Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
SL/SL + resto druid
gayest thing to ever happen to 2v2 is fair.
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[Edited on November 7, 2007 at 7:27 PM. Reason : +340] 11/7/2007 7:27:02 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
what's SL/SL? 11/7/2007 9:14:35 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
syphon life + soullink 11/7/2007 10:03:07 PM |
markbrandpan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
de-nerfing hypothermia, trainable ice block, rescaling mana gems/retooling mage mana issues:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765962725&pageNo=2&sid=1#33
wow, blizz is caving to the whiners
thank god 11/8/2007 12:14:50 AM |
Novicane All American 15414 Posts user info edit post |
how the fuck do you do nightbane phase 2? DBM no longer marks who has the debuff. 11/8/2007 1:45:28 AM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't follow a certain person anymore. Just have everyone group up and as soon as the rain starts everyone just moves away and it'll stay where everyone used to be standing. 11/8/2007 2:35:23 AM |
Novicane All American 15414 Posts user info edit post |
^ thanks. were like yelling at people "WHO HAS IT, NEEDS TO MOVE NOW" lol
Whats the best way to get down the skellies? Right now we got a paladin with half tanking gear on AoEing them and we /assisting him. 11/8/2007 8:23:51 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Ok so the mage changes are ok, but ice block should NOT be trainable. If you are gonna do that why not go ahead and make impact or blazing speed trainable as well. That shoud be a frost talent only as it was designed. They gave fire mages ways to escape as well, now because mages cant learn to control their dps and aggro they are getting one of the most useful aspects of being frost? Bullshit imo. 11/8/2007 8:39:11 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
i have to agree. i mean why not just give everyone everything now. there are specs for a reason...i dont expect to be able to tank well as full DPS. So I dont go complain in the forums "ZOMG let me have last stand and deathwish, and sweeping strikes, and improved intercept all at once. ITS NOT FAIR! ". If i want a prot talent, i spec prot. If i dont, i dont deserve that talent. Plain and simple. 11/8/2007 8:46:12 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
We usually had me (a rogue) as the MA and I'd just burn shit down as quickly as possible. 11/8/2007 8:48:00 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly, their only saving grace may be what they do to replace that point in frost. Say some sort of improved ice block that maybe cant be mass dispelled, or gives the mage health/mana while ice blocked or something of that nature. Either way like you said you spec one way for a reason, why should a mage be able to AP/POM/Pyro and then ice block come on now... oh and I do have a mage so its not just coming from someone who is going to get pwned by one. 11/8/2007 9:01:20 AM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
its another example of blizz catering to whiners. The whole point of the frost tree is increased survivability, while doing less damage than fire/arcane. It's a choice, you can't have everything, you either get more dps, or more survivability, not both. (if they do go through with this, that shit better not be affected by cold snap). 11/8/2007 9:17:46 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
does ice block wipe aggro?
[Edited on November 8, 2007 at 9:20 AM. Reason : because the paladin divine shield doesn't and its basically the same thing] 11/8/2007 9:20:01 AM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
^ not /really/ but if a mob goes to attack you while you have it up, it moves to the next target on the aggro list. hopefully that target is the tank and get take you over in the 18s you're in iceblock.
Quote : | "Whats the best way to get down the skellies?" |
have a war demo shout and start cleaving/sweeping strikes/whirlwinding then have a lock seed the shit out of them. if you guys are undergeared assisting a rogue or something is probably best.
as for iceblock, it really won't matter. no arena mage is going to give up the utility of the pet and all the faggotry that goes with it (shooting stealth targets, getting people in combat, extra dps). you might see a couple 3min mage teams get a little bit more rating, but mass disspell will still own then as will every other melee class if they aren't frost.11/8/2007 9:29:49 AM |
cain All American 7450 Posts user info edit post |
i love double mage teams. I get a BoF, and just run around clubbing them silly 11/8/2007 10:33:03 AM |
markbrandpan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
^spellsteal
but as a mage, i also agree that trainable block is a bit much...i'm thinking blizz will move cold snap to the 21 point talent and replace the 11 point frost talent, thereby offsetting its utility to some degree
regardless, hypothermia looks more reasonable now (instead of being an unnecessary change in the first place)
also, i doubt you'll see any 3-minute or even deep fire mages with good ratings (2k+) even with trainable ice block thanks to resilience/longer fights 11/8/2007 1:49:50 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ok so the mage changes are ok, but ice block should NOT be trainable. If you are gonna do that why not go ahead and make impact or blazing speed trainable as well. That shoud be a frost talent only as it was designed. They gave fire mages ways to escape as well, now because mages cant learn to control their dps and aggro they are getting one of the most useful aspects of being frost? Bullshit imo." |
it wont change anything at all from an arena standpoint as any mage worth 2 shits was frost anyway. basically they gave mages an "oh shit" button for pve, although if you pull aggro in a raid setting you prolly messed up the aggro table and caused a wipe anyway. (and its not like iceblock wipes threat either) sure there will be some pom/pyro mages in arena but the only thing iceblock changes is that their death is delayed by 10 seconds. (or less if you have a priest)
in the end, the net result is an extra talent point for frost mages.
[Edited on November 8, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ]11/8/2007 2:16:38 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, does someone have a guild on a pvp server where i can just come in and get loot from time to time. I dont have time to grind shit for pots and whatever, so it would be great if you've already beaten everything so i can just ride the raid to the purps. Also please dont be a guild full of serious business faggots.
tia 11/8/2007 2:20:57 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
shaggar
i just realized that we know each other. (outside and before WoW)
you're Hawaiian t-shirt dude.
