dude only lost illinois by 4 points

what the actual fuck

11/6/2024 12:49:06 PM

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"Unlikable narrative doesn’t make sense. Trump lost the popular vote twice, and electoral college the 2nd time. He’s a rapist and a felon and committed what Ted Cruz called a terrorist attack Kamala had a weird laugh and a dry speaking style Americans just need a provocative candidate, doesn’t matter in what way it seems like. It bodes well for AOC to run tbh"

Might be on to something w/ the provocative part, but... I wasn't meaning "likability," even though that's a reasonable interpretation of what I said. I mean that folks just didn't like her as a candidate in general. She didn't sniff the primary stage in 2020 for a reason.

11/6/2024 12:51:57 PM

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"you dont think harris made mistakes regarding distancing herself from biden or hanging out with cheney etc? "

Hanging out with Cheney made me bristle personally, but it fits her messaging of trying to be a unifier.

^ my recollection of 2020 is she made a deal to drop out for a VP spot, so she could try again later and be favored. She wasn’t going to win then but she wasn’t doing that bad either.

[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2024 12:52:55 PM

11/6/2024 12:54:38 PM

STATEment.

11/6/2024 1:11:31 PM

The Democrats are going to lose sight of what lost them 2024 by calling Americans stupid. They won’t admit that nobody likes their platform, it’s just that Americans by and large just aren’t smart enough to understand their platform. It won’t change, it will be the same thing in 2028, and they might be left wondering the same thing all over again.

Also, Trump’s tariffs - they will most certainly be detrimental, but they sound good. They sound like something tangible to folks on factory floors. Kamal’s solution - 50k for somebody wanting to start up a business? That’s a pretty nebulous idea for a person who just wants a good job to put food on the table. Most people aren’t entrepeneur. Her solution to the affordable housing crisis was to give people an extra loan for a down payment. A down payment on what, a 500k 1300 sq ft home? That’s not going to go anywhere. And for first time home buyers thinking about jumping into the market, that’s still a pretty cloudy idea.

11/6/2024 1:11:55 PM

what a bunch of fucking babies

11/6/2024 1:21:54 PM

Quote :

"STATEment."

Enjoy what you have wrought, dude. As usual, thanks for dropping in to troll.

11/6/2024 1:29:15 PM

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"They won’t admit that nobody likes their platform, it’s just that Americans by and large just aren’t smart enough to understand their platform. It won’t change, it will be the same thing in 2028, and they might be left wondering the same thing all over again. "

That is practically the definition of stupid. Not understanding a relatively simple thing that will benefit you

Trump got that part right, he made his message so that a literal preschooler could understand it

But I don’t think we want to live in a society where both candidates talk to the public like preschoolers do we?

But regardless, I don’t think the actual message matters. It matters how you say it. Trump sold concentration camps by just saying it confidently and thats all it took. People probably don’t agree with this, but it makes him look like a change agent.

11/6/2024 1:31:45 PM

I agree with paragraph with a box around it

11/6/2024 1:35:27 PM

11/6/2024 1:37:00 PM

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"But I don’t think we want to live in a society where both candidates talk to the public like preschoolers do we?"

40% of the electorate doesn't have the IQ to operate a multifunction remote. It's got to be really simple.

11/6/2024 1:40:15 PM

https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1854189406946558447?s=46

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"Texas swung so far to the right that it might've picked up MAJORITIES of Hispanics and Asians. Race depolarization may actually happen."

All the gays and Asians I know that fled California in the same time frame I left were pretty based. Seems similar in Florida.

11/6/2024 1:49:16 PM

^^^^
What does more direct even look like?

