scotieb24 Commish 11086 Posts user info edit post |
haha, gg cptinsano 6/11/2014 4:31:22 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^^ is that really a roy quote?" |
Yikes, time to get some fresh air my friend.6/11/2014 4:33:15 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Lullz, good one cptinsano
Quote : | "JP ?@Joey_Powell Burn banners. Nuke school. Give titles to rival. Let rivals deface school’s ashes and shame alumni. Still won’t be enough. #UNC" |
6/11/2014 4:39:35 PM |
APCrook All American 1451 Posts user info edit post |
that would be the closest thing to an admission of wrongdoing thus far. 6/11/2014 4:41:19 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
^^^it wasn't a question of skepticism. it was a legitimate question - was it Roy that said that, and when and where is it from? GingaNinja was wondering the same.
at any rate, that's an arrogant statement, and basically admits he's doing shady shit 6/11/2014 4:48:21 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
^again, 6/11/2014 4:51:00 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Someone can't handle the truth. 6/11/2014 4:51:35 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
alright, never seen that before got me! 6/11/2014 4:55:16 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "at any rate, that's an arrogant statement, and basically admits he's doing shady shit " |
Yes, ol Colonel Nathan Jessop was doing some shady stuff. From altering the tower log, to ordering the code red, making inappropriate comments to Jo Galloway, to forcing Colonel Markenson to committ suicide. I agree.6/11/2014 4:57:09 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
He stayed true to the code. 6/11/2014 4:59:47 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Maybe he's getting a little old," McCants said Wednesday. "I don't have any control over what he remembers. All I know is the truth, and I'm not up here to lie about anything."" |
lol6/11/2014 4:59:54 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
6/11/2014 5:00:31 PM |
kiljadn All American 44689 Posts user info edit post |
6/11/2014 9:03:25 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
6/11/2014 9:14:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
6/11/2014 9:32:07 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I Still have not figured out exactly what his attentions are with all of this, but I must say that Rashad has carried himself extremely well the interviews and the press. He is making very precise points and keeping his composure such to avoid looking like a nut job. Cold as ice, this man is. 6/12/2014 6:11:43 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Evidently ESPN put up the video online but cut out the part where he said Dean. 6/12/2014 7:38:13 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
You mean DSPN 6/12/2014 7:55:46 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Rashad has carried himself extremely well the interviews" |
Are you kidding me, interviewing for ESPN in a t-shirt and backwards baseball cap?6/12/2014 8:59:16 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Irony: Rashad would've received a better education if he was actually in jail 6/12/2014 9:27:36 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That is like a norm on ESPN these days. I love it when they cut to somebody in their house that looks like they just got done playing with their dog (or kids). 6/12/2014 9:47:41 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
I missed this yesterday. I'm sure the comments are interesting:
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/mccants-so-many-scared-athletes/13721462/ 6/12/2014 9:52:57 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever happened to the senator that was supposedly going to subpoena the NCAA if they didn't explain their reasons for not investigating UNC? 6/12/2014 10:15:02 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
From the "revered" manalishi on PackPride (the guy who's been about 100% on everything he's predicted so far):
Quote : | "And the beat goes on.
McCants has obviously opened up a can of worms, and many of the players are now forced with having to choose sides. (most of the adults/administrators did so long ago) It was known several months ago that a player from one of the "championship teams" would speak out; six weeks ago it came out (in closed circles) that it was McCants. Roy and his teammates knew with plenty of advance, as well -- which is why you saw the "letter of unification" released merely hours after Friday's OTL show.
People can say what the want about McCants (snitch, outcast, etc.), but the fact of the matter is that he's telling the truth. Why? Because the data supports him. The transcript, all of the past players who were AFAM majors, the grade changes, the fraud, the decades of details in the RJA book, etc. So as usual, UNC is attacking someone's character and/or credibility instead of dealing with the statistical data -- because there is no defense for the latter, and they know it. After four years they continue to try and sway public opinion and stall as long as possible. That is the way the fat cats (above even Roy) want it.
Putting other players on the hot seat changes the parameters, however. Most of the adults (involved in athletics/administration, or the Athletic Support Program) are deeply invested in what has taken place. Not only in terms of "brand loyalty," but also monetarily. People have said that their loyalty is like a cult, but a more apt comparison might be like owning stock in a company -- quite literally. The yearly tax records on a few long-gone key figures would be quite telling along those lines... which is also why you'll never see them speak out, no matter how much their names are dragged through the mud in the media. (or even by their own school)
UNC continues to put all their eggs in one basket. Deny, PR, and count on the loyalty of all past participants -- admins, players, support personnel, etc. McCants has broken the mold. There are support personnel (from much further back then the Butch/Wiley years) who have corroborating stories to tell; they will ultimately need to make the head vs. heart choice, as well. Will they be an adult like McCants, or will they sign their name to more lies?
Of the five major events from a few months ago, three have happened -- McCants, the book release, and a major media report. UNC has been fighting through PR to dampen the eventual release of the fourth. It's coming, though.
The fifth one appears to still be off of their administration's (and PR company's) radar. As some posters have alluded to from time to time, the old days of UNC controlling ALL the people in high places isn't quite as applicable today. There are some major state/national figures who have had some favors called in, and their cone of influence extends beyond the good ol' boy N.C. network that UNC has long relied upon. Some of the school's recent responses/reactions may irritate the wrong people, and it could end up being a grand time if so.
