hehe, nice.

5/9/2010 6:33:30 PM

sweet, BTStack supports a mouse on jailbroken iPads. my wife's macbook is nearing the end of its usefulness, so i got her an iPad for casual use, and when she needs to be productive, we can just hook up a mouse and keyboard and have her remote desktop into our windows 7 desktop

5/9/2010 10:44:33 PM

That's pretty awesome, Bluetooth mouse. I wonder if that is any Bluetooth mouse, or just Apple ones only. That might be the first real reason I'd have to jailbreak.

[Edited on May 9, 2010 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]

5/9/2010 10:56:48 PM

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" Not only did it worked with Apple Magic Mouse, but also with almost all the other Bluetooth enabled mice I had."

Source

5/9/2010 11:27:28 PM

Jailbroke my iPad 3g today ... so many great apps already in the jailbroken library ...

this REALLY IS magical

5/10/2010 7:04:37 AM

^like? I'm debating whether to or not but so far I've not had any really compelling reasons other than "it's awesome" and multi-tasking.

5/10/2010 7:29:41 AM

^^ What jailbreak apps do you recommend? I have been using backgrounder for multi-tasking and that has been working nicely so far

5/10/2010 8:03:25 AM

^ Snap. Another good reason to jailbreak. Mouse + task switching = good.

5/10/2010 8:45:56 AM

installous which gives you most of the better apps available for free ... playing RealRacingHD right now.

I have not bothered with any of the "jailbreak only" apps yet ... but I will likely setup the mouse/multitasking/fullforce (allow iphone apps to work in full screen mode on ipad (without pixelation).

5/10/2010 8:50:31 AM

Is Spirit still the only iPad jailbreak available right now?

5/10/2010 9:04:25 AM

My favorite part to that video is the music.

So incredibly mocking it makes me smile

5/10/2010 9:10:43 AM

Yes I believe Spirit is the only on available currently.

Are there any performance issues with apps installed through installous?

Also, how do you update installous apps?

5/10/2010 9:29:06 AM

Ok, so I can understand using a mouse with something like iTeleport although using multi touch has not been a problem for me with Mac OS X.

But why in the world would anyone want to use a mouse as an input device for the iPad itself?

5/10/2010 3:00:14 PM

I know Steve hates them. I can't blame him. He has failed to make a competent mouse every time he has tried.

But they are an excellent input control. Touch simply doesn't offer the precision or control that a mouse does.

Having one on such a mobile platform as an iPad could have many good uses. Productivity software, entertainment, Presentations, etc.

Though I have to somewhat agree; if it were that important to me, I would have a netbook. Doesn't hurt to have the option, though.

5/10/2010 3:29:42 PM

^^ Two words: keyboard dock.

5/10/2010 3:47:47 PM

maybe someone can design a sturdy case, almost tower like that you could "store" the ipad in!!! oh, and some expansion slots and a fan!

5/10/2010 3:47:49 PM

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"I know Steve hates them. I can't blame him. He has failed to make a competent mouse every time he has tried."

You, sir, are seriously misinformed. Why do computers have a mouse today? Because of Apple 25 years ago.

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"But they are an excellent input control. Touch simply doesn't offer the precision or control that a mouse does."

I would completely agree if we were talking about a Windows 7 tablet but we're talking about an OS that was designed for touch from the ground up. There is nothing in iPhone OS that is difficult to do with touch.


[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 4:14:38 PM

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"You, sir, are seriously misinformed. Why do computers have a mouse today? Because of Apple 25 years ago."

I didn't say Apple wasn't the first to do it. Their mice are garbage. I am nearly convinced thats why they have gotten behind touch so strongly. Their input devices are a joke; It is like they are incapable of making a good one.

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"There is nothing in iPhone OS that is difficult to do with touch."

Pretty much any kind of content creation is aided by a mouse. Control precision, text manipulation (hello copy paste), etc.

5/10/2010 4:29:16 PM

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"you, sir, are seriously misinformed. Why do computers have a mouse today? Because of Apple 25 years ago."

Not entirely true. They just sold the first consumer computer with a mouse. Douglas Engelbart invented the mouse and patented it way back in the 70's. With the actual mouse x/y idea popping up in the mid 50's. Logitech now hosts Douglas's company.

Apple still can't make a good mouse.

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"I would completely agree if we were talking about a Windows 7 tablet"

Or an OSX tablet or Linux tablet. Desktop OS's were designed for mouse/keyboard input.

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"There is nothing in iPhone OS that is difficult to do with touch."

