TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
A quick online search didn't find it, but yes there is one. On Outside The Lines, they showed it, and said McCants consented to ESPN using it. 6/8/2014 11:44:56 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Wonder if his jail statement lines up with taking "regular" classes. 6/8/2014 12:45:47 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 25840 Posts user info edit post |
6/8/2014 7:50:40 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
6/8/2014 8:04:47 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 25840 Posts user info edit post |
He actually does sound pretty intelligent in the interview. 6/8/2014 8:19:57 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^ Stop saying stuff like that. Just because a guy comes to play ball and skips out of class does not mean that he is going to be an incomprehensible idiot.
Roy's interview with jay is such BS. I hate it when they give a guy a platform to ignore allegations, but the "interviewer" is not allowed to poke and prod at the rediculosity in the answer.
"Rashad claimed that his papers were written for him, is that true"
-" IDK bro"
"Sounds good. Next question."
[Edited on June 9, 2014 at 4:25 AM. Reason : d] 6/9/2014 4:23:47 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/release-transcripts/ 6/9/2014 12:26:34 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
(from previous page)
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/06/06/3917363/2005-unc-champs-relied-on-suspect.html
Quote : | "Data she provided to The News & Observer show that five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met. The data also show that the five athletes accounted for 13 enrollments that were accurately identified as independent studies.
Those classes are also suspect because for much of the last decade, the department offered far more independent studies than it could properly supervise, previous reviews have shown." |
[Edited on June 9, 2014 at 12:30 PM. Reason : ]6/9/2014 12:30:20 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^^That's a really good point. If the athletes are so sure they are in the clear they should open up their info for scrutiny.
Now certainly the argument could be made that no one shouldn't feel obligated to have to try and prove innocence and I would wholeheartedly agree and defend this. If the players and Roy had just decided to stay out of it or just a simple statement or something I would understand and not expect anything. But once you go with these strong denials and dog and pony show antics then you should have to put your money where your mouth is. 6/9/2014 1:03:51 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23249 Posts user info edit post |
of course they signed their names.
they can't read...so they had no idea what they were signing. 6/9/2014 2:23:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
So this is part of the statement that a bunch of McCants' teammates released
Quote : | "Sixteen players from North Carolina's 2005 national championship team issued the following statement Friday responding to former teammate Rashad McCants' allegations of academic misconduct:
"We are proud of our accomplishments both on and off the floor at UNC. With conviction, each one of us is proud to say that we attended class and did our own academic work. We want to thank our advisers and counselors who supported us, while also maintaining the integrity of the institution. We also want to make it clear that Coach Williams and his staff operated with the highest level of ethics and integrity within their respective roles. We are forever grateful for the lessons we learned on the court, in the classroom and during our time in Chapel Hill." |
One of the teammates who signed this, was Sean May. Which makes this interesting:
Quote : | "Afro-American and African studies, May said, offered “more independent electives, independent study. I could take a lot of classes during the season. Communications, I had to be there in the actual classroom.”" |
The worst part of all this is that nothing is going to happen to these cheating faggots6/9/2014 2:32:39 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7783 Posts user info edit post |
well jay bilas believes whatever roy says...so that's good enough for me
~ Mark Emmert, NCAA 6/9/2014 3:20:17 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
even if it all comes out beyond any doubt, isn't the NCAA statute of limitations 4 years? i expect nothing to happen. 6/9/2014 3:24:29 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
^There's a "willful cheaters" rule that lets them circumvent the statute of limitations and hand out punishments anyway, they threatened Florida (or Miami, I forget) with it. 6/9/2014 3:32:36 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do any of the Kerliner apologists have an excuse for how McCants managed to get straight A's one semester?" |
