Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
lol 6/7/2014 6:17:28 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Lol 6/9/2014 7:52:09 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
lol
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/doeren-progress-likely-but-it-will-be-a-bumpy-ride/13874112/ 8/7/2014 12:53:49 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
lol 8/7/2014 1:16:36 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
lol 8/7/2014 1:25:29 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Fucking bump. 8/30/2014 1:48:22 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Fire this fucker at half 8/30/2014 1:50:21 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
This is a Fucking disgrace 8/30/2014 1:51:00 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah this is embarrassing. Our offense is atrocious. No idea if it's the personnel or the coaching or both. 8/30/2014 1:55:37 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
This is the first year I can remember where I wasn't excited for the start of college football.
I was really hoping that a strong start to the season would help me forget that abortion of a year we just had. Doesn't appear to be the case. 8/30/2014 1:57:39 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
What a shameful head coach 8/30/2014 2:04:34 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I mean I am all for giving guys a few years but that's when you are at least wining the games you should win. If you go 0-8 in the acc then the following year lose at home to a new fbs school you deserve to be fired. We need to write some clauses into our next coaches contract that says as much. 8/30/2014 2:06:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Is the game done? 8/30/2014 2:11:45 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Go Pack?
Go Pack??
Go Pack your shit and get out of here Doeren! 8/30/2014 2:44:58 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
who the fuck would take this job if we fired Doeren already? 8/30/2014 2:48:59 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
dumbshits could have had James Franklin 8/30/2014 2:57:31 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
in what universe could we have hired james franklin? that was a pipe dream 8/30/2014 2:59:35 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Our secondary sucks shit 8/30/2014 3:00:19 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ before he went to Vandy and was at Maryland... he was going to take it but apparently didnt have a good relationship with Yow from Maryland 8/30/2014 3:08:01 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
the ACC is going to wipe their ass with this team. 8/30/2014 3:08:34 PM |
WolfPack2017 Veteran 218 Posts user info edit post |
So now everyone is on the anti-Doeren train.....now I don't look so ridiculous. 8/30/2014 3:12:59 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Well get plenty of points playing against 2nd and 3rd string Ds 8/30/2014 3:15:51 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Call a timeout and Fire this fuck stick 8/30/2014 3:20:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
what critics 8/30/2014 3:47:47 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
UNDEFEATED! 8/30/2014 3:49:29 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
First win since Sept! Woot woot. Time for a Paul Hewitt style extension 8/30/2014 3:50:40 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ before he went to Vandy and was at Maryland... he was going to take it but apparently didnt have a good relationship with Yow from Maryland " |
Actually...you stupid fat fuck...Yow and Franklin are butt buddies. The only reason we even had a sliver of a chance with him was because of Yow. Go eat a bag of dicks and cuddle with your stupid purse puppy.8/30/2014 4:00:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ before he went to Vandy and was at Maryland... he was going to take it but apparently didnt have a good relationship with Yow from Maryland " |
i dont remember, so i really don't know. But looking back...if it was between TOB, a proven commodity at BC, and Franklin..an assistant from MD. I think I'd have been on the TOB bandwagon.
Either way, the past is the past. Can't change it.8/30/2014 4:02:42 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ such a simple minded child 8/30/2014 4:18:31 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
You're the one trollling your alma mater's message board you gigantic black pot. 8/30/2014 4:37:17 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
saying that I wish State had hired a coach who is known for being really good, yeah, major trolling there. What a moron. 8/30/2014 4:50:46 PM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
+1 point of credibility for a win
+1 point of credibility for keeping the team together enough to come from behind
That's it for now. 8/30/2014 5:04:10 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Jaybee is wrong about the reasons we didn't hire James Franklin 8/30/2014 10:57:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Its august. Lets hold off on judgement for now. Last year was on tob. 8/30/2014 11:05:17 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Well shit. I agree with E Man.
Last year was fucking awful. But I think there were certainly some positives to take away from this game today...and hopefully we'll see improvements going forward. I'm not ready to pass judgement on DD yet. 8/30/2014 11:38:03 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
If anything he needs to hold our DC accountable for us looking completely unprepared to play an option team 8/31/2014 12:42:04 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "saying that I wish State had hired a coach who is known for being really good, yeah, major trolling there. What a moron. " |
As opposed to a coach who won two conference championships and took Northern Illinois to a fucking BCS bowl?? You fucking idiot.8/31/2014 2:37:42 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If anything he needs to hold our DC accountable for us looking completely unprepared to play an option team" |
Hard to prepare for everything. The GSU coaches from last year that ran the option left and they brought in the staff from SJSU. All reports were that GSU was shifting to a mix of the pistol and spread offense(what the coaches ran at SJSU). So our DC had to prepare for potentially 3 offensive schemes and then they came out and basically ran no spread and really only ran the option.
