TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
spot on 6/18/2010 12:00:23 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm looking forward to see how rally downplays Kobe's 15 rebounds" |
I would assume rally would be too busy talking about kobe's 25% shooting, 24 shots and two assists6/18/2010 12:01:37 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
I dont agree with Rally on everything, and I hate the Lakers and Kobe, but it was obvious that Kobe wanted to be the hero in this game and was more concerned about that then anything else until the very end.
It's also funny how he tries to do everything exactly like MJ does...I mean, every fucking thing.
The whole jump on the press row, extend the arms and start dancing while holding up the 5 fingers....
I know that sounds vague, but it was IDENTICAL. 6/18/2010 12:02:02 AM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well my work here is done, would love to see the kobe jock riders excuse him for almost blowing the championship because he cares more about mvp accolades than winning" |
I don't think the Kobe jock riders will excuse him for his play. His shooting was atrocious.
That said, he wouldn't have single handedly blew the championship if the Lakers had lost. It would have been a collective team effort. The Lakers' shooting % as a team is a testament to that.
I'd trust him to make free throws at the end of the game before I would defer to LeBron to do the same thing.6/18/2010 12:02:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
but rebounds are the most important stat, according to him
scoring is overvalued
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ^^^] 6/18/2010 12:02:11 AM |
lion4russell All American 1588 Posts user info edit post |
adam morrison: TWO TIME NBA CHAMPION 6/18/2010 12:02:40 AM |
nasty_b All American 1183 Posts user info edit post |
"Ok, who wants a Celtics shirt?"
6/18/2010 12:03:13 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
6/18/2010 12:03:54 AM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did i see roger murdock out there on the court?" |
No, that was Kareem. I've seen them play. My dad's got season tickets. I think he's the greatest, but my dad says he doesn't work hard enough on defense.6/18/2010 12:04:03 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Son, I am disappoint.
6/18/2010 12:06:09 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Jerry Buss is going to die within 3 days. 6/18/2010 12:06:22 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
ahahahha, did you see Kobe when Stuart Scott said the greatest Laker ever, Magic Johnson?
Kobe looked at him and laughed.
I hate that arrogant fucker. 6/18/2010 12:06:24 AM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure I hate anyone else more than phillip 6/18/2010 12:07:41 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
http://twitter.com/Follow24Hodge/status/16443418387
LOL 6/18/2010 12:09:02 AM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
gotta give phil jackson some credit. he's now a two time nba championship coach.
goddamnit i hate that guy 6/18/2010 12:09:16 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "gotta give phil jackson some credit. he's now a two time nba championship coach." |
In 1992, that's correct.
He's now an 11 time NBA Championship Coach.6/18/2010 12:14:14 AM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't think i'd have to spell it out, but here you go: he's only earned these last two. 6/18/2010 12:17:17 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
well my last post of the nba season:
1. ray allen didn't step up, that was disapointing, a hall of famer should have found a way to get his shot working better in the finals
2. rondo still needs to work on his jump shot a little more, there were a lot of bad possessions because people were playing way off him and he should have just drilled a shot but he's one of my favorite players in the league
3. you can't ask more than that as a fan, both teams gave everything they had, the lakers just graded out a little better
4. I'm really not that bothered by this because of that kobe performance is going to make the jordan stuff a lot more questionable
5. lebron better sign with a team with another superstar now, the supporting cast on the cavs isn't going to cut it, there needs to be a younger talented team to take it to the lakers next yr, not an aging one with questionable offense 6/18/2010 12:17:31 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i didn't think i'd have to spell it out, but here you go: he's only earned these last two." |
hahaha. yeah I can't believe someone was stupid enough to call you out on that6/18/2010 12:23:15 AM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
maybe he shouldn't have been called out. But it's still a stupid fucking comment.
11 rings. I fucking hate PJ, but you're an idiot if you don't give him credit 6/18/2010 12:29:42 AM |
eli All American 1581 Posts user info edit post |
Remove from "my topics" 6/18/2010 12:32:55 AM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "11 rings. I fucking hate PJ, but you're an idiot if you don't give him credit" |
Well he coached a great game. Give him some fucking credit, I mean, for real.6/18/2010 12:46:29 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
I've never really liked Kobe, but I don't see how anyone would ever like being his team mate. The guy couldn't hit hardly anything and still put up shot after shot. I think if the Celtics had had just a little bit more down the stretch then Kobe trying to shoulder the entire load would've been the bigger story.