Exactly. Who gives a shit about how many players say they went to class and did their own work? What's the UNC defense for a player who struggles through college and all of a sudden gets straight A's? He orchestrated the entire thing on his own and it didn't set off any alarm bells for anybody supposed to be monitoring athletes' academics?6/9/2014 3:41:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
^Somebody on IC kind of addressed that earlier...basically said "McCants is very smart, evident by his grades in high school. But he's bipolar, so he probably actually tried in the classroom the semester he made the Deans list blah blah blah"
i lol'd 6/9/2014 3:45:19 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7783 Posts user info edit post |
it's unclear to me - did the UNCCH* Summer of A's™ help his eligibility to play for the "championship", or not? (it makes some difference... he still cheated and shows exactly how that cesspool operates over there) 6/9/2014 4:17:00 PM |
4howl1 All American 4252 Posts user info edit post |
1. I'll repeat what I said about that assclown in 2003: Quote : | "Rashad McCunts is a fucking idiot" |
2. As if the 2005 title weren't already tainted with that bullshit call that they benefited from in the Sweet 16, last week's news certifies yet another taint6/10/2014 12:06:36 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Subject: [FORMAL NOTICE] Message from Chancellor Carol L. Folt
Dear Carolina Community:
Over the past few days, I have received many questions from members of our community in response to an ESPN story on claims – some new, some not – regarding academics and athletics at Carolina. It is clear that our community cares deeply about these issues, and I want to assure you that we are doing our best to resolve remaining questions. I also want to take this opportunity to reconfirm that we are going to respond to these questions at the right time, and to provide some perspective as to how Carolina is moving forward.
First, we take reports of academic irregularities very seriously, which is why UNC President Tom Ross and I hired former federal prosecutor Kenneth Wainstein in February to conduct an independent investigation into these very issues. Mr. Wainstein has full autonomy and authority to ask the tough questions and follow the facts wherever they lead. I believe we have a responsibility to our students, faculty, staff, alumni and University community at large to ensure we get this right, to empower Mr. Wainstein to investigate fully, thoughtfully and without any interference – and I encourage anyone who has relevant information to contact him directly.
This process takes time. Until the investigation is complete, we may not be able to respond to each new report or allegation. In some cases that is because we do not want to jump to conclusions or otherwise impede the investigation. In other cases it is because we must not violate our students’ federally protected privacy rights – even when doing so limits the extent to which we can correct inaccuracies and defend our former student-athletes.
Once we know the extent of Mr. Wainstein’s findings, which he will release to the public, we will take appropriate action, building on the significant reforms we have already implemented. At that time we will also be better equipped to respond to individual claims. Until then, we appreciate your patience and understanding. I encourage you to visit http://carolinacommitment.unc.edu to learn more about our ongoing work.
You and I know that Carolina is so much more than these immediate challenges. As I write this, I am reminded of our faculty and students who are conducting research and innovating to improve lives, as well as our alumni who are leading companies and founding non-profit organizations that serve our state and communities around the globe.
Finally, we recognize that we will remain part of the broader national conversation on these issues. As the nation’s first public university, we also have a responsibility to lead it – both with words and actions. We will do this thoughtfully, responsibly and thoroughly, in the finest traditions of this great University.
Sincerely,
Carol L. Folt" |
6/10/2014 1:13:13 PM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You and I know that Carolina is so much more than these immediate challenges." |
Hahaha O'rly?6/10/2014 1:31:52 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
lolololol, isnt this like the third self investigation? 6/10/2014 1:33:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
lol at that link...2 of the first 5 words are "Transparency" and "Accountability" mentioned. Nothing screams transparency and accountability than denying any wrongdoing and refusing to release any information
has any single institution ever hid behind FERPA as much as these assholes? 6/10/2014 1:42:18 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/unc-chancellor-urges-patience-with-academic-review/13717786/?comment_order=forward 6/10/2014 3:31:47 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
^^ not to mention they wont even release the contract they have with weinstein. We already know what they are paying him, whats to hide?