Biden very frequently said he wants to increase police funding. Kamala is a literal cop, who ran on $15 min wage, giving people money for houses, Biden did student loan forgiveness. It doesn’t get more direct than that

Also i think it’s worth pointing out trump lost the popular vote in 2016, got more extreme in 2020, lost again, and got EVEN MORE extreme in 2024 to the point he ran on mass detention camps as a “bloody affair”

Look at the history of populism. It doesn’t work out. It’s a Pandora’s box. Trump crossing this fascist barrier has put us in a singularity basically where nothing matters. We need to get back to a pre-populist level of political rhetoric or things will spiral out of control. I can’t actually think of any countries now that went down the populism road and then came back without violence, but my knowledge of history isn’t that deep.

[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 1:52 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2024 1:52:21 PM

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"Also, Trump’s tariffs - they will most certainly be detrimental, but they sound good. They sound like something tangible to folks on factory floors. Kamal’s solution - 50k for somebody wanting to start up a business? That’s a pretty nebulous idea for a person who just wants a good job to put food on the table. Most people aren’t entrepeneur. Her solution to the affordable housing crisis was to give people an extra loan for a down payment. A down payment on what, a 500k 1300 sq ft home? That’s not going to go anywhere. And for first time home buyers thinking about jumping into the market, that’s still a pretty cloudy idea."

To be fair, she was dropped into this thing with basically 3 months to go. It's not particularly shocking that she didn't have much to go on. Biden hung his hat on "I'm not Trump, and Trump is bad," and it just wasn't a winning game, even if Joe weren't going senile.
At the same time, she could have gotten ramped up more quickly, and could have better prepared for some of the softball questions she flubbed (how would you be different than Joe?). She really was a lackluster candidate. I know moron keeps saying she was offered a deal to drop out, but I simply don't remember that. She just got zero traction. I could be wrong, but I don't recall this "deal" at all.

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"Biden very frequently said he wants to increase police funding. Kamala is a literal cop, who ran on $15 min wage, giving people money for houses, Biden did student loan forgiveness. It doesn’t get more direct than that Also i think it’s worth pointing out trump lost the popular vote in 2016, got more extreme in 2020, lost again, and got EVEN MORE extreme in 2024 to the point he ran on mass detention camps as a “bloody affair”"

Yep. This suggests a pretty fundamental problem with the Dems' candidates and organization. I wonder if folks saw them as extreme for some strange reason. Like things I've repeatedly mentioned that folks keep poo pooing as not possible. I suspect that ridiculous "sex changes for illegals" commercial was far more effective than Dems want to admit, and they might want to start asking why. This, of course, assumes that your latter paragraph doesn't become true. And I'm afraid it will. I don't see Trump leaving the Oval Office without bloodshed or his own death, if not both. This shit is plainly obvious, and something must be keeping that message from mattering...

11/6/2024 3:13:49 PM

I moved to San Francisco in 2011, then to Los Angeles in 2012 where I remained until 2020 when I left due to Covid to Ventura. Here are some things I saw while there that were frequent:

- Homeless guy jacking off to my mother in law
- Homeless guy flashing a knife at me when walking through a parking garage
- Open heroin use and needles on the street everywhere.
- Open air drug markets where you'd see people buying crack and heroin at 8am.
- Meth smoke on public transit
- Schizophrenic yelling "hey white bitch" to my wife and following her from work
- Bicycle mountain in direct view of a walking path I took to work. Hundreds of bikes in a pile. Had 2 bikes stolen while there.
- Inability to leave anything in your car for even five minutes or bike locked out of view. It would be stolen and window would be broken.
- Drug stores/post offices that look like they've never been cleaned because the homeless hang out there and do drugs.
- Catalytic converters stolen repeatedly (tbf they did bust up one of these rings while I was still there)
- starting by about 2019: Tent cities with open air drug use blocking walking paths. Frequently saw old ladies have to walk around them into busy roads. Fires started that did damage to the businesses they were near.
- Tent cities covering public parks with feces and needles everywhere.

While in LA I lived primarily in West LA/Santa Monica it went from panhandlers in the tourist areas to having to dodge needles in the nice residential areas and parks in the span of eight years.