I haven't watched much NBA ever, and don't really know how long Pierce has been in the league, but the rest of the Celtics looked old. Unless Rondo got in transition their offense was terrible. Also how can you say Jackson isn't truly an 11 time champion? I know he's had stacked teams, but 11 times is absolutely absurd.
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 1:10 AM. Reason : tbdv] 6/18/2010 1:09:40 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty crazy to think the Celtics started 5 hall of famers tonight
The lakers stayed in the game despite kobe but kobe came through with rebounds defense and offense at teh end. 6/18/2010 1:34:10 AM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah baby!!!!! Wooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo Lakers baby!!!!!!!!!
The ONLY bad thing about this is that that child molester Morrison gets a ring....other than that...
LA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6/18/2010 1:37:25 AM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
Bring up the guy that looks poor but not the guy that has charges in different states for being an adulterer and borderline rapist. 6/18/2010 1:41:01 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pretty crazy to think the Celtics started 5 hall of famers tonight" |
lolololol at 5 hall of famers6/18/2010 1:42:06 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
which one won't make the hall of fame? 6/18/2010 1:44:10 AM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
Now.....let's see who's rioting here.... 6/18/2010 1:45:05 AM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
PP and rondo possibly only time will tell 6/18/2010 1:45:41 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
the mayer told everyone to stay inside. shits gettin real 6/18/2010 1:49:16 AM |
mytwocents All American 20654 Posts user info edit post |
Antonio is a pile of garbage, worst. mayor. ever. On principle I'm gonna go out and start shit now....brb 6/18/2010 2:00:28 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
imo KG is the only lock right now 6/18/2010 2:30:05 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hahaha. yeah I can't believe someone was stupid enough to call you out on that" |
Making stupid comments garners stupid responses. Maybe next time he will put some thought into his comments so they fall on the correct side of dumb?6/18/2010 8:47:58 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Sheed won't make the HoF And Rondo might have a chance but it's a stretch to call him a lock right now 6/18/2010 10:32:02 AM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
Sheed lead his team to 2 championships. 6/18/2010 10:47:38 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh dweedle, why won't you pull for my Lakers" |
Haha, what? That is a Warriors shirt from the playoffs three seasons ago. Cash is boys with Baron Davis and they were at every game courtside...6/18/2010 11:00:46 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that's what i told him
he turned it into some "well it aint a celtics shirt" thing O_o 6/18/2010 11:10:06 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Reporter: Kobe, what does this 5th championship mean to you?
Kobe: I got one more than Shaq now....
(laughter erupts)
Kobe: ..... Y'all know me, I never forget anything..... 6/18/2010 12:31:55 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Making stupid comments garners stupid responses. Maybe next time he will put some thought into his comments so they fall on the correct side of dumb?" |
pfffft, you can spare me the patronizing words of wisdom. phil jackson will go into the hall of fame, and he'll be considered the greatest coach of all time by those who consider nba championships to be the end-all-be-all of discussion. but that's a very sad, short-sighted, and frankly lazy analysis of his coaching career.
for 9 of his nba championships, he's had the two best players in the world on his team. you can't overlook that. i'll give him credit and say that these last two championships are easily his most impressive, followed by those early jordan rings. rarely have i watched a phil jackson led team in an nba playoff series and thought to myself, "coaching was the difference." even today, if i were to start up a team, i would take gregg poppavich over jackson in a heartbeat. and you could even argue that sloan was a better tactical coach than jackson during those bulls-jazz series.
phil jackson's legacy will be in getting big ego's to work together, which is no easy task, but that doesn't necessarily make him the greatest coach of all time. i honestly think that if you give coaches like pop, sloan, pat riley, even chuck daly those same rosters, you would see similar results. i think the most damming evidence against jackson is how his teams performed when they lost a major contributor. great coaches get players to perform above their potential, in my opinion, and jackson get's players to play to their fullest potential (which isn't bad, i just think his legacy will be inflated). besides, i can't stand seeing him sitting down on the sidelines at the end of games, looking like he's half asleep, only to wake up, put two fingers in his mouth, whistle, and yell,
"kobe....michael...triangle......michael........kobe..........horace"
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM. Reason : ]6/18/2010 1:18:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for 9 of his nba championships, he's had the two best players in the world on his team" |
Quote : | " i honestly think that if you give coaches like pop, sloan, pat riley, even chuck daly those same rosters, you would see similar results" |
why dont you talk shit about popovich since he had robinson, duncan, ginobli, parker...and then shit on riley since he had magic, kareem, worthy, etc...then shit on sloan for having malone and stockton for 50 years and not winning anything...then shit on chuck daly since his two titles were with isaiah, dumars, rodman, salley, etc
your argument is retarded, neither michael or kobe won anything without phil...and the only thing Shaq won without him he won with Wade and Riley]6/18/2010 1:48:37 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^Problem is, you didn't say he wasn't the best coach of all time. You said he only earned two of his championships.
