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"these announcers make me sick."

i found myself longing for the OLN coverage... i think i greatly prefered it

6/11/2006 1:57:10 AM

THE NBC ANNOUNCERS ARE THE OLN ANNOUNCERS

6/11/2006 2:02:45 AM

ahhahahahahhaha

6/11/2006 2:08:53 AM

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"In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and offensive player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed."

Directly from the rule book.

You guys need to learn the game of hockey before you start bitching and complaining.

6/11/2006 8:43:25 AM

really?
musta been the graphics or something...
or the camera work...
sometihng was different...
don't know what it was...
maybe the canes lethargic play was affecting me too

6/11/2006 8:49:41 AM

I will say that OLN's HD feed seemed better than NBC, which is odd. I wish NBC had put a camera in the RBC Center like OLN did with Rexall.

6/11/2006 9:57:20 AM

NBC'S HD CHANNEL AUDIO ON TIME WARNER CABLE IN RALEIGH NC ZIP CODE 27605 IS THE WORST OF ANY HD CHANNEL

UNLESS MY HARMON KARDON RECIEVER IS TO BLAME

HIGHLY POSSIBLE


20 MINUTE INTERVALS, AUDIO CRACKLES OR COMPLETLY GOES OUT
NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OTHER HD CHANNEL

6/11/2006 10:11:52 AM

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"In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and offensive player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed"

Maybe I'm just an "ignorant southerner" (who has been watching hockey for about 15 years now), but I could have sworn that in order to play a puck, you needed to have your stick on or near the ice. Ryan Smyth's stick was up, and his hands/arms were planted on the crossbar, making it pretty darn tough to legally play the puck.


But what would I know. I'm just a dumb southern hick who is too simple to understand hockey.

6/11/2006 11:17:24 AM

Erm, the puck wasn't on the ice.

6/11/2006 11:25:39 AM

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"NBC'S HD CHANNEL AUDIO ON TIME WARNER CABLE IN RALEIGH NC ZIP CODE 27605 IS THE WORST OF ANY HD CHANNEL UNLESS MY HARMON KARDON RECIEVER IS TO BLAME HIGHLY POSSIBLE 20 MINUTE INTERVALS, AUDIO CRACKLES OR COMPLETLY GOES OUT NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OTHER HD CHANNEL"

It's NBC and it's fucking terrible.

6/11/2006 12:47:23 PM

why'd the Fire Laviolette thread get locked? it wasn't serious, just something to have fun with.

6/11/2006 12:52:48 PM

I'm not sure who called who an ignorent southerner (surely wasn't me) but the play was reviewed. You guys can bitch about the refs making questionable calls. But review are made by the higher ups who I'm sure have a lot more integrity than to call something just to make a good series....

6/11/2006 1:14:08 PM

yeah alot more integrity to make sure the series goes deeper than 4 games so they make $$$$$

6/11/2006 1:31:15 PM

the only thing you can argue about that goal is maybe interference and thats not conclusive because of the presence of the carolina defender pushing symth into the net

6/11/2006 1:39:28 PM

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"yeah alot more integrity to make sure the series goes deeper than 4 games so they make $$$$$"

Yeah, I'm sure NBC is fucking amped that they get to show the ever-so-highly-rated NHL playoffs instead of Deal or No Deal.

Lets all get out our tinfoil hats!

[Edited on June 11, 2006 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2006 1:53:17 PM

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"yeah alot more integrity to make sure the series goes deeper than 4 games so they make $$$$$"

Give me a break, thats rediculous. They are NOT going to "fix" a game by allowing a goal to make more money....

6/11/2006 2:46:44 PM

the officials were bad, not biased

6/11/2006 2:49:17 PM

The problem (which I thought was glaring) and noticed it immediately in the NBC HD broadcast vs the OLN HD (INHD) is definitely the camera zoom.

If you notice NBC keeps swinging the camera in and out of zoom and it's so much harder to follow the puck when its shifting across the blue line. If it stays in a zone near the goal long enough the camera will zoom in and you dont notice, but any shift and it swings out.

Looks terrible and way too herky jerky.