Complaining about this to the police resulted in no changes. Some times, if you mentioned it at work, people treated it like the violent schizos were the victim. In addition, sometimes you'd get gaslit by people who didn't live there that crime wasn't really that bad.

By the time I moved in 2020 I would have supported putting drug users in work camps for whatever corporation could use them and Singapore style whippings for the petty crime. Most of the people I worked with that still live there are also fed up and afraid for their families. Most of them did not vote for Trump of course, but they voted for tougher measures and anyone perceived as not helping to address it out of office.



[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 3:25 PM. Reason : a]

11/6/2024 3:19:59 PM

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"I haven't been watching the DNC until tonight because 4 fucking days of any kind political pep rally are way too much. That said, I'm not sure infectious joy/hope and top notch production quality at the convention are really going to be enough to have Kamala truly ascend and make it an early call on Election Day, let alone eek out a 270 EC win. I am obviously voting for her, but I do wonder how she can ever shake the fact that so many people are absolutely pissed about the past 4 years. I don't see how those who aren't doing well in life can ignore the fact she's been the #2 person in power while fast food has become a luxury splurge for a good chunk of the middle class. These "border czar" commercials trashing her for a (mostly imaginary) border crisis really hammer the question I have in my mind: why would I want to vote for a fairly phony, stereotypical politician that propped up Biden like the guys from Weekend At Bernies? These are the folks I am worried about. They're the same type of "burn it down" people that voted to fuck HRC and the rest of us over I have never been a fan of Biden, and while I know he got dealt the shittiest hand possible, I'm also college educated and doing a lot better than before either Trump or Biden took office. So many things have to go right for her to win (youth vote, black vote, Latino vote, suburban women vote, etc) that I really hope all this peace/joy/love enthusiasm isn't going to lead to an even more disappointing, swift kick to the nuts."

Called it again!

11/6/2024 4:37:16 PM

Saying you really hope something doesn't happen isn't exactly "calling it".

[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 5:07 PM. Reason : not that it matters]

11/6/2024 5:06:17 PM

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""

Next time post the graph with the Y-axis scale beginning at 65 instead of 50 for even more dramatic evidence of fraud!

11/6/2024 6:20:17 PM

So just like 2016, I blame minority voters for Trumps win

11/6/2024 7:06:15 PM

Feels like TSB has one too many people recently, but maybe that one is me.

11/6/2024 7:39:38 PM

^It isn't you.

11/6/2024 8:00:31 PM

Glad to see you too.

I actually missed you guys so much I took the day off today. We got election day off, but I thought it was so special I took an extra day.


[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 8:11 PM. Reason : A]

11/6/2024 8:02:33 PM

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" After last night, it became clear it was a mistake to dismiss Trump’s true political strength. He will win the 2024 election with at least 51% of the popular vote. His win will not be the result of a constitutional quirk. It was not even the result of a bad campaign by Kamala Harris. His victory was so broad based I’m not sure any Democrat could have beaten him last night. There’s a brutal clarity in this result. The majority of Americans are not concerned with Trump’s blatant racism or sexism. They are not concerned with his vows of retribution on his political enemies. They are not concerned with warnings of “fascism” by his former top aides. They are not concerned with his extensive criminal and fraudulent behavior. If there’s a takeaway from this election, it’s that this is who we are. Not all of us, to be sure. But it makes clear what the rest of us are up against. — https://politicalwire.com/2024/11/06/the-election-provided-some-clarity/ "

And this sums up a lot of how I feel

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"For me, belief in the merits of democracy is quasi-religious. It’s more than a philosophy. It’s a fundamental belief. I have faith in democracy, and part of that is accepting the results of any fair and free election as the will of the electorate — similar, I think, to how actually religious people have faith that unspeakable tragedies can somehow be the will of a just and righteous deity. Through that prism, and with the genuine shock of 2016 giving me a brace, I can accept this. But because of that prism, I will never forgive or forget Trump’s shameful desecration of our democratic ideals in 2020. His winning in 2016 and again now are awful events. But his attempt to overturn the 2020 election — ham-fisted, idiotic, and failed though it thankfully was — was and will always be worse."

