http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398061&page=29

evidence that 2 of your main points are wrong. you have been proven wrong and all you do is say either "smear tactics" or you post more copied and pasted bullshit that you posted 20 pages ago

5/1/2006 3:17:21 PM

i dont care about the adl

5/1/2006 3:17:25 PM

I'll let you know this much. I'm about to be an unemployed lawyer--partly due to the amount of time I've been posting on tww. So you can rejoice in that.

5/1/2006 3:19:13 PM

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"The dangerous allure of conspiracy theories Investigation for Baraka, as for all bona fide conspiracy theorists, means perusing obscure, unreliable websites and drawing broad and unverifiable conclusions based on outright lies and snippets of circumstantial evidence. A key point in Baraka's theory is that Israel warned 4,000 of its citizens not to go to work at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11. This untrue rumor originates in a Sept. 17, 2001 report by Al-Manar TV, a source that Baraka did cite in his speech, although he misidentified it as Jordanian. Al-Manar is a Lebanese TV channel affiliated with the Hezbollah terrorist group. "Al-Manar is the first Arab establishment to stage an effective psychological warfare against the Zionist enemy," reads the station's website. Effective when it comes to Amiri Baraka, at least. ...... According to University of Manchester Psychology Professor Cary Cooper, as quoted in the BBC, people come up with conspiracy theories in order to cope with the fear of random, unpredictable violence or death. If fanatical individuals armed only with box-cutters can kill thousands in the heart of the world's most powerful country, it seems that no one can ever be truly safe anywhere. Shifting the blame from individuals to an organized, rational conspiracy executed with the knowledge of secret, supremely powerful global forces restores a sense of security: Violence isn't random and irrational after all. This also explains Baraka's uncompromising rejection of the possibility that King and the Kennedys could have been assassinated without a conspiracy involving the powers that be. In reality, it is perfectly logical that individual actors or small groups killed these great men; people acting alone kill other people every day. But there is something ugly about facing the fact that larger-than-life heroes beloved by millions can be killed at random by unpredictable individuals. It forces us to confront not only the fragility of our own lives, but the chaotic, dark side of humanity. ...... Whoever this secret force is alleged to be—often a minority or otherwise ill-understood group suitable for becoming a scapegoat—is transformed into the "real enemy," with potentially disastrous consequences if the conspiracy theory gains widespread acceptance. Jews, the archetypal "other" of European history, have frequently been assigned the role of the enemy in conspiracy theories, but virtually any group can fill the position. In Protestant countries, including this one, Catholics were often accused of executing secret "Popish" conspiracies. And Middle Eastern men are now at great risk of becoming the scapegoats of this new wave of conspiracy theorists."

http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=1859

5/1/2006 3:20:27 PM

also because you are incapable of logic

5/1/2006 3:20:31 PM

dont start collecting welfare.
it was invented by the jews to keep the white man down

5/1/2006 3:20:43 PM

Did the zionists get you fired?

5/1/2006 3:20:51 PM

"dangerous"

OMG! we need to lock up these people

5/1/2006 3:21:00 PM

well, no. it doesn't say that at all.

thats misrepresentation

5/1/2006 3:22:04 PM

who is your employer and what is your name and address

5/1/2006 3:26:03 PM

why?

5/1/2006 3:26:43 PM

because if you live in the wrong place it will be proof the government planted you here so that we dont take the conspiracy seriously, ensuring the government can get away with it

5/1/2006 3:27:54 PM

im proving that you are just trolling

but if you are afraid to post it you can just admit you are a pussy who hides behind a computer

5/1/2006 3:28:20 PM

and what would be a "wrong" place?

5/1/2006 3:28:53 PM

Quote :

"just admit you are a pussy who hides behind a computer"

5/1/2006 3:30:35 PM

we will know when we see it.

stop demanding proof. my msm sources arent good enough for you.

[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 3:31 PM. Reason : p]

5/1/2006 3:31:14 PM

Quote :

"im proving that you are just trolling but if you are afraid to post it you can just admit you are a pussy who hides behind a computer"

please

almost everyone on tww (probably 95-99%) does not give out their full name, employer, address, and other similar information

but I don't see you calling all these people trolls for failing to give out all this info

YOU are the troll. You have admitted trolling me in this thread (not that we needed that admission, since it was blatantly obvious).

5/1/2006 3:34:59 PM

most people would if you asked them

and i already gave my information, where is yours?


oh thats right

you are a pussy

5/1/2006 3:39:12 PM

Quote :

"all insults no evidence or rational argument"

Who is avoiding a rational argument?

Same questions....22 pages later...

No, bin Laden didn't have any motive to carry out the 9/11 attacks.

Its not like he issued a fatwah or anything urging muslims to kill americans.

Keep ignoring evidence, little buddy.

Quote :

"Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998 Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh ... All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God." This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'" We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson."

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm

Could you please address these questions? I'm not trying to redirect or distract here. I'm genuinely curious. You made statements regarding all of these questions in this very thread, I would just like you to explain them before moving on. I questioned these claims when they were originally made, but you ignored me. Why won't you answer them?

