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" lol you are the village idiot of tech talk."

there you go, projecting again.


and on to your second 'point'. So, you're telling us that MS didn't have any vested interest in HD-DVD?? Ever heard of HDi??? Ever wondered why all HD-DVDs use VC1 encoding? You really have no idea what you're talking about.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 11:09 AM. Reason : d]

1/9/2008 11:07:19 AM

we should only allow you to post in the PS3 thread. At least you aren't alone in your retardedness over there.

1/9/2008 11:09:42 AM

user block firefox plugin for FanatiK is working great!

1/9/2008 11:10:02 AM

hahaha

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"and on to your second 'point'. So, you're telling us that MS didn't have any vested interest in HD-DVD?? Ever heard of HDi??? Ever wondered why all HD-DVDs use VC1 encoding? You really have no idea what you're talking about."

Dude, seriously...this has been covered a million times already. Give it up already

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 11:10:23 AM

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"If you took your head out of Sony's ass long enough you would know that Digital Downloads has always been MS's push."

really?

1/9/2008 11:12:27 AM

Firefox FTW.

1/9/2008 11:13:10 AM

You'd have to be borderline drooling to think disc media has a prayer against downloadable content.

1/9/2008 11:39:46 AM

depends on what you mean by "has a prayer". If you mean discs will make more money overall in the next 20+ years then I'd say you're right, they don't have a chance. But I really don't see downloads ever completely taking over physical media just because of people like me that have 400+ DVD collections. I just think there are too many people that want the actual discs to go along with their movies. Sure it's old fashioned, but I still think there's always gonna be a market for non-downloadable movies. At least for the next 20 years or so.

1/9/2008 11:49:03 AM

Comcast at least thinks it's "part" of the future.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/comcast-ces-takes-bold-steps/story.aspx?guid=%7B3EBCA687-8677-4B4A-A40D-F6CFCAB2CB20%7D&dist=hplatest

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" Comcast takes bold steps in HD, VOD expansion By David B. Wilkerson, MarketWatch Last update: 4:35 p.m. EST Jan. 8, 2008 CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Comcast Corp. on Tuesday unveiled an aggressive plan to expand its high-definition and video-on-demand titles in an effort to remind investors that growth potential remains despite signs to the contrary in recent quarters. Comcast , the largest U.S. cable-television operator, announced the initiative, dubbed "Project Infinity," during the annual International Computer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Comcast has reported slowing growth in customers generating revenue in recent quarters, which has concerned some analysts and investors who worry that increased competition from satellite providers and phone companies has become an issue, along with the effects of a sluggish economy. "There's more growth to be had in broadband video, in advertising revenue, and VOD as over time it replaces [DVD] rental activity at stores like Blockbuster," said Craig Moffett, cable and telecom analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, in an interview. "And this [announcement] is a reminder that Comcast intends to stick to its knitting in growing those areas." Telecom providers such as Verizon Communications had competed with cable for broadband and phone customers for several years, but they have now moved into the realm of video services. Last month, co-Chief Financial Officer Michael Angelakis told investors that Comcast remains "well positioned" to do battle with those companies, but he noted that the company must do a better job of HD promotion. To some degree, Comcast has lost ground in this area to satellite, Angelakis said. On Tuesday, Chairman Brian Roberts said that Comcast plans to offer more than 1,000 HD movies and TV shows monthly by the end of 2008, along with making more television networks available in the format "as they debut." Comcast systems now offer about 1,300 on-demand movie titles. Starting in 2009, the company plans to make available more than 6,000 movies per month, half of which will be in HD. Video-on-demand is one of the cornerstones of Comcast's strategy -- users are able to select movies or TV shows, then pause, fast-forward or rewind them as they desire -- since satellite providers are unable to provide such a service due to technical limitations. Under the Project Infinity banner, Comcast plans to create a system of library servers that will allow it to provide VOD content to customers from several locations across the U.S., thereby enabling it to offer "exponentially" more programming for the service. The company also plans to extend its online brand. Launched on Tuesday, its Fancast.com portal will allow consumers to find, manage and watch TV shows and movies on a variety of platforms -- over the Web, television, on DVDs or in movie theaters. More than 90,000 videos are also available at Comcast.com. Comcast has been busy in Las Vegas. The company said Monday at CES that it and Panasonic have collaborated to produce a new portable digital video recorder that will allow users to record television programs and watch them anywhere on a screen measuring 8 1/2 inches. "

1/9/2008 11:50:24 AM

Every company that has anything to do with networking knows VOD is going to be a big value point in the future.