which is a fucking stupid statement to make, regardless of how many paragraphs of horseshit you can conjure up
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : *] 6/18/2010 1:49:39 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
^i was being facetious with that original comment. i thought that much would have been obvious, but i guess it wasn't. whatever
^^my argument hinges on phil jackson having #1 & #2 in terms of best players in the league. not some of the best, but the best. you can disagree with that if you want, but players like parker/ginobli are not or never where the second best players in the league during their championships. and to compare stockton/parker/dumars or whoever to kobe/pippen is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ] 6/18/2010 1:53:46 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
so he did earn them? he deserves credit for all of them then? 6/18/2010 1:56:19 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ, are you being intentionally dense? yes, he has 11 rings. i'm not denying that he has them. i just think he's been very fortunate in his career. he's had the type of fortune other great coaches could only dream of. 6/18/2010 1:58:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "phil jackson's legacy will be in getting big ego's to work together, which is no easy task" |
that, and the 11 rings
titles talk (at least in sports that dont end in ties! )]6/18/2010 2:03:07 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
haha, i was waiting for that soccer jab.
the US totally got dick bavetta'd today, too
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ] 6/18/2010 2:06:17 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on June 18, 2010 at 5:57 PM. Reason : ]
6/18/2010 5:57:02 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well my last post of the nba season:
1. ray allen didn't step up, that was disapointing, a hall of famer should have found a way to get his shot working better in the finals
2. rondo still needs to work on his jump shot a little more, there were a lot of bad possessions because people were playing way off him and he should have just drilled a shot but he's one of my favorite players in the league
3. you can't ask more than that as a fan, both teams gave everything they had, the lakers just graded out a little better
4. I'm really not that bothered by this because of that kobe performance is going to make the jordan stuff a lot more questionable
5. lebron better sign with a team with another superstar now, the supporting cast on the cavs isn't going to cut it, there needs to be a younger talented team to take it to the lakers next yr, not an aging one with questionable offense " |
1. Allen had to guard Kobe the entire series. I'm sure he got gassed simply focusing on his D. There's a lot of players that play slack D in order to do better offensively. He's older to boot...he doesn't have the stamina that he used to have. That said, he did a good job on Kobe all series...he can certainly play D when he has to.
2. Agreed. You can't say he's better than Deron Williams or CP3 until he develops a jump shot. It's a big flaw.
3. Agreed. Ugly game. The team that wanted it more won.
4. I read a something on ESPN that in Jordan's final game, he missed 20 shots. People just don't remember that part because he hit the last one.
5. It would be a bigger testament to LeBron's talent if he can win without having an equally talented teammate. Some will argue that LeBron doesn't have an equal, but it still wouldn't impress me as much if LeBron won a championship with Wade and Joe Johnson.6/18/2010 6:29:42 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sheed lead his team to 2 championships." |
Um, what?
I don't even know where to begin with this.
First of all, Sheed has never won 2 championships. Unless he won in high school or something.
Second of all, Detroit's championship was more of a team effort than any one in recent memory.
You'd be hard pressed to argue that Ben Wallace wasn't the best player on that team. Now if you wanted to argue Chauncey Billups led the team b/c he was the point guard and hit some big shots that's a legitimate stance. If you wanted to say Tayshaun Prince led the team because he absolutely demolished Kobe Bryant, that's also a legitimate stance. If you wanted to say Rip Hamilton led the team because he was their leading scorer, I'd have to disagree with you fairly vehemently but at least you'd be consistent with your scoring fellatio. If you wanted to say the Pistons won that championship because of the great bench play they got from Mehmet Okur, I'd laugh at you but it would make about as much sense as saying Sheed led them to that title.
Detroit was already a top team before they added Rasheed Wallace MIDSEASON that year. He was certainly a valuable member of the team, but what a joke to say he is a hall of famer because he was a key component of ONE (NOT TWO!) championship teams.
Jesus, by your standards we'd have to put Nazr Mohammad in the hall of fame too for leading the Spurs to one of their titles.
[Edited on June 19, 2010 at 3:10 AM. Reason : directed at mambatroll]6/19/2010 3:05:31 AM |