[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 11:11 PM. Reason : Format]

11/6/2024 11:09:56 PM

^
Same with the latter

Lots of countries are stable and aren’t democracies. But democracy when adhered to as a principle and aggressively maintained, results in a society with happier people, doing their best work. Lots of other positive benefits

Trump and his ilk don’t appreciate it. They don’t respect the fact that the best parts of our society and the progress away from slavery and apartheid took hundreds of years of people believing in this idea. Future broad based progress can’t happen without it.

[Edited on November 6, 2024 at 11:54 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2024 11:54:01 PM

My reaction, at least initially, has been a turn towards nihilism. I feel like I have spent my entire adult life doing my best for America, but…I can’t want it more than the rest of you (the collective masses). I still have an ideology—it’s just that it no longer feels guiding. Trump wants to stay in power past 2028? Fuck it, whatever. MAGAs wanna make death threats against legislators to get their way? Fuck it, whatever. Trump wants to pardon the Jan 6th “hostages”, circumvent the confirmation process with the whole Cabinet being “acting”, etc? Fuck it, whatever. Enact a bunch of idiotic legislation targeting transgender people over silly stuff like which room they piss in? Fuck it, whatever, I’m not trans. Want to completely fuck away America’s place in the world, that I went to two different wars for? Fuck it, whatever. Want to engage in corrupt to high heaven quid pro quo with Elon Musk after he helped so generously in the campaign? Fuck it, whatever, sounds good—I have a good bit of TSLA stock.

Don’t tax me. Don’t fuck up the economy with tariffs, etc, or your deep and overarching ineptitude and simpleminded myopia. A lot of his issues are terrible for America, but don’t impact me all that much directly. If things get set into motion that eventually make things too bad, then I’ll just move to some ski village in the Alps or some tropical island, as long as he doesn’t fuck up my financial prospects.

If the masses have decided—twice—that we don’t care about the rule of law, or democracy, or any semblance of integrity, or even minimal competence, or expertise, or knowledge, or judgment,never mind simple decency…if we have decided to eschew the things that have made America what it has been, and to not only cease striving to be, but to actively avoid being the shining city on the hill, then I’m inclined to basically view it as a vehicle by which to advance my own personal interests, and no bigger picture really matters as any sort of political priority.

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ]

11/7/2024 12:02:20 AM

^ agree with a lot of that too. At this point if trump is successful I’m successful. If he fucks over a ton of folks I’m still better off than nearly all.

If millions of folks want to vote against their own interests so be it.

11/7/2024 12:20:35 AM

So… who could have beat trump if we could go back to January

Kamala was on the low end of the poll error margin, and Biden was even lower than her. Not unrecoverable though.

Michelle Obama never made sense to me but lots of people seem to like her and Shes a great speaker

I honestly think AOC could have won since Shes witty and a great speech giver, and speak passionately and is photogenic.

I think if Kamala had more time too she could have done a lot better. They should have leaned into her being a nerd.

11/7/2024 1:26:40 AM

a non-senile Biden

run another old-ish white guy who is good at making speeches. that's really all there is to it.

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 1:43 AM. Reason : .]

11/7/2024 1:43:00 AM

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"It was not even the result of a bad campaign by Kamala Harris. His victory was so broad based I’m not sure any Democrat could have beaten him last night."

Is this true though? I know final vote tallies will increase as they continue counting. But it looks like a whole lotta people that voted for Biden chose to stay home and not vote for anybody.

11/7/2024 6:17:45 AM

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"I’m inclined to basically view it as a vehicle by which to advance my own personal interests"

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"agree with a lot of that too. At this point if trump is successful I’m successful. If he fucks over a ton of folks I’m still better off than nearly all."

Good to see you skipping the "Good German" phase to go straight into "profiteer." I'm sure your kids will be proud.

