Quote :

"Instead, we get penalized if that team's defense throws a pick, and the opponent runs it back for a touchdown."

most leagues are like that

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 1:05 AM. Reason : /]

10/6/2010 1:04:53 AM

I have 5 receivers

Calvin Johnson
Braylon Edwards
Mark Clayton
Percy Harvin
Steve Smith (NYG)


I need to start 2 or possibly 3 (1 in flex) this week. I am adding Ryan torain (still on waivers). is torain worth the flex spot? Its the GB defense, IDK

tell me who i should play

thx

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 1:15 AM. Reason : NYG]

10/6/2010 1:15:25 AM

I would start Johnson, and Edwards without question. I would check up until gameday as to whether or not Portis is going to play, if he doesn't play Torain, if he does, play Clayton who has a pretty solid matchup this week.

10/6/2010 8:24:44 AM

deal is pretty much done

Quote :

" Moss According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Patriots will receive Minnesota's 2011 third-round pick when the Randy Moss deal is finalized. The trade appears imminent, though Schefter is also reporting that Moss will head to Minnesota without a new contract. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer says the only way this trade doesn't happen is an "unforeseen breakdown," and all signs point to Moss becoming a Viking again sometime Wednesday"

sounds like he will play on Monday Night Football this week against the Jets and Revis Island

10/6/2010 8:35:57 AM

Who do I start Tolbert or Matthews this week? That's the only real decision I have to make since A. Foster, Lloyd, and Austin are all must starts. Clayton is forced into the flex (unless I start Matthews and Tolbert .) since Garcon is still having hamstring issues and Walter is hit or miss,

I think someone asked this yesterday but it was never answered. I'm leaning towards Tolbert myself

10/6/2010 8:41:24 AM

I am being offered a trade I'm not so sure I want

I am supposed to give Andre Johnson and Bret Favre for Michael Vick and Louis Murphy.

I need a QB, and I think I could stand to take the hit of losing AJ, but I don't like Louis Murphy. My backup QB would be Sam Bradford and my other WRs would be DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, and Brandon Tate.

10/6/2010 8:42:40 AM

That's a terrible trade.

10/6/2010 8:50:21 AM

Also, 17 games for Moss this year

10/6/2010 9:16:20 AM

^^^that is a terrible trade

I was just thinking how Randy Moss isnt getting a bye week this year, Minnesota is coming off of their bye week last week, and the Pats bye week was supposed to be this week. Good news for fantasy owners I guess

well guess I shouldnt have taken that phone call before posting

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 9:18 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/6/2010 9:17:36 AM

Who should I pick up off waivers (#1 out of 14) this week? I have Witten at TE who hasn't done jack this season and I can pick up either Shiancoe or Scheffler. Torain and Michael Bush are also both available but I do already have Beanie Wells and Frank Gore at RB, but I will need a 3rd RB for upcoming bye weeks.

10/6/2010 9:48:22 AM

heres a great article/slideshow breaking down the impact the Randy Moss trade has to the members of the Vikings and Patriots

http://www.rotoworld.com/premium/slideshows/?id=118&sport=NFL

10/6/2010 9:52:44 AM

Savvy owners pick up Brandon Tate right now.

Everyone doesn't, but savvy owners do.

That is all.

- The Guru

10/6/2010 9:52:50 AM

Damn I have Moss on two of my teams. I'm thinking this reduces his value as the Vikings have a strong run game and old ass Favre who has sucked this year. Maybe this trade will motivate Moss to step up his game.

What about Welker? Dude is going to be covered by the best corners now, Tate probably is a sneaky pickup.

10/6/2010 9:59:19 AM

I say it increases his value

Think about how Sidney Rice did last year, then realize Moss is twice the receiver Rice will ever be

It will be bombs bombs bombs away for Favre and him all year

10/6/2010 10:01:33 AM

^ Good point. Hopefully Favre will start playing better now too. I have him on one team as well and have been starting shitty ass Eli in place of him because of Favre's poor start. I think Aaron Hernandez could be a good pickup now at TE as he'll see more looks with Moss out of the picture.

10/6/2010 10:22:36 AM

Pick 2, please:

WR Lance Moore @ Arizona
RB Mike Tolbert @ Oakland
WR Dez Bryant vs. Tennessee

10/6/2010 10:27:47 AM

yeah Moss's value skyrockets, I think Harvin's value goes up as well as he wont have to be the #1 WR anymore and face the best CBs. He will fall back into the role that did him so well last season when Sidney Rice was around. Harvin's value might take a hit if/when Rice comes back, but until then, he should sit pretty.

