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soulfire963
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a good pvp'er knows how to work around CloS

11/30/2007 7:57:43 PM

MunkeyMuck
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!

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 1:22 AM. Reason : read ^^ wrong ]

12/1/2007 1:21:31 AM

smoothcrim
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you're right, with bc we got cloak of shadows, deadly throw, the ability to use both our daggers, make our finishers undodgable?? and intercept, minus the stun, with a longer cd that requires to first snare ourselves. you got a fucking AE stun that does damage, a stunning/cleaving pet that takes 30% of your damage and increases your damage 20%, seed of corruption, the most powerful AE in the game, a snare with 0 cast 0 diminishing returns and 0 cool down. are you really fucking trying to talk about another class qq'ing over a nerf? blizz even acknowledges locks are overpowered in pvp.


[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 3:10 AM. Reason : .]

12/1/2007 3:07:13 AM

Lumex
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Ya that does sound overpowered.

Oh wait, those things you mentioned are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

12/1/2007 3:11:42 AM

toemoss
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yeah, i love the 41/41/41 spec

and btw, soul link is 20% damage taken by pet, and 5% extra damage

12/1/2007 8:33:36 AM

timswar
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"blizz even acknowledges locks are overpowered in pvp."


where?

12/1/2007 8:43:49 AM

Walls1441
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no, blizz acknowledges that SL/SL is OP in 2v2.



l2macespec.

[Edited on December 1, 2007 at 9:37 AM. Reason : +]

12/1/2007 9:36:39 AM

soulfire963
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i kill locks just fine as sword spec, stunlocking arena geared locks from 100 to 0 ftw

12/1/2007 12:42:12 PM

smoothcrim
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everything I mentioned for rogues was a 41 point talent as well. I am mace spec. I DO kill locks. I just think it's bullshit that once rogues get a decent pvp spec, you know, one that's somewhat rogue like (where stealth works and all that good shit), we nerfed 2 weeks later. It not like we kill things now that we didn't kill before. every warrior is ms/deathwish and everyone said they were op'd. what happens? they get all their shit in the same tree to make spec'ing for pvp easier and more flexible and a slight nerf to mace spec (I haven't seen it btw). nerf hemo all you want, but atleast give rogues the mobility they've been asking for for atleast a year. hemo is just a pacifier we aren't ready to give up for 0 alternative

12/1/2007 1:24:00 PM

Lumex
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Not that I dont think rogues deserve a little more, but they stand a decent chance against warlocks. Try taking on a lock as a shaman - theres just no chance without blowing a 10 min cooldown, regardless of either class' spec.

12/1/2007 4:41:10 PM

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"Try taking on a lock as a shaman mage - theres just no chance without blowing a 10 min cooldown, regardless of either class' spec."

12/1/2007 4:53:08 PM

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Warlocks complaining about Shaman.

The Devil called, he says it's fucking freezing.

12/1/2007 5:01:50 PM

MunkeyMuck
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Just got on my lock to try out this sl/sl spec. Blows for burst damage but lols at top KBs, Damage, Healing, and very few deaths in every wsg today.

12/1/2007 6:17:10 PM

Doss2k
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So from what I hear they are chaning earth shield to a 30s cooldown, but possibly making it trainable and replacing the 41 point talent with something else.

12/1/2007 6:46:27 PM

soulfire963
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^ they may as well just make all talent abilities trainable. in about a year i expect all other good talent abilities to become trainable anyway.

12/1/2007 7:34:56 PM

Doss2k
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I guess thats thier fix to the fact the realized its worthless now with hunters and arcane shot. Id rather them just switch ES to a dispell effect just dispells charges rather than the whole thing.

12/1/2007 7:46:35 PM

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http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20071202005054&newsLang=en

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"Activision, Inc. (NASDAQ: ATVI) and Vivendi (Euronext Paris: VIV) today announced that they have signed a definitive agreement to combine Vivendi Games, Vivendi's interactive entertainment business -- which includes Blizzard Entertainment’s® World of Warcraft®, the world’s #1 multi-player online role-playing game franchise -- with Activision, creating the world’s largest pure-play online and console game publisher."


hmmm...

[Edited on December 2, 2007 at 12:09 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2007 12:05:19 PM

Shrike
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Hahaha, EA just shat their pants.

12/2/2007 12:13:30 PM

DamnStraight
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my warr is almost 70, for dps im tryin to figure out what spec is best and between dw or 2h...
any help?

12/2/2007 7:42:36 PM

soulfire963
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for pve, dw fury is prob the best dps spec with good +hit gear

for pvp definately MS

12/2/2007 7:43:54 PM

DamnStraight
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ok, then on the pve side, would i look for fast or slow weapons for dw?

12/2/2007 7:49:46 PM

soulfire963
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if im not mistaken, i believe its relatively fast weapons for both hands for PvE (better rage gen, and bloodthirst is based off AP, not weapons)

[Edited on December 2, 2007 at 8:08 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2007 8:08:10 PM

DamnStraight
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wasnt rage normalized?

