pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
Man this hurts to lose, but nothing will compare to the charge Marshal got away with in the ACC tourney..I will never forget that... 3/24/2012 1:14:38 AM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kansas is going to fucking stomp Carolina" |
Not shooting 1/14 from three. They won't get the second chance points that they hurt us with. And they won't get UNC's bigs in foul trouble.
I agree that if Kansas plays like they are capable of they will beat UNC. But if they play like they did tonight they will not.3/24/2012 1:15:09 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
I hope neither team plays like they did tonight. the UNC and Kansas teams that took the floor tonight playing against each other would be a horrific game to watch. 3/24/2012 1:16:47 AM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
who cares about unc/kansas. kentucky is gonna win it all. 3/24/2012 1:17:31 AM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
Kansas has played 2 shit games in a row, you'd have to think they'd snap out of it...but after 80 minutes of sub par offensive basketball it seems habitual.
Good news, Roy Williams is an absolute shit coach...he has an effective system and wins with that system, as long as he has an ELITE point guard. He can't make in game adjustments. Bill Self has the edge, Kansas just has to stop playing like ass 3/24/2012 1:17:43 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Any of you dummies that think Kansas is going to roll UNC need to get your heads checked 3/24/2012 1:18:05 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
We really did blow this game.
CJ Williams did not play enough
For some reason Gottfried took him out in favor of Alex Johnson right after he made a pretty amazing shot.
CJ Leslie tried to force the ball too much.
Scott Wood did not get enough open threes. He is totally capable of taking over a game but that did not happen tonight. 3/24/2012 1:18:25 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^^^ right.... so, you're ok with a team reaching the sweet 16 every year? the heck with that, I expect more. I'd say it to anyone in person. This team was capable of making the final four and they didn't do it.
All that is way different than saying I'm not proud of them, but I don't think they quite reached their full potential. I wish Wood would have canned that 3 to take the lead, then we all would be happy again.
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:19 AM. Reason : ] 3/24/2012 1:18:44 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
we had a free walk into the final four by beating our arch rivals. thats a once in a generation opportunity that won't come back no matter how good we get. 3/24/2012 1:19:55 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
3 weeks ago you same assholes were telling us we weren't a tourney team....
I'm fucking outta here. 3/24/2012 1:20:12 AM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
I can't sleep..i thought for sure we were going to the final four....Wood probably would have missed if Howell got him the ball anyway...then overtime???
Need to get better free throws 3/24/2012 1:20:45 AM |
TheAlum Suspended 112 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, I am pretty sure we could fill this thread with people who thought we wouldn't even make the tourney. The guys played well, the officiating was consistent both ways whether you like to admit it or not, Kansas was the better team. 3/24/2012 1:22:23 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "CJ Leslie tried to force the ball too much." |
The whole team forced the ball too much. It was verging on panic scrambles when we couldn't make anything happen inside. There was no swagger and confidence like the previous games.
Quote : | "Scott Wood did not get enough open threes. He is totally capable of taking over a game but that did not happen tonight." |
He looked gassed for a lot of the second half, he's still too streaky to really be a game changer. When he missed about three decent looks in a row it was pretty obvious nothing good was going to come of him except when Kansas bafflingly kept bailing him out with fouls.
Quote : | "we had a free walk into the final four by beating our arch rivals. thats a once in a generation opportunity that won't come back no matter how good we get." |
this.
But really I'm just bitter and depressed. It's mindblowing the amount of progress this team has made over the course of one season, and the ability of Gottfried's coaching staff to affect such a turnaround.
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:25 AM. Reason : ]3/24/2012 1:22:28 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
A. Howell rebound out of bounds B. Wood 3 down 1 C. Leslie force after wood miss D. Wood out of bounds E. Johnson free layup F. Wood open at the end
If we could make any one of those plays, we might have won. 3/24/2012 1:23:40 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Howell forced the ball too much. Every Howell play should have been a pass out to a shooter or swing to setup Leslie. Leslie probably could have passed out more, but he really was saving our asses for the most part.