Why didn't they build a pipeline in 1998? Why did they blow up their own african embassies and then launch a missile attack on Afghanistan? They were set to build a natural gas pipeline with the Taliban then. Why mess that up for no reason?

You don't believe that Afghanistan was invaded for the sake of a pipeline? Then why are you defending that theory so stubbornly?

You just said that Afghanistan was invaded so that a pipeline could be built. Now you're saying that the zionists wanted to prevent the building of a pipeline - just like how Iraq was invaded to secure the oil supply even though the zionists don't care about the oil supply. How do you reconcile all of the conflicting information that you spout off on here?

By the way, how did the zionists cause the US Civil War and the Revolutionary War?

I would also like to see some proof that Pearl Harbor was caused by the evil edomite zionists.

You have provided absolutely no evidence at all that the Rothschilds are the zionists at the top running world events. They were a prominent family that supported the creation of a jewish state, that is all. Please provide some evidence other than "Here are some rich jews!"

So why should anyone believe your rantings anyway You have admitted that you hate jews. As such, you are far from an impartial source when you blame jews for every problem in the world.

So when was the Israeli false flag terrorist attack in Washington state?

Why is it spamming if I repeat unanswered questions, but it's ok for you to repost the same article in the same thread five times?

5/1/2006 3:39:36 PM

HEY THEDUKE STOP BEING A PUSSY

PUSSY

5/1/2006 3:45:29 PM

Quote :

"and i already gave my information, where is yours? "

I don't know who your employer is JonHguth. Who is it?

Don't be a hypocrite now.

5/1/2006 3:45:29 PM

Ahahaha. This site is great.

Quote :

"All the Schemes That Are Fit To Print The Exciting History of a Conspiracy and Its Protocols The original Cabal in Prague Cemetery gave rise to few protocols - only 24, in fact - but the Elders of Zion have diligently added to that list over the years. Here are some examples of past protocols, each devilishly designed to confound the gentiles: 1866: Protocol XCI, the Size of Currency Protocol, makes the US five-cent piece, or nickel, thicker and broader than the more valuable dime. Mass confusion ensues, and many people under-pay charwomen, thereby fomenting Bolshevism among the scrubbing classes. An addendum to this protocol leads, in the 1970s, to the creation of the Susan B. Anthony dollar, sized the same as a quarter. Mass panic follows as many people unknowingly over-pay for their newspapers and leave extravagant tips. The unclaimed tip revenue alone results in a massive $970 loss for the IRS, a deficit erstwhile CIA director George Bush, Sr., can only recoup through the sale of chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein. The International Jewish Conspiracy brokers the transfer of what is later revealed to have been 30,000 liquid tons of ginger ale. The real chemicals are diverted to make the orange color used in cheese-flavored snacks. 1891: The Tiny French Elevator Protocol means dozens of French claustrophobics are forced to take the stairs, resulting in many hours of lost work time. Leaving for their offices early in order to compensate, these poor gentiles are forced to drink less coffee, resulting in a 0.000000385% fall in coffee exports from both Africa and South America, and a general feeling of sluggishness, or else to drink faster, causing hypertension. Possibly related to the growth of the divorce rate in northern Europe. American tourists, shocked at the stinginess of French elevators, begin planning holidays in the Poconos. 1895: The Sound and Light Protocol calls for the invention of moving pictures. Auguste and Louis Lumierewitz change their names and go undercover to plant the seeds of globalized bad taste. A visionary plan. Mass panic ensues but is quickly replaced by inertia. Jewish grain dealers around the world diligently unload tons of otherwise worthless kernels of dried corn devoid of flavor. International Jewish Conspiracy members celebrate at the home of a man named Oscar. 1920: The Eighteenth Amendment Protocol is enacted by the puppet Congress of the United States and becomes more widely known as Prohibition. At least fourteen people die at the mere idea of the ban; seizing their chance, the Elders of Zion institute the Mafia, create the Canadian border, and invent bootleg liquor. Meanwhile, unprecedented incidents of sober driving incite car manufacturers to build increasingly fast vehicles. Coupled with crippling traffic, these potential speeds will one day lead to a phenomenon known to the gentiles as Road Rage, but to International Jewish Conspiracy members by its more accurate and menacing name, Goy Rage. 1942: Protocol CVII – the so-called Barbra Streisand Protocol - leads to the birth of Barbra Streisand. Mass panic ensues. The US, Belgium, France, Uzbekistan, Spain and Madagascar sever diplomatic ties with the Conspiracy. Reconciliation requires several years of difficult negociations and, in strict accordance with IJC tradition, performance of the ancient Ritual of the Armed Invation of Grenada, executed in 1983 to confirm ratification. 1950: Media manipulation under the Shlong Directive (sub-section D-6 of the infamous Protocol CLXI) creates an explosion of stories about the virility of black males. The American Heritage Foundation fights back with the ill-fated “Size Doesn’t Matter” Initiative; no one buys it. Their next counter offensive, “The Motion of the Ocean,” meets with greater success but is finally dismissed by most observers as “too little, too late.""

http://www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com/articles/archive.html

5/1/2006 3:47:27 PM

Spamming

5/1/2006 3:56:14 PM

Hey Guth...I mean "overthrower"

5/1/2006 4:00:51 PM

?