Our scheme is a 4-2-5 which is geared to stop the spread/pass happy offenses. So it's a bad match-up and our DC had limited information on what to prepare for. So we probably spent a little bit of time on the triple option(mainly because we knew they might run it and because we eventually play GT), but the first half you could definitely tell we were surprised that they reverted back to basically only running the option.
So we're rolling out several young guys on D, we were caught off guard to some extent with the offense they ran, and it was a bad match-up schematically, and in the second half we still adjusted and only gave up 6 points.8/31/2014 8:59:16 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Not watching this season but it's clear doeren isn't going to succeed here. He had all off season to implement his scheme and we've regressed. 9/2/2014 12:35:51 AM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Lol 9/2/2014 12:43:36 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " and took Northern Illinois to a fucking BCS bowl??" |
Technically, he didn't take them to a bcs game.9/2/2014 12:51:15 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Technically he did. He did everything except coach them in that particular game. But he did everything to get them eligible and picked for that bowl game.
Technically the bus driver took them to the BCS game if you want to be a twat about it. 9/2/2014 6:18:44 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. 9/2/2014 6:52:45 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not watching this season but it's clear doeren isn't going to succeed here. He had all off season to implement his scheme and we've regressed." |
face...my man!9/2/2014 8:43:13 AM |
tmntmike87 New Recruit 27 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Last year was on tob." |
I've heard it a hundred times and still can't understand that reasoning. No TOB wasn't a great coach, but am I the only person that remembers we went to 3 straight bowl games, and won the 2 he coached in, before Doeren came in and lost every ACC game? I know the excuse is TOB had shitty recruits, but a GOOD coach would have been able to win at least one ACC game with them, and beat Richmond by more than a last second field goal. If we had been a only a 2-4 win team before Doeren, that's one thing, but blaming last year on TOB is ridiculous.
Anyway this isn't last year. I saw nothing impressive from the coaching Saturday, but I'm biased and admit that because I haven't been happy about Doeren as a hire from day one. However, with our schedule, it will be hard to really make a call on his coaching credibility based on this season until we get past these first 4 cupcake games and see how we can stack up against a credible opponent.9/2/2014 9:58:48 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
^Do you not remember Pete fucking Thomas, man. TOB wasn't gonna do shit with last year's team. That team was fucking garbage no matter who was coaching.
Maybe...maybe TOB wins one or two more games that DD last year. So what? Then we're 4-8 or whatever and still shitty. You can't seriously believe we would've been good with TOB at the helm last year. He had two great QBs during his time at NC State...and the best he could muster was a fucking 5-3 record in the ACC. That was the high point of his tenure.
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 10:30 AM. Reason : d] 9/2/2014 10:27:50 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^^TOB had 2 NFL(one SB-winning) QBs in succession at NC State and still never really made any noise nationally. I'm sure TOB and his scheme might have won an ACC game or 2 with Pete Thomas, but we likely wouldn't have made a bowl game last year and I'd rather have 1 horrible year and start building something that has potential to be above-average(6 wins is average) in a couple of years than constantly set our team's ceiling at 7 or 8 wins.
[Edited on September 2, 2014 at 10:30 AM. Reason : ^^] 9/2/2014 10:30:01 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
not just NFL qbs either, guys that started as rookies. two of them! five straight years of qbs that would START AS ROOKIES IN THE LEAGUE. 9/2/2014 10:46:17 AM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
UNDEFEATED IN AUGUST! +1 9/2/2014 10:56:34 AM |
tmntmike87 New Recruit 27 Posts user info edit post |
Oh I remember Pete Thomas, however I still think with the schedule we had last year, not winning at least 6 was pathetic. I even said TOB wasn't a great coach, but I do think he was a good coach with poor recruitment skills. I'm just saying you can't blame the year on him. There were too many coaching/play calling errors last year to put sole blame on Pete Thomas, Brandon Mitchell, or any other sub par talent. Countless times on 3rd and long calling a run or throw behind the line of scrimmage play last year. Not to mention that fake punt, even if that had work it was stupid.
You're also saying that good QB's made TOB look good. Obviously Doeren only looks good with a nfl quality QB as well, or we would have been better last year. In my opinion a great coach can work with mediocre talent and make it look good, and take good talent to great. As of now, I think DD can recruit talented players, however, I'm not sold that he can coach them to its greatest potential. That's what I want to see for credibility. 9/2/2014 11:14:17 AM |