Bernard Berrian and to a lesser-degree Visanthe Shiancoe will lose their value. Berrian has been terrible all season as the #2 WR, its gonna fall even more as the #3 WR behind Moss and Harvin.

on a different subject, pick my two RB this week. we get 1/2 point per reception

Ray Rice vs. Denver
Cedric Benson vs. TB
Michael Bush vs. SD
Ryan Torain vs. GB
Tim Hightower vs NO

I have Benson and Bush penciled in right now. Denver shut down CJ2K last week, and Rice is still banged up. Rice and Benson COMBINED for 6 fucking points for me last week, that cant happen again. I could make a case for Torain as well, but GB's defense is pretty good. It's pretty much a toss-up between the top 4 RBs (excluding Hightower) for me

^I'd go with Tolbert and Bryant. Lance Moore is too hit or miss for me - getting most of his points from deep throws, and I could see the Saints getting ahead by a lot early, so unless Moore gets his points early, he could put up a goose egg. He could also put up 120 yards on 2 catches with a couple TDs. Bryant will get more receptions, but might not get the yardage of Lance if he gets targets early.

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 10:52 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/6/2010 10:33:27 AM

Rice and Benson


Rice is going to break out sooner or later and Denver could very well be the team that suffers.

10/6/2010 10:57:52 AM

ugh, he just burned me so bad last week.

Rice's line @ Pitts: 8 carries for 20 yards, 1 reception for 9 yards. 2.75 total points

Benson's line @ Cle: 15 carries for 60 yards, no receptions. 4.50 total points

Michael Bush vs. Houston: 7 carries for 40 yards, 1 rushing TD, 2 receptions for 16 yards. 10.50 total points

Ryan Torain @ Philly: 18 carries for 70 yards, 1 rushing TD, no receptions. 11.30 total points

10/6/2010 11:35:37 AM

<rant> I hate to say this but it the Vikings don't win the super bowl it'll be a shame (assuming they can get healthy again).

Brett Favre
Adrian Peterson
Randy Moss
Sidney Rice (back before playoffs?)
Percy Harvin
Bernard Berrian
Visanthe Shiancoe
Jared Allen

I mean they have 4-5 future hall of famers on this team.... </rant>

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM. Reason : .]

10/6/2010 11:39:03 AM

Pick 1:
Hill, Gradkowski, Freeman

Pick 3:
Turner, Mathews, J. Best, Torain, M. Bush

Also, any opinions on M. Lynch's value at Seattle?

10/6/2010 11:46:39 AM

last night i traded Darren McFadden for Percy Harvin before this all went down...

good call or bad call?

(I also have Chris Johnson, Arian Foster, Bradshaw)

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM. Reason : s]

10/6/2010 11:48:23 AM

I think its an alright trade. I think you're losing out by getting rid of DMC with the way he's playing so far, you probably couldve got a better WR. But, I think Percy Harvin's numbers are going to spike with Randy Moss in town. Moss will get all of the top CBs and double-teams, Harvin will go back to his role as a solid WR2. Harvin isnt the most polished WR in the league, so going against top-notch CBs hurt him a little bit, now he will match up against the 2nd CB every week and his numbers should go up because of it. Just think, this week he wouldve been matched up with Revis, now Moss will draw his attention and Harvin will get a beatable Cromartie

which D/ST would you want this week;
Dallas vs. Tenn
Carolina vs. Chi
SF vs. Philly
NYG @ Houston
ATL @ Cle

also, which QB would you pick going forward:

Jay Cutler @ Car (on roster already)
Carson Palmer vs. TB (on roster already)
Brett Favre vs. NYJ (would have to trade for him, but I have Moss on my roster so that could be worth pursuing as the manager wants to trade Favre)
Sam Bradford @ Det
Shaun Hill vs. Stl
Kevin Kolb @ SF

10/6/2010 12:02:39 PM

I see StL/Det being a shootout, so I'd roll the dice on one of those QBs. I think ATL is probably the safe choice on defense too

10/6/2010 12:07:17 PM

What do yall think of the situation in San Diego with Tolbert and Mathews?
Tolberts been better all year but Mathews has more upside and i feel like SD has to use him since he is their 1st rd choice?
Cant decide which one i wanna start this week.

10/6/2010 12:18:22 PM

Quote :

"Savvy owners pick up Brandon Tate right now."

Think he's worth dropping Michael Bush or Jason Witten for?

10/6/2010 12:18:38 PM

drop bush for him

10/6/2010 12:23:46 PM

man, the big question now for me is A. Hernandez worth losing my #2 spot on the waiver to pickup vs. waiting to see if he becomes FA on friday....

My TE is Carlson and I picked up Watson for this week...so I need a TE...

10/6/2010 12:28:59 PM

you wouldnt lose your waiver if you just picked him up though, right?

In my league, you only use waivers when someone is dropped then you want to add them. "Free Agents" (players who weren't on anyone's roster) don't require that.

10/6/2010 12:33:04 PM

it sounds to me that he isnt a FA yet (he will clear waivers and become a FA on friday according to his post)

10/6/2010 12:42:56 PM

waivers only come into play when you want to pick up the person immediately upon becoming FA... when the waivers go through if the player is still available, then you can pick the player up on FA without penalty (meaning you don't lose your waiver spot)

so if you think the player is going to get picked up on waivers use it.
if you think the player will still be available, wait til he's a FA

^^my guess is someone dropped him, or some weird league rule

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2010 12:43:28 PM

yeah, he was just dropped yesterday for Mercedes...I'm just trying to gauge how popular of a pickup he'll be now with Moss gone...it's a gamble to wait, but I do think he'll have lots of value going forward...

