahahaha

9/11/2007 1:21:20 PM

GKMatt
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i have gorehowl on my hunter. its fun to walk around and watch the warriors cry

9/11/2007 1:22:53 PM

DamnStraight
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its more of funny cause my hunter is so bad, hes like my 4th guy with t4 now tho, which is mildly humorous..
a guild on my server killed illidan for server first and they got MH legendary, cool seeing that in shat lol

9/11/2007 1:29:26 PM

ShinAntonio
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade

someone's been screwing around on the wiki

9/11/2007 1:49:59 PM

davidkunttu
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3363622601120086775

9/11/2007 1:53:57 PM

dubcaps
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Got my netherdrake today, took 6 days from neutral

9/13/2007 2:18:07 AM

MunkeyMuck
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^^ I love the awkward laughs after he screams out the ambush etc.

He should of stuck with stealthing around the room, that was hilarious.

9/13/2007 3:36:29 AM

JohnnyTHM
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Quote :
"its more of funny cause my hunter is so bad, hes like my 4th guy with t4 now tho, which is mildly humorous..
a guild on my server killed illidan for server first and they got MH legendary, cool seeing that in shat lol"


me, you, and gkmatt are all on the same server nick...

get with the times

9/13/2007 5:40:27 AM

SkankinMonky
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hopefully our guild can down KT this week. healing was atrocious last night therefore we failed lol. I could really use his chestpiece though

9/13/2007 7:19:56 AM

Novicane
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what's that addon that modifies your spell tooltips so you can see how much dmg your spells actually do?

I have a warlock (he's 33!) anyway, i would like to see how much benefit my DoTs are getting without doing the coeffecient math on them all.

9/13/2007 10:24:15 AM

Doss2k
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Twink it out and you can run with me and my friends 39 twinks, my warlock destroys everything she comes in contact with remotely near her level. Hell her dots will take a 70 caster almost to half health. 3 warlock twinks in WSG = never lose!

9/13/2007 10:42:59 AM

Novicane
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you guys still on destro?

9/13/2007 11:03:33 AM

Nashattack
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291-360 blacksmithing last night... easy when i saved all the ore i have ever mined

my guild started The Eye last night... not sure whats going on really. They have downed Gruul 3 times now and they are doing Mag tonight. Is that normal to be all over the place? I think they are just doing the first boss in the eye.

[Edited on September 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM. Reason : meanwhile, I'm still in a group that is working through kara]

9/13/2007 2:07:25 PM

SkankinMonky
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yea a lot of guilds try to do void reaver because he's so easy but if you've only cleared gruul 3 times you won't get much further than that.

9/13/2007 2:09:52 PM

Doss2k
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Yep still on destro, I have so many characters I wont list them all but the main ones you might see me on as of late would be sporebat or frostmourn. Trying to pvp a little to get some pvp gear to make our arena games a bit more fair haha.

9/13/2007 3:11:35 PM

DamnStraight
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doss
link yer 39 locks armory

9/13/2007 4:02:40 PM

ThePeter
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I've been grinding blacksmithing and Tailoring at the same time (two characters), for Frozen Shadoweave on my s.priest and Red Havoc Boots on my Prot Paladin, but I don't have any time to raid anything but Karazhan, which we've been clearing for months and I only heal for bosses.

I think its time to start something else

9/13/2007 4:13:08 PM

Doss2k
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She is still 38 and I havent found a good deal on a few pieces yet so the gear isnt totally finished (im not paying 400g for another underworld band, etc.). But even with this gear at 38 any non twink char wont survive one round of dots and unless they are a high stam warrior or something a twink char has a hard time with it.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Solstice

9/13/2007 4:17:30 PM

Azaka
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Quote :
"what's that addon that modifies your spell tooltips so you can see how much dmg your spells actually do?"


DrDamage

9/13/2007 4:19:49 PM

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