6/11/2006 2:50:24 PM

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" the Bobcats have a bigger appearl in NC than hockey. "

I think you are mistaken, sir. I have never met anyone who gives 2 shits about the bobcats, and I damn sure dont.

6/11/2006 2:57:26 PM

just my opinion..but the canes got just plain beat....they were getting beat to most of the loose pucks and they lost a lot of face-offs...Peca owned us on the dots and the physical play seemed like it took the canes of thier game a little.....but they'll pick it back up tomorrow i'm sure

6/11/2006 3:11:04 PM

I agree the canes did just get beat and they have won games while playing worse but they didnt play as well as they should. I also agree that nbc in HD sucks.

6/11/2006 3:38:56 PM

FINALLY!!! Some fans who can just admit the Canes had a bad game and not blame everything on officiating

6/11/2006 5:16:30 PM

we need some fans like this

6/11/2006 6:04:04 PM

i agree, the canes just got outplayed

we couldn't carry it into their zone worth a damn

the oilers clogged the passing lanes well

the oilers know the canes would rather pass than shoot

frankie's the only one who will shoot in a circumstance that's not the most beautiful setup ever

6/11/2006 6:19:34 PM

haha without reading the past 5 pages or so, let me guess....everyone has been flaming about how that shouldn't have been a goal, and how the nhl is conspiring against carolina right?

lol, yea right, it was a legit goal, they reviewed it for about 5 minutes, get over it and get ready for game 4


just read this, and at least a few people can admit it

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"just my opinion..but the canes got just plain beat....they were getting beat to most of the loose pucks and they lost a lot of face-offs...Peca owned us on the dots and the physical play seemed like it took the canes of thier game a little.....but they'll pick it back up tomorrow i'm sure"

I mean edmonton owned that game, the only reason it was 6-1 is bc cam is playing like a superstar

[Edited on June 11, 2006 at 7:29 PM. Reason : fdg]

6/11/2006 7:26:51 PM

Very true. Commie and Wesley in particular don't seem to throw it to the front of the net enough. Edmonton won last night by scoring two "ugly" goals. We need to do the same in Gm 4. Let's just throw 'em to the front of the net and hammer away at the rebounds.

6/11/2006 7:27:58 PM

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"I think you are mistaken, sir. I have never met anyone who gives 2 shits about the bobcats, and I damn sure dont."

this is because you're in raleigh. here in charlotte, its the exact opposite (except i do care about the hurricanes, but you get the idea)

by the way, i finally found some canes stuff here in charlotte, at value city. its actually the same place i found my canes jacket at several years ago. the t-shirt is kinda lame, but it was only 5 bucks. it says, "Losing...One Sign You Aren't a Hurricanes Fan". kinda funny since they were so bad the last couple years.

[Edited on June 11, 2006 at 8:00 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2006 7:59:33 PM

the canes will score at least 4 goals tomorrow

6/11/2006 8:09:23 PM

You're halfway there. That's right. Eight goals.

6/11/2006 8:10:44 PM

no, thats not going to happen. we'll win, but it wont be a blow out

6/11/2006 8:29:20 PM

T - 23 hrs

a tradition that keeps this club winning

6/11/2006 8:51:01 PM

T - 22 hours

^ agreed.

6/11/2006 10:08:53 PM

The GWG last night was reviewed because it appeared that Smyth might've kicked the puck. Goaltender interference is not reviewable or overturnable.

6/11/2006 10:36:21 PM

^yea, i mean i thought that as soon as I saw the replay, but it looked incidental to me, more like he moved his foot to avoid busting his ass and running into cam instead of to kick the puck

6/11/2006 10:52:27 PM

T - 19 hours
come on 'canes, steal a road game, woot

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"frankie's the only one who will shoot in a circumstance that's not the most beautiful setup ever"

yeah, he's definitely the best point defender for the pp. is it just me, or does anyone else get nervous as shit with staal on the point? whenever there is a bouncing puck coming out he never plays the position on the opponent to try to contain the puck, he just keeps moving forward and trys to swat the puck back in.