Well obviously because everything was developed with touch input in mind. Although there are plenty of apps that could be more accurate with a mouse input. painting/cad/design apps would all benefit from a more accurate input source. Think the iPad should just stick to touch though. If people really want all this mouse/keyboard support just get a damn laptop.

5/10/2010 4:32:07 PM

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"Not entirely true. They just sold the first consumer computer with a mouse. Douglas Engelbart invented the mouse and patented it way back in the 70's. With the actual mouse x/y idea popping up in the mid 50's. Logitech now hosts Douglas's company. "

I didn't say Apple invented it. I said they are responsible for us using it 25 years later, which they are.

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"Apple still can't make a good mouse"

Apple makes a good mouse for their OS. Do they make a good gaming mouse or a mouse good for windows? no.

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"Or an OSX tablet or Linux tablet. Desktop OS's were designed for mouse/keyboard input. "

So we do agree.

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" Although there are plenty of apps that could be more accurate with a mouse input. painting/cad/design apps would all benefit from a more accurate input source. Think the iPad should just stick to touch though. If people really want all this mouse/keyboard support just get a damn laptop."

Thats why I use my laptop for these programs.

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"Pretty much any kind of content creation is aided by a mouse. Control precision, text manipulation (hello copy paste), etc."

copy/paste works great with touch. Now if i were trying to copy paste on a desktop OS with touch then yeah. I'd be pissed and need a mouse.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 4:47:32 PM

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"Apple makes a good mouse for their OS."

No, they don't.

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"copy/paste works great with touch"

You can't honestly tell me that you think you can be just as efficient copying and pasting items via touch with the iPhone OS as you would be with a pointing device.

I'm not arguing that the iPad is a pain to use and would prefer a mouse. But I am not going to pretend that adding a pointing device to the current incarnation of the iPad/iPhone OS wouldn't make multiple tasks easier and more efficient.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM. Reason : *]

5/10/2010 4:59:02 PM

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"You can't honestly tell me that you think you can be just as efficient copying and pasting items via touch with the iPhone OS as you would be with a pointing device. I'm not arguing that the iPad is a pain to use and would prefer a mouse. But I am not going to pretend that adding a pointing device to the current incarnation of the iPad/iPhone OS wouldn't make multiple tasks easier and more efficient."

yes, actually. Copy/paste works just as great. tap -> select -> drag handles if you need several words. *done*

its a different concept but it works well for its platform. Everyones got their preferences so its really just a matter of opinion and what you're comfortable with using.

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"No, they don't."

Matter of opinion. Do I use an apple mouse at home? no because it sucks for gaming. At work I do because for what I do there its more than enough. Actually, for everything other than gaming, I'd rather use the touch pad.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 5:04:05 PM

The only thing I've net so far from jailbreaking mine has been a LOT of crashes. Installous sounds useful but I don't have to source with that.

What task switcher are you guys using? I tried Kirikae but it crashes every single time.

5/10/2010 5:51:16 PM

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"Although there are plenty of apps that could be more accurate with a mouse input. painting/cad/design apps would all benefit from a more accurate input source."

FWIW, those apps would benefit even more from a stylus device than a mouse. Ultimately when you think about it, touch really is the best way to do most things as it is the most direct way to issue communication. The problem as noted is a matter of precision, but for most things, the precision of your finger is more than sufficient. As long as the resolution of the touch sensor is equal to the screen, touch is the way to go for portable computing I think.

That isn't to say mice don't serve a purpose, and certainly I could see a mouse as a docked component for when you're typing at the keyboard dock, but mice should not be a major part of this experience. Less devices and interfaces between you and the action you want to take is best.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/10/2010 7:02:30 PM

^ agreed.

My only gripe with stylus for drawing is that it doesn't provide the same amount of friction as drawing on paper so its a lot harder to get used to. Using one of those wacom tablets has always sucked for me for drawing...but if I can draw on the same surface that the image is projected that would make things a lot easier

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 7:42 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 7:40:48 PM

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"The only thing I've net so far from jailbreaking mine has been a LOT of crashes. Installous sounds useful but I don't have to source with that. What task switcher are you guys using? I tried Kirikae but it crashes every single time. "

Did you even bother to read the full page message that pops up every time you open Cydia? While the iPad is similar in many ways to the iPhone, it's still very different in many important ways. It's going to take a little more than a week for them to get everything working. I've paid attention to the compatibility list and haven't had a single crash yet. I can't see why you'd bother complaining about something that's essentially in it's infancy.

5/10/2010 7:57:27 PM

I didn't expect every app to work instantly. I did misread the Gizmodo article and try some apps that didn't have (iPad) after them but even some of the ones they list are working for the iPad crashed for me.