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"So… who could have beat trump if we could go back to January"

Maybe nobody. It's clear that a lot of people came out, cast a vote for Trump, then turned in an otherwise blank ballot - that's part of how NC ended up with a slate of Democrats running the executive branch while going strongly for Trump nationally. I don't really know how you accomplish the same thing on the Democratic side.

Maybe an all white guy ticket. Certainly there's some percentage of Trump voters who just didn't want a woman, or a person of color. I don't know that it'd be enough to tip the scales, or even if it would be enough to offset the people who were motivated to vote for her because she was a woman of color.

Aside from Trump's unique ability to bring out single-candidate voters, I suspect the biggest albatross around the Democrats' necks was inflation, and I don't know what candidate could have shed that. You'd need somebody who was pretty critical of the Biden administration, and it's unclear to me how you even get that candidate without Biden dropping out early and going to open primaries.

11/7/2024 8:26:10 AM

Kamala just didn’t excite voters. Wasn’t she one of the first candidates to drop in the Democratic primaries?

11/7/2024 8:57:54 AM

Yeah she withdrew pretty early. Maybe before the primaries even started, after some of the early debates.

People will say she was too liberal or not liberal enough. But I think the easiest answer is, people didn’t believe the economy was good and they placed a lot of blame on the current administration. And she’s part of that administration. Maybe that’s a messaging issue that a different candidate could’ve overcome, I dunno. I feel like the Dems were fucked from the beginning with Biden trying to run and then dropping out. It was all kinda messy and probably led to a lack of enthusiasm from potential Dem voters (plenty of whom it appears chose to stay home).

11/7/2024 9:19:46 AM

these people want a blank check to murder their neighbors based entirely on their own internalized, systematic fear

that's the end goal... it's the reason why violence is so fetishized by them

you better believe his inauguration is going to be a gigantic tailgate this time

they're free to come out an be their true selves now in a way they couldn't in the first term

because this plan of violence is about to be codified in a very upfront and fresh way

11/7/2024 10:25:30 AM

my gameplan from page 12 still applies

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"Honestly I'm afraid I think the best advice is to ignore the noise. Focus on what matters in your day to day personal and family life, and hope to survive the next few years and see where we end up. Speak up as your conscience dictates as needed, try not to be overcome by propaganda and brainrot, and resist letting the world drive you mad. We're gonna need our brains in tiptop shape and the constant agitation of world affairs and culture war battles doesn't seem to be doing us much good. [Edited on June 19, 2024 at 11:02 PM. Reason : see some of you on the other side]"

11/7/2024 10:42:20 AM

^yep, can't let it bring me down. just gotta keep living.. Hope that it doesn't affect me or mine too much (selfish... but what else can I do right now?), and hope it doesn't get as bad as it seems it might. And be kind, we're all in this together (although I really, really dislike some people right now)

11/7/2024 10:54:20 AM

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"So… who could have beat trump if we could go back to January"

You just don't get it. Trump is as much of a referendum on the Democrats as he is on Biden/Harris specifically. While it certainly would have helped if Dems had kicked Biden to the curb in June of 2023 and had an actual primary, and it would have helped if they could articulate the reasons for inflation and why tariffs are bad idea if you want to avoid that, the issue runs deeper than who is heading the ticket. Trump has said and done things that should automatically disqualify him to 75% of the electorate. And it's a tight race. What does it say about Democrats that even those things aren't enough to remove him from consideration? It says that people think, as crazy as Trump and his ilk are, the Dems are just as crazy, if not worse.

Democrats have been so caught up in Trump Derangement syndrome over the past 10 years, that they took the gambit that their own candidates could be just as crazy and folks would still choose Dem on the ballot because Trump was so bad. It failed. It has failed for 3 election cycles now. Democrats need to be sane. They need to call out their own people and their proxies in academia and elsewhere when they jump the fucking shark.