Still more things to come -- from some key media figures, and also from a couple of other... let's just say "sources" of information." |
6/12/2014 11:29:12 AM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“No question about it,’’ Williams told “The Drive.” “Our track record is pretty doggone good. And our track record has been pretty doggone good for 15 years at Kansas, nine years at North Carolina. And we know how much we emphasize the academic side in the basketball office. We know what our guys are majoring in. We know – every day we’re in touch with those kids. So it’s something, again, that I’m very proud of." |
Quote : | "“And am I going to sit here and say there is absolutely no way nothing will ever happen? Nothing will ever show up? We don’t know what’s going on every day. I mean, I’ve got 13 to 17 kids, counting the walk-ons and things like that. You don’t know. But boy, I feel really, really good about what’s happened academically in the basketball program since we came.”" |
These are actual Roy quotes, not Col. Nathan Jessup6/12/2014 11:59:28 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
So 95% of UNC "fans" and Rashad McCants have something in common, neither of them attended class at UNC.
This joke been made yet? 6/12/2014 5:58:40 PM |
APCrook All American 1451 Posts user info edit post |
^^the "doggone"s gave it away. 6/12/2014 6:24:27 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Former North Carolina football player Deunta Williams stood up for his fellow Tar Heel Rashad McCants Thursday afternoon in an interview with Adam Gold and Joe Ovies on 99.9 FM The Fan." |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncaa-sanctioned-williams-players-who-speak-out-demonized-/13729670/6/12/2014 9:06:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A recent Public Policy Poll shows that most North Carolinians hold a favorable view of UNC-Chapel Hill – and that most people don’t closely follow allegations of academic fraud involving athletes." |
http://chapelboro.com/news/unc/ppp-poll-nc-residents-approve-unc-despite-scandal-allegations/6/17/2014 12:58:59 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
that shits amazing to me 6/17/2014 1:53:05 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Some guy on PP posted a smiley face
6/17/2014 1:57:10 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Thats what I'm saying. If everyone on this board wrote emails asking questions about the alegations to 99.9, they would cover it more. Then the walmart legions would start to possibly get a clue about whats going on in chapel pile. 6/19/2014 11:20:58 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
http://abc11.com/sports/unc-academic-investigation-update-expected-friday/124070/
Update on Friday, I wouldn't expect any bombshells or anything. 6/19/2014 1:00:39 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully, this Friday ends the UNC scandal 6/19/2014 1:17:53 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
watching now
6/20/2014 10:00:26 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Derek Rowles @DerekRowles 4m #UNC Investigation -- Wainstein says 80 ppl interviewed, 1.5M emails/docs reviewed, including transcripts.
Derek Rowles @DerekRowles 4m #UNC Investigation - Wainstein says a written report will come this fall .. says timeline is difficult to predict.
Derek Rowles @DerekRowles 3m #UNC Investigation - BOG asks no questions of Wainstein. None.
Derek Rowles @DerekRowles 27s #UNC Investigation - Wainstein says UNC not privy to any results until his report is final." |
Sounds like a non-update6/20/2014 10:12:39 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Is the meeting over? If not, link? 6/20/2014 10:22:29 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5850 Posts user info edit post |
Yea its over. lasted 5 minutes. no question by the board. 6/20/2014 10:56:43 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
"UNC prof cooperating with fraud investigation, could see criminal charge dropped — Dr. Julius Nyang'oro, who faces a federal fraud charge for collecting payment for a class that never met at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is cooperating with an investigation there, the Orange County district attorney said. That cooperation may earn Nyang'oro dismissal of his criminal charge, the DA said. Read more at http://www.wral.com/#U88C6iXmgWYFRbTU.99" 6/23/2014 6:04:28 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
The beginning of the end. This seems to be petering out... 6/23/2014 6:15:38 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10250 Posts user info edit post |
You kidding? Nyangoro is cooperating to avoid criminal charges. He's gonna spill all the proverbial beans. 6/23/2014 6:30:04 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ Seriously? "Spill" what beans? The DA is a UNC grad, I'm not sure he will ensure the whole truth is revealed, this indictment was all just a dog an pony show. They indicted him for just ONE class. What about rhe other fake classes? Grade forgeries etc?
Everyone wins, and goes home rich! No one from UNC is forced to take the stand, and UNC will "move on" from a "closed" chapter. Fuck this shit!!!
[Edited on June 23, 2014 at 6:37 PM. Reason : ] 6/23/2014 6:35:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148332 Posts user info edit post |
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Fry The Stubby 7783 Posts user info edit post |
more shocking news at 11 6/23/2014 9:02:14 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently came up during the Obannon trial.
Quote : | "Stewart Mandel @slmandel · 45m NCAA and Dickman going through NCAA's eligibility standards in painstaking detail. Wilken: "I'm not seeing the immediate relevance."
Stewart Mandel @slmandel · 12m Here we go … plaintiffs asking Dickman about the UNC cheating scandal.
Stewart Mandel @slmandel · 10m Well that didn't last long. Attorney: Is the NCAA investigating North Carolina? Dickman: "I don't know, that's not my department."" |
6/24/2014 4:20:08 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52977 Posts user info edit post |
Since when in the hell do you get criminal charges dropped for "cooperating" with a non-criminal, 3rd-party investigation? In what world does that make any damned sense? 6/25/2014 12:17:34 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ 6/25/2014 12:19:34 AM |
Fry The Stubby 7783 Posts user info edit post |
if only i could break the law, cheat at my job, get 12 grand, rat out everyone else and still skate. i can't even get a warning for a speeding ticket. 6/25/2014 1:00:10 AM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
DA ponders dropping charges in UNC 'paper classes' case
TROLOLOLOLOL! Fuck this shit
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/29/us/unc-classes-scandal-criminal-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 6/29/2014 9:58:06 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
UNC is untouchable...
unfuckingbelievable 6/30/2014 11:43:41 AM |