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"the officials were bad, not biased"

that is correct. there was no consistency in the officiating. some touchy things were called, like kevyn adams "hook" that led to the 5 on 3. some big things were missed, like aaron ward getting cross-checked right in front of the net (like none of the officials saw that since the puck was right there). there were also some things for the oilers, i just can't remember specifics.

bottom line is the 'canes lost because they failed to establish and offensive rhythm and puck control for the first 40. but to only lose by 1 on a lucky garbage goal makes it seem that if the canes can play solid for 60 minutes, they should be able to get the series lead. lets hope that they find their groove quickly and stay in it for the rest of this series.

6/12/2006 12:57:01 AM

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"here in charlotte, its the exact opposite (except i do care about the hurricanes, but you get the idea)"

Well, at times, nobody cares about either one around here. I, like you, care about both. However, I will say that anyone that I've had over to watch the hockey games are starting to actually enjoy hockey.

6/12/2006 1:43:41 AM

Go team!

6/12/2006 4:55:53 AM

well.. I see HTML is back...

6/12/2006 5:22:01 AM

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"haha without reading the past 5 pages or so, let me guess....everyone has been flaming about how that shouldn't have been a goal, and how the nhl is conspiring against carolina right? lol, yea right, it was a legit goal, they reviewed it for about 5 minutes, get over it and get ready for game 4"

That's a neat debating trick.

And ftr, I think we played like crap and deserved to lose. But, I thought the goal was questionable because he skated straight into the crease at the same time as the puck. I believe the commentators even said, during a replay, that he entered the crease at the same time as the puck. That's obviously not a rebound, and in my mind, it shouldn't constitute a 'loose puck' if it's still being played by the skater. I know that it's an extremely difficult call to make, but it seems like from what I've seen in watching hockey thus far, officials tend to be very protective of the goaltenders. But all that being said, I do recognize the fact that I am by no means a hockey expert, and will yield to the wisdom of such a person providing expertise without being a troll, a douche, or some combination of the two.

Could they have even called a penalty on the replay?

6/12/2006 8:33:59 AM

^I don't think it's a penalty to be in the crease before the puck, i believe that rule was changed after game 6 of the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals lol

6/12/2006 9:03:57 AM

T - 10 hrs


LGLGLG

6/12/2006 9:57:26 AM

Looks like they aren't posting the NHL Live link again, so here it is http://www2.nhl.com/radio/nhllive/nhllive03.asx

6/12/2006 9:57:29 AM

^^^^ The crease rule was never a penalty in the first place, and an interference call is unreviewable. On top of that, the crease rule was indeed abolished a number of years ago.

You're right when you say that officials protect goaltenders, but it's for good reason. Goaltenders where no protection against bodily contact, particularly on the head. The goal mask is made to protect against pucks, but it's actually very poor at protecting against large masses. On top of that, there is literally no padding on the back of the goaltender aside from a light spine plate and elbow caps, and goaltenders are often sitting ducks for injury, as seen by the relatively benign-looking hits that led to knee injuries in Roloson and Garth Snow.

6/12/2006 10:20:47 AM

the crease rule was never abolished...just adjusted...the rule is "no harm, no foul"

6/12/2006 10:29:44 AM

Apparently Big Joe is supposed to play tonight, and Staal didn't skate this morning .

6/12/2006 11:10:39 AM

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"^I don't think it's a penalty to be in the crease before the puck, i believe that rule was changed after game 6 of the 1999 Stanley Cup Finals lol"

stfu right now!!!!!!!

we don't speak of that debauchle ever, FUCKING EVER OKAY


and btw,

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"Could they have even called a penalty on the replay?"

Just like any other sport you can never initiate a penalty via reviewing a play

[Edited on June 12, 2006 at 11:15 AM. Reason : dfsf]

6/12/2006 11:13:53 AM

^I was just answering a question and stating when the rule was changed, i never mentioned why it was changed, so why don't you shut the fuck up

6/12/2006 11:55:46 AM

hey how come there are no fights?

is it just because it's the stanley cup and people are behaving themselves or what? [/noob question]

6/12/2006 12:12:26 PM

Uh... you don't want to run the risk of getting suspended/thrown out in the biggest series of the year?

6/12/2006 12:18:17 PM

I don't mind Staal getting pulled a bit. He's played like utter crap for the past 4 games.

6/12/2006 12:19:39 PM