[Edited on November 8, 2007 at 2:24 PM. Reason : .] 11/8/2007 2:24:05 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
i mean i knew we've played wow together, but when did we meet IRL? 11/8/2007 2:25:08 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
You lived with Kevin in bragaw didn't you? I lived with Kevin C./Evan/Brian/Joe/Brandon etc.
I remember specifically giving you the nickname hawaiin shirt dude. 11/8/2007 2:32:57 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
I roomed with porcha(Will) when i was in bragaw. 11/8/2007 2:37:57 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
I know we hung out some! I remember Will, not as vividly though. 11/8/2007 2:39:25 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Did you play NS at all? 11/8/2007 3:09:45 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
not really, i played some with brenn though
I know we ate at fountain a few times together. maybe with mcdanger? 11/8/2007 3:10:30 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure we've met, but I dont remember 11/8/2007 3:18:00 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
I was "the black one" fyi 11/8/2007 4:22:06 PM |
Novicane All American 15414 Posts user info edit post |
anyone on PTR? going to transfer my priest over for some zulaman preview. 11/8/2007 4:47:27 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
the only way a rogue will succeed in arena season 3 is by specing for adrenaline rush/prep maces. i wanted to stay mutilate, but it's just not going to work at the 2200+ level 11/8/2007 5:49:15 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
not really much point into putting a toon on ptr at this point. tuesday is supposed to be patch day. 11/8/2007 5:57:24 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
rogues are going to be just as good as they were this season ... look at rotard if you're confused as to what i speak 11/8/2007 6:32:11 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
this is what you people play... 11/8/2007 6:36:21 PM |
Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
^fail 11/8/2007 6:52:12 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I'm not saying they're bad right now. I'm saying they'll probably be much better next season with the changes being made to subtlety. 11/8/2007 7:44:03 PM |
MiGZ All American 2314 Posts user info edit post |
Who wants to play my 53 druid fully rested to 58? Anyone?? It will be fun, I promise! 11/8/2007 7:57:40 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
well ran kara for the 2nd time on my shaman, killed prince, picked up a sweet healing cloak, good times since I havent raided in forever. Now if only I could finish the grind on my priest from 68-70. 11/9/2007 1:42:24 AM |
porcha All American 5286 Posts user info edit post |
MajesticTreeFrog 11/9/2007 2:41:02 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, him. 11/9/2007 7:34:49 AM |
Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
Hello. My name is yukat and i am 4/6 SSC.
11/9/2007 11:30:41 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
how is your ret paladin's damage? why do you have him in there? 11/9/2007 11:54:33 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
You know something is messed up when you can down Leo now with comfortable ease yet can't seem to manage downing A'lar. 11/9/2007 12:41:38 PM |
Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
we haven't tried alar. Our Ret pally is like 7-8th on damage usually. I dunno for us its pretty random who is 3rd and on for damage for even the same fight different weeks. Its never a problem, i've never seen an enrage timer on any boss since TBC (25 or 10 aside from maybe alt runs in kara) regardless of trying different strategies. On Fathom we killed the totems and were still a few minutes ahead of enrage. So as for dps we're pretty flexible with who we take.
In SSC we have Hydross, Lurker, Tidewalker, and Karathress. No Leo no Alar. We were doing VR stopped because trash takes to long. We're going to go back into TK in the next few weeks.
[Edited on November 9, 2007 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ] 11/9/2007 7:41:00 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
leo is fucking EASY with a shaman or 2 in the raid 11/10/2007 12:00:01 AM |
Walls1441 All American 10000 Posts user info edit post |
we tried him for the first time like two days ago. I think they got him to 30~35% after a few attempts then the warlock tank had to go (he's a fireman and there was an oil spill in california or something) so gg. i dunno i wasn't there.
[Edited on November 10, 2007 at 1:16 AM. Reason : Clarification] 11/10/2007 1:15:04 AM |
alee All American 2178 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone on Greymane? I'm looking to get out of the raiding desert that is Duskwood. 11/10/2007 11:59:17 AM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Buy these mans!
account 1: Human mage PVE transfer up mainly kara/heroic epics spellfire and spellstrike sets 375 tailor/enchanter 28 heroic badges saved 4 primal nethers
account 2: NE druid PVE transfer up kara/heroic epics for feral dps, feral tanking, and resto(15k +healing) can't remember the feral stats and prepaid time is up, but both sets are just about the best you can get before 25 mans 375 skinning/LW around 9k honor banked
pm me with any offers or questions 11/11/2007 12:39:23 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
I am loving that 15k healing. 11/11/2007 1:38:07 PM |
JK All American 6839 Posts user info edit post |
5v5 11/11/2007 7:34:15 PM |
philihp All American 8349 Posts user info edit post |
[Bulwark of Azzinoth] - Modgud [Zhar'doom, Greatstaff of the Devourer] - Comfy [Robes of the Tempest] - Desemus [Robe of the Malefic] - Chekmate
2007-11-08
11/11/2007 10:37:25 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone on Greymane? I'm looking to get out of the raiding desert that is Duskwood. " |
I play on Greymane. I really couldn't tell you how the raiding scene is compared to other servers, but for what it's worth there are two guilds on alliance side that are killing Illidan.
Also somehow during the course of the night in SSC I wound up with two max rank healthstones.
edit: apparently when you SS it removes the hand/pointer/thing but you can see the blue line around the healthstone showing that I was mousing over it at the time
[Edited on November 12, 2007 at 1:33 AM. Reason : .]11/12/2007 1:29:44 AM |