Hi Mathew?

5/1/2006 4:01:20 PM

It's obvious "overthrower" is you Guth.

"JonHGuth" just got suspended. And no more 2-3 minutes later "overthrower" is bttt'ing a bunch of threads--including my threads.

5/1/2006 4:03:19 PM

who?

5/1/2006 4:07:12 PM

just how stupid do you think I and the others here are guth?

5/1/2006 4:09:36 PM

someone asked for guth?

5/1/2006 4:10:04 PM

we couldn't possibly express how stupid we think you are in a manner in which you would understand the severity of your diminished mental capacity

you didn't understand that sentence either though, did you?

5/1/2006 4:10:47 PM

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"I don't know who your employer is JonHguth. Who is it? Don't be a hypocrite now."

5/1/2006 4:13:37 PM

HUGE SMOKING GUN--NYC MAYOR RUDOLPH GIULIANI TOLD IN ADVANCE THAT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS WERE GOING TO COLLAPSE

Just watch this short video clip from a local ABC News station where Peter Jennings is interviewing Rudolph Giuiani (go to around 50 seconds into the clip for relevant comments):

http://terrorize.dk/911/comments/911.wtc.giuliani.was.warned.wmv

Quote :

"PETER JENNINGS:...Did you go immediately to the office of emergency management? RUDOLPH GIULIANI: I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barklay Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the head of emergency management. And we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building. So we were trapped in the building for 10-15 minutes, and finally found an exit, got out walked north and took a lot of people with us."

5/1/2006 4:14:55 PM

Don't be a "pussy" guth. Just answer the question and admit your other alias(es).

You don't want to be a hypocrite and a "pussy" do you?

5/1/2006 4:15:53 PM

Because you're a hypocrite if you don't answer questions, right little buddy?

5/1/2006 4:18:09 PM

OH THE IRONY

I'M IN THE MIDST OF IRONY OVERLOAD

5/1/2006 4:21:05 PM

Quote :

"Just watch this short video clip from a local ABC News station where Peter Jennings is interviewing Rudolph Giuiani"

And now Peter Jennings is dead. Coincidence?

5/1/2006 4:22:32 PM

Cancer is not a natural disease, this is no coincidence.

5/1/2006 4:26:35 PM

Peter Jennings cancered?

5/1/2006 4:27:08 PM

CANCERED MERE MONTHS AFTER GETTING US CITIZENSHIP!!!!1

OMF SMOKING GUN!

5/1/2006 4:32:53 PM

He came in through Canada, that should set off red flags.

5/1/2006 4:36:52 PM

zionist tobacco companies

oh shit

i bet he'll run with that one

5/1/2006 4:41:27 PM

You don't need tobacco when you control the water supply

But yes, the tobacco companies are part of the same lobby (read: gang, cabal)

5/1/2006 4:43:15 PM

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation:

DisinformationRule1: Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

DisinformationRule2: Become incredulous and indignant

DisinformationRule3: Create rumor mongers

DisinformationRule4: Use a straw man

DisinformationRule5: Sidetrack opponents with name calling, ridicule

This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

DisinformationRule6: Hit and Run

DisinformationRule7: Question motives

DisinformationRule8: Invoke authority

DisinformationRule9: Play Dumb

DisinformationRule10: Associate opponent charges with old news

DisinformationRule11: Establish and rely upon fall-back positions

DisinformationRule12: Enigmas have no solution

DisinformationRule13: Alice in Wonderland Logic

DisinformationRule14: Demand complete solutions

DisinformationRule15: Fit the facts to alternate conclusions

DisinformationRule16: Vanish evidence and witnesses

DisinformationRule17: Change the subject

Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can "argue" with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

DisinformationRule18: Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad

If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how "sensitive they are to criticism".

DisinformationRule19: Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs

DisinformationRule20: False evidence

DisinformationRule21: Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor

DisinformationRule22: Manufacture a new truth

DisinformationRule23: Create bigger distractions

DisinformationRule24: Silence critics

DisinformationRule25: Vanish

5/1/2006 4:49:11 PM

you are all disinformation agents

5/1/2006 4:51:40 PM

or people just using disinformation tactics, guth

5/1/2006 4:52:35 PM

i am not guth
it appears that user is suspended

5/1/2006 4:54:32 PM

YOU ARE A MEATHEAD

5/1/2006 4:54:44 PM

I'M TOTALLY AN AGENT OF DISINFORMATION

YOU CAN'T TELL, BECAUSE I'M JUST SOME DUDE ON A COLLEGE MESSAGE BOARD

BUT IF WE HAD COFFEE, YOU'D WALK AWAY AND BE LIKE "THAT GUY IS ONE EDOMITE SON OF A BITCH"

5/1/2006 4:55:42 PM

Quote :

"i am not guth"

actually, you probably are

but my main point is that you are "JonHGuth"

and everybody now knows that. no use in denying it.

5/1/2006 4:57:38 PM

YOU KOOK

5/1/2006 5:00:05 PM