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12/21/2011 9:27:18 PM

we have less talent but a bit more experience then last year, considering we have the same team minus Smith, Javi and Harrow

so any improvement over last years record is a success, whereas some dropoff isnt necessarily a failure.

this is basically a free year for Gott but this thread will still be used to gather for/against arguments for good/bad trends.

end stating of the obvious

12/21/2011 10:08:43 PM

One thing that's quite different....we have a MUCH harder schedule.

We're also learning a new system, with a first year Point Guard, so that can't help.

Captain obvious says we are a decently talented team across the front line, but we have zero depth. The main thing I've looked for under Gottfried is defensive improvement, rebounding, and hustling.

Our hustling, conditioning, and rebounding seem a ton better. Defense is a bit better, but It still has a long way to go

12/21/2011 10:16:36 PM

lo played plenty of PG last year

also, somehow the acc might be even weaker then last year, which reduces our schedule strength a bit. also, we played duke twice last year along w/ really good wisconsin and arizona teams.

12/21/2011 10:24:18 PM

True...I was talking about "up to this point" really. Our OOC schedule, overall, appears to be a good bit tougher. Even though we played Wisconsin (Which probably equals an Indiana game) and Arizona (Syracuse this year), it seems we've played a lot more solid mid-major conference teams in between.

Not sure what the SOS says about Lowe's team last year, but it just seems like we've played some pretty tough "scrub" teams this year.

At the end of the year, I'd say it should equal out with a weaker ACC.

12/21/2011 10:33:56 PM

wisky finished the year higher in rpi than zona, both in top 20 along w/ Gtown (who actually finished higher than both) and 'Cuse. Mason finished 24.

to be fair i was also surpised at how high Gtown was and the crappy teams we played were really low.

12/21/2011 10:39:29 PM

Quote :

"and Arizona (Syracuse this year)"

we played syracuse last year too.

12/21/2011 10:51:30 PM

i think he meant in terms of quality, but yea wrong either way unless he is saying indiana is better than cuse

12/21/2011 10:52:26 PM

Our schedule is significantly harder this year. Last year our SOS was 66th in the country. Currently it's at 20th in the country.

12/22/2011 9:42:54 AM

Moreover, our non-con SOS (Pomeroy) was 230-something last year. 35th this year.

12/22/2011 9:50:35 AM

+18 cred for the number of stars currently in our recruiting class.

12/22/2011 10:25:42 AM

you cant rank strength of schedule 1/3rd through the season

12/22/2011 10:34:21 AM

But what's the SoS of our recruiting class?

12/22/2011 10:36:30 AM

^^I'll bet you my paycheck that this year's OOC SOS of 35th doesn't change to be worse than 230.

12/22/2011 11:39:22 AM

^
I'll take that bet. No lose situation.

12/22/2011 11:40:21 AM

Can't say I'd blame you.

Just saying, last year we played some decent teams, but they we also played some horrible, horrible scrubs that dropped the SOS. NCCU has been the closest thing to a scrub we've had this year (and they are... just not as much of one as Farleigh-Dickens or whatever it was).

12/22/2011 11:45:33 AM

last year we really did play the bottom of the dregs. This year most of the teams are top 200 so our SOS OOC will be higher.

12/22/2011 1:19:54 PM

Just got an email from godaddy that http://www.firemarkgottfried.com/ is up for renewal.

I registered it the day he was announced to preempt any jackass ncsu fans from being jackasses.

I don't have any intention of renewing it. anyone want it?

1/6/2012 11:17:51 AM

Gottfried was the name of a facist-jew-hating-swede in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

not relevant but just FYI.

1/6/2012 11:38:58 AM

Quote :

" NCCU has been the closest thing to a scrub we've had this year (and they are... just not as much of one as Farleigh-Dickens or whatever it was"

Central has been one of the very worst division 1 teams the last few years. They are god awful. They are the epitome of a scrub.

1/6/2012 11:51:27 AM

Hey Justin-dude, they're actually much improved this year over year's past. They actually have two good D-I transfers on their team this year.

[Edited on January 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ]

1/6/2012 11:54:32 AM

They're still fucking awful

1/6/2012 12:03:56 PM

Yeah, but last year I'm pretty sure they were the worst team we played.

[Edited on January 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason : Much improved shit is still shit.]

1/6/2012 12:06:07 PM

I realize they're (relativeily) a terrible team, but they've been stomping some even shittier teams this year:

vs JOH (who?) W 115-41
vs MOR (who?) W 112-50
vs. BBS (who?) W 104-55

1/6/2012 12:27:37 PM

isn't this like their 3rd season of D1 basketball?

1/6/2012 12:30:21 PM

Bullet is pulling out NAIA and JuCo scores?

You've lost.

1/6/2012 12:36:11 PM

Lost? what am i trying to win? I said they've improved. I'm not saying they're a good team. I think you just lost.

1/6/2012 12:38:08 PM

Central is DEFINITELY better than Broughton

1/6/2012 12:39:28 PM

Read the damn thread, jeez.