12/2/2007 8:48:38 PM

Lumex
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No, actually you want Slow/Slow because now Whirlwind hits with mainhand and offhand.

12/2/2007 8:54:59 PM

soulfire963
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yeah, thats for burst for pvp

12/2/2007 9:20:16 PM

HockeyRoman
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Not that it's actually a huge deal but we downed Astromancer tonight after the second night of attempts. Didn't have enough heals to make any Vashj progress though.

12/2/2007 9:36:55 PM

MunkeyMuck
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Thinking of Xfering my horde lock. Mal'Ganis blows.

Where are horde getting:: instant qs and are wining the majority in bgs?

[Edited on December 2, 2007 at 10:22 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2007 10:22:13 PM

JK
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come to Azgalor.

12/2/2007 10:47:59 PM

ssclark
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if yoyuu had to reroll ... lock or rogue I need votes

12/2/2007 10:52:54 PM

Walls1441
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I love my warlock. I like being able to pvp (maybe not arena) with pretty much any spec. You can rape face with pretty mediocre gear if you're good.

12/2/2007 10:54:54 PM

MunkeyMuck
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"come to Azgalor."


how are BG/Arena times? BG win ratio?

12/2/2007 11:24:13 PM

ThePeter
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^Bloodhoof has low Horde que times and very high win rates, or so i hear. I know the win ratio is high for them, but i'm alliance.

On that note, if any casual alliance raiders are looking for a transfer my guild downed the second boss of zul'aman tonight, most of us live in the raleigh area and/or go to NC State, we all get along pretty well.

/shameless plug

12/3/2007 12:25:06 AM

MunkeyMuck
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yeah, it's looking like ruin

12/3/2007 12:48:53 AM

Shrike
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http://tinyurl.com/2scu67

Important quotes:

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"Among the headlines: this merger has not ignited any plans for a “World of Warcraft” console game. “We don’t have any plans on the console side,” Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime said. “Blizzard’s focus is on the PC side. If we were to release anything on the console side it would be managed on the Blizzard side of the business.”"


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"Most of the talk on the call involved financials and repeated explanations that the combined company is projected to have the largest income of any game publisher. Activision CEO Robert Kotick estimated that Activision Blizzard will have 15% of the $28 billion worldwide gaming market, allowing plenty of room for growth. He said the company will have 6000 employees, about half of them in “product development.”"


From the original deal, this "merger" was essentially Vivendi/Blizzard buying 52% of Activision with $1.7 billion in straight cash. All your monies, hard at work

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 10:05 AM. Reason : :]

12/3/2007 10:04:23 AM

soulfire963
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all my monies at hard work for more profits for them, while still recieving shitty customer service, overshot release dates, and buggy content that doesn't get fixed for weeks (sometimes months, years).

12/3/2007 10:29:16 AM

ssclark
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^ glad this was your first mmo ... welcome

12/3/2007 11:41:14 AM

soulfire963
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not my first mmo, had better treatment from the gm's in EQ, and deadlines usually kept.

12/3/2007 11:53:51 AM

nastoute
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my guess is that you were being as big of a bitch there as you are being here

12/3/2007 11:54:48 AM

soulfire963
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im pretty sure i speak for everyone when i said what i said.

12/3/2007 11:59:16 AM

nastoute
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you probably do

because most people get really bitchy when they don't get what they want immediately

it's a flaw in human nature

12/3/2007 12:00:36 PM

soulfire963
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not really a flaw, when people pay money, they expect some kind of return.

12/3/2007 12:03:02 PM

nastoute
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you pay 15 bucks a month

at most

12/3/2007 12:03:28 PM

cain
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i love complainers that play. its like watching someone take a bite of food and going "o god, this is rotten" and then finishing the plate and going back for more.

12/3/2007 1:58:48 PM

nastoute
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nice analogy

12/3/2007 2:00:05 PM

soulfire963
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quit acting like you've never complained or been annoyed at something in-game before.

12/3/2007 2:05:28 PM

Walls1441
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i specced improved blizzard, and everything has been fine since.

12/3/2007 2:08:01 PM

nastoute
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^^

nah man, I haven't complained... not seriously, where I gave a shit

why would I, it's just a fucking game

it I disliked it, which I have many a time, I QUIT

...

the only thing I disliked was being reported for cursing people out... (THERE'S A FILTER FOR A REASON)

probably reported from someone... like you... a big cry baby

[Edited on December 3, 2007 at 2:08 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2007 2:08:35 PM

Shrike
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It's pretty hard to get suspended/banned for cursing someone out unless it's on the extreme end of racism.

12/3/2007 2:09:47 PM

nastoute
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i got suspended for like 3 hours once

i was really rude to the GM though

12/3/2007 2:11:42 PM

Walls1441
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i got a 2 day ban for telling someone to fuck off in trade chat without a GM ever talking to me.

12/3/2007 2:13:44 PM

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