Lol 6/10/2014 3:41:28 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2261 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/06/09/3923606/uncs-roy-williams-offers-a-porous.html 6/10/2014 3:44:59 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Coach Williams and his staff have always place a priority on self-accountability inside the classroom. I have witnessed this myself" |
Code for "We're about to throw some players under like 20 buses"6/10/2014 3:45:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
^^John Cooper's comments are funny
[Edited on June 10, 2014 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ] 6/10/2014 3:50:38 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
But wait... I thought Roy didn't have anything to do with academics 6/10/2014 4:01:33 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^exacaly
That's where all the talk of "self-accountability" comes in 6/10/2014 4:10:36 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19621 Posts user info edit post |
Rick thinks the NCAA has a double standard?!?
https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/476459758661419008 6/10/2014 5:22:40 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Roy Williams has nothing to do with academics when it comes to the AFAM majors Mccants/May/Felton (and the other two of the starting 5 of the 2005 team). When it comes to guys who take real classes like Marcus Paige, Tyler Zeller, and Harrison Barnes, why, he knows their schedules, grades, and accomplishments etc. etc. It's really a matter of timing and circumstance for when Ol Roy knows what's going on academically. 6/11/2014 8:49:15 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I wish that article had hotlinked Hansjob's name with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFKuKSsWcBI 6/11/2014 10:17:11 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
McCants going back on ESPN today at 3pm... LIVE
Quote : | "@OTLonESPN: Today, 3PM ET, ESPN2: Former UNC guard Rashad McCants joins the program." |
Could get steamy in the Smith Center today6/11/2014 10:48:48 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Y'all tell me what he sayin! Prob that he made it all up 6/11/2014 3:08:43 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
haha he called out Doherty and Dean too
Jalen Rose called out Roy as well
McCants is basically championing for the student athletes who don't get an education or monetary compensation for what they do for the schools. But he has no qualms about pointing out how it's systematic and it happened at UNC. Basically said all the other players / former teammates are protecting UNC instead of telling the truth.
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 3:27 PM. Reason : .] 6/11/2014 3:26:27 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Derek Rowles @DerekRowles 1m McCants alleged that this 'system' at #UNC has been in place for decades.. including under Dean Smith" |
Also mentioned the other players should show their transcripts if they are so confident.6/11/2014 3:26:59 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19621 Posts user info edit post |
Joey Powell does not approve
Quote : | "And Rashad invoked Dean’s name. Yeah. He’s totally doing this on his own accord. *eyeroll* #UNC" |
6/11/2014 3:28:09 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "McAin'ts will burn in he77 for calling out DES!" |
6/11/2014 3:29:09 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
Oh they gone be real mad now. You must never take the LordDean's name in vain.
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .] 6/11/2014 3:31:06 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I didn't hate him enough, the minute Dean's name came across his ignorant lips I wanted to leap into the tv and throttle him. Don't even SPEAK that man's name you ****...." |
6/11/2014 3:36:57 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
haha...god these people are naive morons. 6/11/2014 3:39:22 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
WELP. Only one thing left to do now... Ask dean... 6/11/2014 3:41:44 PM |
APCrook All American 1451 Posts user info edit post |
this is all so great. roy is so fucking bad at dealing with the media to begin with and you know his blood starts boiling every time he has to answer questions about systemic cheating. i'd love for him to go colonel nathan jessup next time he's interviewed. "did you order mccants' grades swapped o--" "YOU"RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!"
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM. Reason : ] 6/11/2014 3:55:11 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for McCants, and you curse the university. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That college sports, while tragic, entertain people. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that bench, you need me on that bench. We use words like scholar, achievement, discipline. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent playing basketball. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the banners that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide them. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a basketball, or take a charge. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. " |
There ya go Roy.
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 4:03 PM. Reason : .]6/11/2014 4:01:45 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ben Swain @TheBenSwain 39s Funny thing is, everyone's right. Both Roy Williams and Rashad McCants are full of shit." |
6/11/2014 4:05:47 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My dad is calling ESPN... Don't mess with the Carolina basketball family" |
6/11/2014 4:06:10 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " FIRST OF ALL HE LITERALLY CALLED HIM BY FIRST NAME" |
On Rashad mentioning Dean6/11/2014 4:24:17 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Source? 6/11/2014 4:26:24 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ is that really a roy quote? 6/11/2014 4:27:19 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
^ 6/11/2014 4:27:51 PM |