Thats what makes these arguments fun.

1/9/2008 11:51:58 AM

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"So, you're telling us that MS didn't have any vested interest in HD-DVD?? Ever heard of HDi??? Ever wondered why all HD-DVDs use VC1 encoding? You really have no idea what you're talking about."

Blu-ray uses VC-1 too. In fact:

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"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VC-1 : Both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc have adopted VC-1 as a mandatory video standard, meaning their video playback devices will be capable of decoding and playing video-content compressed using VC-1."

Basically, yet again FanatiK, you prove to be an absolute retard.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 11:55 AM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 11:54:59 AM

i think they're different aspects of video as with audio

some people will always swear by hard media and not want to chance things to network speed/traffic quality of a download over the quality of the original media.

for owning movies, i think hard media will nearly always be on top, for renting movies, i'd say that on-demand video will by far be the winner

but with audio people are satisfied with downloads because a lossless format can be had at a reasonable size, as storage becomes cheaper and larger sizes along with more fiber connections in homes, this 'may' be a future of HD, but it'll surely take awhile.

1/9/2008 11:55:42 AM

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"depends on what you mean by "has a prayer". If you mean discs will make more money overall in the next 20+ years then I'd say you're right, they don't have a chance. But I really don't see downloads ever completely taking over physical media just because of people like me that have 400+ DVD collections. I just think there are too many people that want the actual discs to go along with their movies. Sure it's old fashioned, but I still think there's always gonna be a market for non-downloadable movies. At least for the next 20 years or so."

As one of these 'people' who like to have physical collections of movies. I would much rather have a digital collection that I can access on the fly through my PS3/Xbox360 then having shelves and shelves of DVD's that are just taking up space in my house. I'm all for the switch over. It can even have fancy 'cover art' so you can have little icons to look at like iTunes album art.

1/9/2008 11:58:34 AM

It's just not the same to me. If I'm gonna download a movie, I'm sure as hell not gonna pay for it.

1/9/2008 12:00:45 PM

^^^OK, so I guess Golovko was right. Microsoft had no stake in HD-DVD whatsoever. My bad.

1/9/2008 12:00:54 PM

Well

They chose not to stall the XBox360 for HD DVD.

A gambit that has them assraping the PS3 by every gaming metric except hardware.

1/9/2008 12:01:59 PM

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"They chose not to stall the XBox360 for HD DVD proper testing/design"

They rushed to be first to market, I think that's pretty obvious.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 12:04 PM. Reason : were]

1/9/2008 12:04:06 PM

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"A gambit that has them assraping the PS3 by every gaming metric except hardware."

1/9/2008 12:04:36 PM

^^haha...you are such an idiot. it's actually pretty funny.

ps3 will never touch xbox 360 combined with xbox live...it just won't happen. they'll have a few decent games and a decent online interface, but by the time they get close to the same library and gaming community, it will be time for the next-gen systems to roll out.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason : /]

1/9/2008 12:04:48 PM

aren't you supposed to be blocking me anyway? Please, go on.

1/9/2008 12:06:00 PM

i'm back blocking you now...i just needed a good laugh

1/9/2008 12:08:02 PM

just couldn't stay away, huh? That's cute AND pathetic.

1/9/2008 12:10:50 PM

what? i can't read what you're saying with this plugin

1/9/2008 12:15:35 PM

twat? i cunt hear you. I have an ear infucktion

1/9/2008 12:17:09 PM

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"ps3 will never touch xbox 360 combined with xbox live."

Just playing devils advocate here (and trying to get this thread back to something resembling the original topic) but never say never. Now that blu-ray has "won" I can surely see myself buying a PS3 within the next few months. That's not something I would have imagined a month ago. It's almost like Sony used the PS3 to sell blu-ray, and now they'll use blu-ray to sell the PS3. At least that's how I feel about it. I'll probably still do most of my gaming on the 360 however, but I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of this generation cycle the PS3 sells more units than the 360.

1/9/2008 12:20:38 PM

which is why IT WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE BY SONY. I know it upsets a lot of you to have to admit that, but it's the truth.

1/9/2008 12:22:05 PM

We get it. you like sony. can we please move on?

1/9/2008 12:23:10 PM

hindsight is 20/20

foresight isn't always that clear

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 12:24:12 PM

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"We get it. you like sony. can we please move on?"

sorry, I didn't realize we were getting something accomplished in this thread.

1/9/2008 12:29:41 PM

well that's pretty obvious.