It took them days to openly condemn October 7th. There's a god damned Hamas wing of the party, and they can't call it out. Raping women and burning children alive couldn't get immediate condemnation. They couldn't openly and unequivocally censure Omar and Tlaib for fucking celebrating it! They couldn't couldn't call for Hamas supporters to stop blocking access to Jewish students on campus. They couldn't call campus shutdowns and building takeovers unacceptable. This is fucking insanity, and the Dems couldn't call it out.

They are completely out of touch on trans issues. They've managed to take a condition that is known to affect < 1% of the population and convince 1 out of 5 kids in schools that they have it. They've spent years telling us how all men are rapists, rape culture is super pervasive on college campuses, all men are scum. But then they shamed Riley Gaines for saying she was forced to look at a set of cock and balls every god damned day in the fucking women's locker room. They've practically erased any traditional notion of what a woman is, to the point that we have Orwellian terms such as "people who menstruate" and are forced to swallow the notion that men can be pregnant. They want to hide it from parents when their children want to set off down a path of cutting of their fucking genitalia. No part of that is sane or reasonable whatsoever.

Then they've taken the tact that the entire country is irredeemably racist. Everything about the country is horrible, we're all racist, George Washington raped 5 black women a day on his way to get his morning coffee because Nicole Hannah-Jones said so. We need to stop funding police departments because all they do is kill black people all day. There's never been anything good, ever, about any founding father or past civic leader, and they should all be forgotten and purged from any historical record or building or statue or whatever. Merely having white skin makes you a racist, and you should practically self-flagellate daily for things done by ancestors you never knew. Democrats can't seem to call out unruly mobs of students who shout down any non-progressive speaker on campus, no matter how anodyne or distinguished. Words are violence and we all need to self-censor to avoid even remotely hurting the feelings of the most easily and performatively offended among us? I'm just shocked that all of this might not fly well with people, and that they might expect Democrats to call these things out as insane.

Do we even need to get into how Democrats are approaching crime? Whole stores being systematically looted in California because you can't prosecute someone for taking less than $1000 (or whatever it is)? Folks having to step over needles and feces in the streets? Completely dropping cash bail for people who absolutely should have it? Refusing to work with federal authorities when a suspected illegal immigrant is arrested for a violent crime? And all of this is against the backdrop of actually lower crime rates, so how the hell are you boning this up?

Until Democrats address these things, they are going to keep losing to fascists. Trump has the spectre of fascism, but they haven't really seen it. They've seen people burning down cities and Dems dismissing it, though. They've seen Dems ignoring kids taking over entire buildings at colleges. Trump's negatives are a possibility; yours are already a god damned reality. I know the retort is "why do the GOP get a pass on their crazy," and I don't think they do. It's just that the one thing that should be a distinct advantage to Democrats is something they can't capitalize on. Crazy versus sane is a dramatically different race than crazy versus crazy.

All you need to do is Not. Be. Crazy. That's it. You wipe the god damned floor with Trump and his fools if you do that. But since Democrats haven't done that for the past 8 or more years, you've got a lot to do to overcome that. Kamala had her faults, but at this point I'm not sure any Democrat is going to overcome the hurdles that party has put in front of them nationally. Fix your crazy.

11/7/2024 12:46:08 PM

you’ve posted a Fox News viewers fever dream of the Democratic Party again

11/7/2024 1:19:17 PM

thegoodlife3. he's right. wake up.

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 1:28 PM. Reason : who is more in denial? elderly qanon fox news viewers or millennial hipster progressives]

11/7/2024 1:27:31 PM

Ok sure. Keep telling yourself that. And keep losing elections that the country can’t afford for you to lose.

You might call that a Fox News fever dream, but it’s how a large majority of America sees the current Democratic Party.

I don’t even watch/listen/read conservative media (outside of checking in like I do with every other news site). I work a white collar job on a team of folks from all over the country. There’s one, maybe two Democrats on the team. The rest are Republicans who are tired of the current status of both parties, but sure as hell see the Democrats as the description above paints them. Sure, that’s just anecdotal, but extrapolate that out…

11/7/2024 1:28:02 PM

^^^^ looks like this too https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1854334397157384421

What was your top issue that converted you to orange man bad?