10/6/2010 12:45:31 PM

Quote :

"Reid: Kolb taking all reps. Won't rule Vick out, but stretch for him to play this week. Reid: McCoy making progress with his injury, but won't practice today."

http://twitter.com/caplannfl

^also:

Quote :

"Hernandez ran vertical routes in predraft workouts very well from what I understand. Teams saw him in that role. What I didn't have in my piece on the Moss trade is to look for Aaron Hernandez flexed out more like Finley is with the Packers."

More on McCoy:

Quote :

"McCoy (cracked rib), who did not practice Wednesday, could practice Thursday, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports. Spin: Coach Andy Reid has expressed optimism that McCoy could play Sunday against the 49ers, but we'd feel a whole lot better about that possibility if he is able to get some practice in by the end of the week."

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ,]

10/6/2010 1:22:37 PM

Kevin Walter, Mario Manningham, or Knowshon Moreno at my RB/WR?

My QB situation: I know Orton is basically a must start at this point...but Flacco is going against Denver's weak secondary...does that change anything, or should I still go Orton?

10/6/2010 3:08:40 PM

Orton simply because it doesn't matter if Moreno plays or not. They won't be able to run the ball against Baltimore.

I'd start Walter.

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2010 3:22:55 PM

Quote :

"Portis out 4-6 weeks with a groin injury."

glad I picked up Torain.

10/6/2010 3:52:47 PM

^^ Agree with both Orton and Walter

Pick 1:
Hill, Gradkowski, Freeman

Pick 3:
Turner, Mathews, J. Best, Torain, M. Bush

Who would you rather drop for Brandon Lloyd:
M. Bush, M Lynch, J. Knox. D. Bowe

Also, any opinions on M. Lynch's value at Seattle?

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

10/6/2010 4:32:27 PM

^I'd probably go with Freeman, Mathews, Best, Torain, and I'd probably drop Bush.

I don't know about Lynch's value really...I picked him up in one of my leagues. He'll be Seattle's #1 but I don't know how well he'll perform. I would say, if you can pick him up without dropping someone too valuable for him, then go for it.

10/6/2010 7:01:19 PM

gd, the people my league are on the ball. picked up all the good players earlier in the day. I'm going to have to set my damn alarm clock on wednesdays

10/6/2010 9:13:13 PM

Which one of these WRs would you start:
Kevin Walter, Mario Manningham, or Nate Washington

And which one of these RBs would you start:
Felix Jones, Timmy Hightower, Beanie Wells

I'm leaning to Beanie...and no clue on WR

10/6/2010 9:32:36 PM

^Walter. Especially if Andre is still hurt.

10/6/2010 10:38:06 PM

Who should I start this week?

Pick 2

Reggie Wayne vs KC
Greg Jennings vs WAS
Randy Moss vs NYJ

10/6/2010 10:42:05 PM

^^I was thinking about that and I kind of think Johnson's injury - if he's out this week - may not be that great for Walter. Walter may be one of those guys who is better as a #2 option, where less focus is on him by opposing defenses. That's my only concern with him.

Which of these RBs, Beanie, Hightower, or Felix Jones

10/6/2010 11:10:40 PM

^^I don't know if Moss will be that great this week...may take him some time to adjust (new QB, new system...). No idea if I'm right about that or not, but it's just a thought.

10/6/2010 11:12:20 PM

i bet he gets 3 TDs

10/6/2010 11:27:09 PM

Ryan Torain vs Green Bay OR
Jahvid Best vs St. Louis?

Also:

Pick 3:

Desean Jackson
Chad Ochocinco
Kevin Walter
Brandon Lloyd

10/6/2010 11:39:19 PM

Quote :

"Pick 2 Reggie Wayne vs KC Greg Jennings vs WAS Randy Moss vs NYJ"

Go with Jennings, top QB throwing to him against one of the worst pass defenses in the league. But Reggie Wayne should do well also I would think, but KC's defense is pretty good thus far.

No way Randy Moss does much against one of the better defenses and doesn't know the offense well

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr

10/6/2010 11:40:36 PM

Pick 2:

Desean vs SF
Moss vs NYJ
Driver vs Wash
Floyd vs Oak
Walters vs NYG

Right now I am starting Desean and Moss on hopes of big games, but my gut is saying Desean and Floyd.

Also should I start Eli vs Houston or Favre vs NYJ this weekend? I got Eli starting as that Jets D will probably shut down Favre.



[Edited on October 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM. Reason : l]

10/7/2010 8:42:52 AM

I think Desean will continue to have problems with getting his normal deep passes with Kolb behind center

as far as Floyd goes, he will be matched up against Nnamdi Asomugha, who is just as bad a Revis. I think he will be shut down this week

with that said, I would probably go with Desean and Driver. Its tough, I do think Moss will have a good game and will be the benefactor of Favre throwing some deep jump balls, but I am probably in the minority and Moss will have another stinker game.

10/7/2010 9:45:24 AM

so is it gonna be kolb? is vick definitely not gonna play? and what about cutler? I am going to pick my defense based on this...

10/7/2010 10:17:33 AM