We need more shooters, though. Replacing Williams with Purvis should help, and Brown is going to be shooting 3 pointers all summer. 3/24/2012 1:25:28 AM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we had a free walk into the final four by beating our arch rivals. thats a once in a generation opportunity that won't come back no matter how good we get." |
This. This. This. There is nothing positive anyone can say that will help drown out the realness of this quote. Won't get back this far for a long, long time.3/24/2012 1:28:10 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We need more shooters, though. Replacing Williams with Purvis should help" |
Clearly you have never watched Purvis play.3/24/2012 1:28:45 AM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
kansas was not an easy walk for this team. 3/24/2012 1:28:59 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
sigh
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:36 AM. Reason : .] 3/24/2012 1:29:56 AM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet 16 is not that far. We'll be back soon (2-3 years max) but this run just had such a team of destiny feel that I really thought we would win at the end and be able to knock out UNC for the final four.
^Actually its replacing an athletic black guy with a more athletic black guy
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:32 AM. Reason : .] 3/24/2012 1:30:53 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldve felt good getting blown out by ohio state saturday 3/24/2012 1:32:09 AM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
at half time I said "If we hit 4 threes in the second half, we win" ...we hit 3 (well, 1 and wood's 6 ft from fouls) so close 3/24/2012 1:32:51 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Replacing an athletic black guy with a white guy should help." |
wait, what?3/24/2012 1:33:19 AM |
ltownking All American 1084 Posts user info edit post |
^ i think it is a funny? 3/24/2012 1:34:22 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^^^^^^ right.... so, you're ok with a team reaching the sweet 16 every year? the heck with that, I expect more. I'd say it to anyone in person. This team was capable of making the final four and they didn't do it." |
So much failure in your post.
Let's start with:
Previous year: 5 ACC wins Current season: tied for 4th place(with a new coach) Sweet 16. No one thought we would make the tournament. We win two games and almost beat a 2 seed to make it to the elite 8 Have you followed our recruiting?
Lol. "sweet 16 every year" what's that mean bro??? Have you followed our program?
STFU3/24/2012 1:36:41 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
yes it was a funny i suppose,
i'm too drunk to taste this chicken.
just disregard me.
Good night. 3/24/2012 1:37:07 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Fuckibg refs wouldn't call anything on robinson. Fuck this pitty bullshit NCAA bball is rigged 3/24/2012 1:37:50 AM |
TheAlum Suspended 112 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fuckibg refs wouldn't call anything on robinson. Fuck this pitty bullshit NCAA bball is rigged" |
Really? Dude the game was not officiated all that bad. Come on..... There were bad calls here and there for both.3/24/2012 1:40:08 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Don't engage the drunks. 3/24/2012 1:40:52 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm too drunk to taste this chicken." |
fair enough, continue on sir3/24/2012 1:41:53 AM |
pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
can't hang a banner for moral victories...losing sucks...but at least i'm bitter about it and not depressed, so that's a nice change i suppose 3/24/2012 1:41:56 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
throw some of this anger at purdue. 3/24/2012 1:44:11 AM |
HiWay58 All American 5111 Posts user info edit post |
Playing with house money.
Great season guys, great season.
Good luck in the NBA Leslie, welcome all of our new great recruits under an awesome new coaching staff. Great things ahead.. Never upset about an unexpected sweet 16 birth. 3/24/2012 1:44:13 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
With this team, we had a final 4 talent squad. Next year, we should be better. I expected sweet 16 with lowe and it never happened.
I don't think you can call my post a "fail" when I expect us to be better. For the last 5 years we had the talent to get this far, but never did. Good for Gott, I look forward to next year, but I'm not over this year yet. 3/24/2012 1:44:50 AM |
TheAlum Suspended 112 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Good luck in the NBA Leslie, welcome all of our new great recruits under an awesome new coaching staff. Great things ahead.. Never upset about an unexpected sweet 16 birth." |
OMG YOU ARE A NON-BELIEVER!!!!3/24/2012 1:45:28 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Yo quiero Amile.