1/9/2008 12:34:06 PM

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"It's almost like Sony used the PS3 to sell blu-ray, and now they'll use blu-ray to sell the PS3. At least that's how I feel about it. I'll probably still do most of my gaming on the 360 however, but I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of this generation cycle the PS3 sells more units than the 360."

Maybe Microsoft can use the 360 to sell Vista

1/9/2008 12:34:37 PM

lol vista, LAWL

1/9/2008 12:44:05 PM

Vista's the shit, y'all.

1/9/2008 12:47:19 PM

http://www.betanews.com/article/Warner_Bros_says_it_fulfilled_obligations_to_Toshiba_HD_DVD/1199759406


Not good for HD-DVD

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM. Reason : Warner no longer backing HD-DVD]

1/9/2008 12:51:19 PM

*ducks*

1/9/2008 12:53:01 PM

http://www.betanews.com/roundup/HD_DVD_gets_kicked_in_the_teeth/1199771771


lol this collection of articles is called "HD-DVD Gets Kicked in the Teeth"

1/9/2008 1:02:25 PM

Seriously, if you don't stop posting old news in here and pretending it's new, people will start to throw stuff at you.

1/9/2008 1:09:05 PM

how did I end up back on page 32? or am i missing something here?

Quote :

"which is why IT WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE BY SONY. I know it upsets a lot of you to have to admit that, but it's the truth"

hahahahahahahahahahaha

1/9/2008 1:14:37 PM

its fucking two days old!!!

LICK MY BALLS!

1/9/2008 1:15:34 PM

i love the titles, "Warner: Rising gas prices drove its Blu-ray decision"

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"Kevin Tsujihara, President, Warner Bros. Entertainment Group: We've typically been recession proof. But the thing that we saw in the fourth quarter...was gas prices beginning to affect sales. And since we're considered an impulse purchase, it's beginning to impact us.""

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:18 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 1:15:49 PM

two days old on the internet is a huge deal. Especially in a thread thats been spot on with news related to HD DVD/Blu Ray

1/9/2008 1:16:01 PM

you're still mad about HD-DVD getting donkey punched, aren't you?

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:58 PM. Reason : ...]

1/9/2008 1:52:48 PM

Sony can sell a million more PS3's because of this.

...and still sell less PS3's then number of Halo3 discs sold worldwide.

1/9/2008 2:25:29 PM

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"you're still mad about HD-DVD getting donkey punched, aren't you?"

no? I have both blu ray and HD DVD and after I Get my 5 free discs i'll have just as many blu ray movies as HD DVD movies. How did I get donkey punched again?

My HD DVD player was a hell of a lot cheaper than my blu ray player. So i'd be pissed if blu ray tanked.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 2:52:30 PM

Quote :

" My HD DVD player was a hell of a lot cheaper than my blu ray player. So i'd be pissed if blu ray tanked. "

Thats actually a pretty good statement.

1/9/2008 2:55:27 PM

1/9/2008 3:18:54 PM

New book in the works. "All quiet on the Hi-Def front"

1/9/2008 3:20:59 PM

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"Sony can sell a million more PS3's because of this. ...and still sell less PS3's then number of Halo3 discs sold worldwide."

QFT, lol

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 3:30:24 PM

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"HBO Confirms Switch to Blu-ray Exclusivity Distributed under the Warner umbrella along with New Line Home Entertainment and BBC Home Video, HBO had been format-neutral, releasing titles in both Blu-ray and HD DVD. Following New Line's move to Blu-ray, HBO now becomes the third Warner company to abandon HD DVD, leaving only the BBC (which Warner distributes domestically) to declare its future format intentions."

1/9/2008 5:51:58 PM

i can't wait in a few years when the profile 2.0 movies come out.. 75% of the HDM consumers will start bitching about having to spend another $texas on a new player that supports 2.0 movies.

HD DVD was technically superior. the 3X HD DVD brought the capacity up to 45GB, neutralizing BRD only advantage. Their standard is set, support interactive features, and web content, etc. The lasers are cheaper to make b/c they don't require such a high quality lens that blu-ray needs. Blu-ray disc production has a much lower yield right now. HD DVDs can be stamped on standard dvd production machines. Why companies and studios are willing to spend more money to get a working disc on the shelf is beyond me..

The only reason HD DVD lost is b/c of the content and the fact that you can't do anything worthy on the PS3 except watch Bluray movies. Not enough of the major studios were releasing on HDDVD thus why more BRD movies were sold. Look at the HDDVD exclusive movies and how well they sold.

1/9/2008 7:33:43 PM