[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 1:30 PM. Reason : A]

11/7/2024 1:28:46 PM

i was wondering when tgl3 would pop up and remind us all that he doesnt really care if democrats lose as long as they are right.

11/7/2024 1:39:19 PM

There does seem to be alot in there of how conservatives view the democrasts.

Just one example:

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"They've managed to take a condition [trans] that is known to affect < 1% of the population and convince 1 out of 5 kids in schools that they have it. "

Who has? How are they doing this? Why are they doing it? Where does the "1 in 5" come from?

I have some family members that believe public school systems are indoctrinating kids to turn trans... but i know they got this from Fox and from their facebook algorithms of Matt Walsh and Dan Bongino. I'm pretty certain the vast, vast, vast majority of schools aren't "convincing" kids to turns trans. Definitely not 1 in 5.

11/7/2024 1:39:38 PM

a few more postmortem nuggets

https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=654224

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"she's gonna have to address the narrative that she was part of (even if only indirectly by association) the effort to cover up Biden's age-related issues and deprive Democrats of having a legitimate primary process. if she does the typical politician thing and just deflect, she'll lose. If she faces it head on, it'll score her some points."

she did the typical politician thing.

https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=654224&page=2#16675439

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"let's look at the record of Dem attempts to run the "anointed" or "next in line" candidate for President ..... The lesson is, competitive primaries > coronations. "

will be interesting to see which candidates and messages emerge in 2028.

11/7/2024 1:41:10 PM

i think what he means is 1 in 5 people who identify as trans are now ages 13-17.

11/7/2024 1:41:18 PM

https://youtu.be/DWbxIFC0Q2o?t=730

Not necessarily 1 in 5, but 4400% increase in rates among teen girls. Anecdotally 15% to 30% of girls in her parent peer group. Teen girls are now the leading demographic in gender dysphoria.

"The same high anxiety depressive girls who are cutting is the one that falls into the gender dysphoria group and self-diagnoses to get puberty blockers"

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 2:03 PM. Reason : a]

11/7/2024 2:02:52 PM

I didn't watch that, but where did the 4400% and 15% to 30% come from?

And how are the democrats "convincing" them this? Are they literally indoctrinating them to convince them to become trans? Or have they just been vocal in their acceptance of LGBTQ kids?

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 2:19 PM. Reason : ]

11/7/2024 2:19:34 PM

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"Who has? How are they doing this? Why are they doing it? Where does the "1 in 5" come from?"

Forget where I saw that, but it doesn't seem far off from my experience. In just my immediate social circle, 2 families have a combined 7 teen girls, and 4 of them are gender dysphoric. This is not normal and well beyond any statistically likely probability. But any attempt to question is bigotted and transphobic in progressive circles. Like I said: fucking crazy. Keep your head in the sand, but the rest of the country is saying what the hell is going on.

^ JK Rowling's widely-attacked letter from June 2020 suggested the 4400% rise in the UK. I'd expect she got her numbers from a reputable source, even if she has kinda jumped the shark as of late. And, I'd say that her initial experience kinda backs up what I've been saying. The attacks she endured for asking very reasonable questions were quite telling. Again, she's jumped the shark recently, but her 2020 letter was not off base

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ]

11/7/2024 2:23:22 PM

^ Same with friends living in Santa Monica. First I've heard numbers that high outside California.

The theory is it's the same way cutting and bulimia spreads. "Social Contagion" that causes them to do things they think will lead to social acceptance.


Lady in the video's book:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/168451228X?tag=bravesoftwa04-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&language=en_US

[Edited on November 7, 2024 at 2:28 PM. Reason : a]

11/7/2024 2:26:48 PM

Btw, the other 3 girls? 2 claim to be lesbians and the other is pansexual.

11/7/2024 2:40:25 PM