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:46 AM. Reason : .] 3/24/2012 1:45:51 AM |
mburns26 Veteran 149 Posts user info edit post |
How the hell did Kansas squeak through another game? 3/24/2012 1:46:09 AM |
HiWay58 All American 5111 Posts user info edit post |
TheALUM
I hope he returns, absolutely hope he returns, but it's a rather weak draft class and he'd be stupid not to go with what's coming next year. 3/24/2012 1:47:31 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Hey Kim. Fix me a sammich. I'm hungry. 3/24/2012 1:47:55 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "With this team, we had a final 4 talent squad." |
That is some potent crack you are smoking.
Quote : | "For the last 5 years we had the talent to get this far, but never did." |
this is too retarded to even contemplate3/24/2012 1:48:45 AM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
hey NCSUapex, keep being a dick, you're good at it
^ are you kidding?
mccauley, costner and crew. That team should have been a 7 seed at worst if they had a coach who was any good.
we were 1 fucking open wood 3 away from the elite 8 against a depleted rival. How fucking often does that opportunity arise?
[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 1:50 AM. Reason : ] 3/24/2012 1:49:06 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
smokin the good stuff 3/24/2012 1:56:43 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "are you kidding?
mccauley, costner and crew. That team should have been a 7 seed at worst if they had a coach who was any good." |
Nobody who isn't a complete homer thinks that roster was impressive
Quote : | "we were 1 fucking open wood 3 away from the elite 8 against a depleted rival. How fucking often does that opportunity arise?" |
How often it arises means jack shit. And saying we had final four talent is a gross overestimation of Howell, Wood, Williams, Painter and Johnson.3/24/2012 1:58:32 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Ugly game from both teams. Hopefully Kansas turns it on against unc 3/24/2012 1:59:59 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
i kept waiting for jaqawn raymond to come in and launch some 30 foot bank 3's.
never happened. 3/24/2012 2:02:23 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
We have actually severely underachieved with the talent we have had over the years because of bad coaching.
With all the 5 and 4 star players along with McDonald all americans we have had, we should have achieved more. Just because Duke and UNC have loaded rosters doesn't mean you can't at least make the tourney with the rosters we had.
We are actually an outlier in terms of failure given the number of McDonald all americans that we have (http://statsheet.com/bhsb/mcplayers_by_college).
Likewise, plenty of mid major and major conference teams have done more with lesser talent.
This year, we finally achieved what we should have achieved with our talent.
People just have a really warped view of what we need because of UNC and Duke and because of years of bad coaching under Herb and Lowe. 3/24/2012 2:03:17 AM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't buy that we were underachieving with Javi, Mays or Degand running the point. Lowe's first and last season you can argue, but not the middle three seasons. 3/24/2012 2:10:12 AM |
TheAlum Suspended 112 Posts user info edit post |
skokiaan we lost to Kansas... in a game we should have won for sure. We didn't underachieve, Kansas is pretty decent 3/24/2012 2:11:18 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
I like how skokian virtually disappears while we are winning and then once we lose he shows up in full force. you fucking suck dude 3/24/2012 2:11:25 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We have actually severely underachieved with the talent we have had over the years because of bad coaching.
With all the 5 and 4 star players along with McDonald all americans we have had, we should have achieved more. Just because Duke and UNC have loaded rosters doesn't mean you can't at least make the tourney with the rosters we had.
We are actually an outlier in terms of failure given the number of McDonald all americans that we have (http://statsheet.com/bhsb/mcplayers_by_college).
Likewise, plenty of mid major and major conference teams have done more with lesser talent.
This year, we finally achieved what we should have achieved with our talent.
People just have a really warped view of what we need because of UNC and Duke and because of years of bad coaching under Herb and Lowe." |
Very valid points, but it does take a season or two to weed out the shit habits, discipline and end game mentality. We can only get better next year! This time for real LOL!3/24/2012 2:17:07 AM |