Thanks for that compatibility spreadsheet, that is really handy to have.

5/10/2010 10:18:49 PM

Does anyone else find it impossible to rate anything in the Netflix app?

5/11/2010 7:22:00 AM

The netflix app is the biggest piece of shit ever. If it wasn't for the simple ability to watch instant movies on your iPad that shit would get 1 star. Perfect example of lazy developers. All they did was load the website in an app.

5/11/2010 8:12:15 AM

Wow ... that bad ehh? I was considering signing up for netflix again, but if thats all they did, then to hell with that.

Not really enough content on netflix anyhow to get my moneys worth.

5/11/2010 8:15:35 AM

If you don't already have netflix its not worth getting just for the app.

You'd have a more enjoyable experience downloading Air Video and streaming your own library. Especially since it converts MKV's and formats i've never even heard of on the fly.

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 8:16 AM. Reason : .]

5/11/2010 8:16:37 AM

I've liked it... No way I am ripping all my DVDs so I can stream

5/11/2010 9:43:44 PM

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/11/add-gps-to-your-jailbroken-wifi-ipad-with-btstack-gps/

Now you can add an external bluetooth GPS dongle to your iPad WiFi. I can't imagine it will be too long before they write an app for the iPhone that allows you to share that info with your iPad. At that point, there really will be no difference between the 3G and WiFi versions of the iPad for people with iPhones.

5/12/2010 3:34:58 AM

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"At that point, there really will be no difference between the 3G and WiFi versions of the iPad for people with iPhones."

sure there will. you won't be paying for two data plans

5/12/2010 11:48:19 AM

so is anybody tethering their iphone to a (jailbroken) ipad? i think i saw that it was doable now, but that it demolishes the iphone battery.

i haven't needed 3G on my wifi ipad yet, but i probably would like to have it at some point

5/12/2010 1:15:39 PM

What kind of tethering are you talking about? I'm not aware of any method that requires a jailbroken iPad. Just the MyWi type programs are the only way I know about. I downloaded MyWi this weekend and tried it out on my iPad. Worked just like it was supposed to. I only tried it out for a couple of minutes, so I can't speak on the battery hit the iPhone took. I never noticed anything too bad when I bluetooth tether to my macbook.

5/12/2010 2:28:31 PM

^^its the device thats connecting to 3g that needs to be jailbroken (iphone) not the device tethered to it.

5/12/2010 2:38:35 PM

5/13/2010 1:30:32 AM

^CRAZY POWERFUL 1GHz ARM processor w/ 256mb of RAM

5/13/2010 1:36:59 AM

http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2010/05/what-ipads-did-to-my-family.html

This shit is going to dominate -- it will be the main computer most households use at home. Probably will pass netbooks in a year or 2.

5/13/2010 9:14:08 PM

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"Probably will pass netbooks in a year or 2."

you just stirred the hornets nest

5/13/2010 9:26:22 PM

Has anyone tried one of the pens out yet? Are there any local stores that usually carry them? I'd really like to try one out after doing a test run with sketchpad today on a job site.

5/13/2010 9:39:40 PM

You just need a frozen sausage.

5/13/2010 9:40:25 PM

For some reason, there's 2-3 threads on tww that refuse to format to the correct width and there's no reason that I can tell. It only shows up on tww. Anyone else experience this?

5/15/2010 10:20:58 AM

too long of a URL

5/15/2010 7:50:29 PM

I feel like the stream of great apps is slowing... Someone recommend a fairly new iPad app to keep my interest

5/15/2010 8:24:40 PM

The problem with Apple is they have this mentality that "If IBM-compatible devices do it, Apple devices don't need to do it."

It's like Ford announcing tomorrow that they will no longer put motors in their cars because Chevrolet puts them in their cars.

5/15/2010 9:14:10 PM

Congrats. You win the award for "stupid" on this page. What exactly is it that Apple has decided none of their products need to do? I'm guessing that you're one of the dumbasses on the iPad/flash bandwagon but feel free to explain. I'm really curious as to what I've missed while using Apple products.

5/15/2010 9:28:22 PM

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"The problem with Apple is they have this mentality that "If IBM-compatible devices do it, Apple devices don't need to do it." It's like Ford announcing tomorrow that they will no longer put motors in their cars because Chevrolet puts them in their cars."

lol what? Were you drunk when you posted this?

[Edited on May 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM. Reason : I haven't heard the phrase 'IBM compatible' in at least a decade rofl.]

5/15/2010 10:22:46 PM

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"What exactly is it that Apple has decided none of their products need to do?"

Sync error free with windows machines?

5/15/2010 10:52:53 PM