Somebody stated " NCCU has been the closest thing to a scrub we've had this year (and they are... just not as much of one as Farleigh-Dickens or whatever it was"

That's what all this was in response to. Nobody said they were actually a good team. Quit being such a black/white extremist.

1/6/2012 12:41:42 PM

Sorry, Central is PROBABLY better than Broughton

1/6/2012 12:43:25 PM

Central is PROBABLY the worst team in the entire history of the world.

1/6/2012 12:44:51 PM

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/899/1194935.MP3

about 1/3 of the way through when he's talking about Lorenzo Brown, he brings up Tebow...

+10 for dropping "shit" in the interview

1/6/2012 2:35:28 PM

Quote :

""If you're going to take a step back and look at the season, I would say we have to get [to 11 wins] now. We've had that conversation, and now it's one. We have to win one Sunday. In the grand scheme of things, we have to win 11."

+10 for not sugarcoating

1/6/2012 6:41:57 PM

So according to the Raleigh Nightlife thread this



is Coach Gott's daughter with Jaqawn Raymond. Positive cred points for Gott I guess? Although it seems like a lot of negative points could come from this as well.

1/8/2012 9:30:45 AM

chick in the right corner is begging for a photoshop

1/8/2012 9:36:00 AM

Gott pimping out his daughter(s) to keep recruits?

Fuck it, I'm on board.

1/8/2012 9:38:18 AM

Do people still say jungle fever? Just curious.

+1 for breeding hot/non-racist daughter.

1/8/2012 9:57:43 AM

2 things. First I guess we won't have to worry about Raymond transferring. Second a big lol at the girl with the big "x" on her hand holding a big long island iced tea.

[Edited on January 8, 2012 at 10:06 AM. Reason : ]

1/8/2012 10:06:18 AM

11-4 going into the ACC schedule.

That's pretty cool.

1/8/2012 11:18:10 AM

nice cheekbones

1/8/2012 12:53:40 PM

+1 cred for the jacket over the shoulder Alex P Keaton style while staring down of the official to protest that BS foul call on Wood

1/9/2012 11:55:29 AM

probably a bad idea for a guy that can barely get on the court as is.

1/9/2012 11:57:50 AM

wat

1/9/2012 11:58:47 AM

(raymond)

1/9/2012 12:01:13 PM

Quote :

"Gottfried knows that the Wolfpack can get a whole lot better By Josh Goodson For the NC State men's basketball team over the past 2 decades very rarely did you hear much optimism surrounding the program. However, after a 79-74 victory to open ACC play on Sunday night against a team that they had lost nine straight contests to, the Maryland Terrapins, it is easy to be excited about what is going on in Raleigh. While it's exciting for a Wolfpack (12-4, 1-0 ACC) fanbase who is desperately wanting to be nationally relevant again, Head Coach Mark Gottfried is not going to let himself or his team get ahead of themselves. "We feel like we can get a whole lot better. That's the good news right now," said Gottfried in an interview with The Insiders on 620 The Buzz. Gottfried realizes that while winning their opener is very important, he is honest about the situation and realizes there are still 15 more conference games remaining that are equally as important. While there are many contributions coming from all over the court for NCSU at this point, it is the play of two specific players which has helped spear-head the Wolfpack on their current six game winning streak. When Lorenzo Brown, sophomore guard, was given the task of being the Wolfpack's starting point guard this year, there was a bit of worry from the coaching staff on how fast he will grasp the role and duties come with that possession. Well after a 11 point, 9 assist, 7 rebound and most importantly only 1 turnover performance against the Terrapins, I believe all doubts have been put to rest. Gottfried said about his point guard, "He (Lorenzo) has a lot of confidence right now...and just needs to continue learning that position". Another big question heading into this season was what kind of effort the Wolfpack was going to get out of sophomore CJ (Calvin) Leslie. Leslie, who was often ridiculed last season for lack of effort and being somewhat uncoachable has appeared to turn over a new leaf in becoming a complete basketball and dangerous threat for the Pack. Leslie is coming off a double double against the Terrapins, where he scored 20 points and had 11 rebounds. Gottfried will be the first one to sing the praises of Leslie. Gottfried said, "Calvin's been really good. He's a tough matchup for opponents." Gottfried knows there is still plenty of work to do and many goals to accomplish and to do so he must keep his players on the track and keep them right on course. NC State returns to the court on Wednesday night when they host the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets."

1/9/2012 12:23:29 PM

leslie became a complete basketball? wow!

1/9/2012 12:46:32 PM

Quote :

"becoming a complete basketball and dangerous threat"

[Edited on January 9, 2012 at 3:22 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2012 3:12:53 PM

lolol

1/9/2012 3:19:38 PM

Quote :

"@wxmoose: Hey, @Mark_Gottfried, haters gonna hate: http://bit.ly/AmkIoD Retweeted by Mark Gottfried "

lulz

1/9/2012 3:30:58 PM

Still early, but I'm really thinking we hit the Jackpot with Gottfried. He's been nothing but great.

1/9/2012 3:36:40 PM