Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt Rivera's seat is as hot as we all want it to be. 12/1/2014 10:11:54 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Currently sitting at the #8 pick
I'd take Cooper or the best OT tackle on the board in a heartbeat at that spot. 12/1/2014 11:25:52 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
At least New Orleans and Atlanta won this week to go ahead and get that idea out of our heads that there is still a chance. 12/1/2014 12:02:59 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think Cooper is a heck of a talent, but when is the last time a NFL team took WR's in the first round 2 years in a row and had a notably better team for it?
Problem is I don't see any sure-fire top 10 OT's popping up so far this year. I'm sure a few guys(Scherff? Stanley go pro early? Peat?) will bubble to the top come combine time after Kiper and the media hype them up. 12/1/2014 12:56:53 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think Cooper is a heck of a talent, but when is the last time a NFL team took WR's in the first round 2 years in a row and had a notably better team for it?" |
I understand your point, but I wouldn't allow precedent to interfere with team needs. Right now we are COMPLETELY devoid of playmakers on offense and Cooper is legit as fuck.
I also believe this isn't a one year fix type of situation, so we should just start stockpiling as much talent as we can on that side of the ball and see how it shakes out in 2-3 years.12/1/2014 1:05:35 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Calvin Johnson didn't make the Lions good right away or on his own, but they sure do love having him. If Cooper can be that for the Panthers then I would support that pick. 12/1/2014 1:11:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I also believe this isn't a one year fix type of situation, so we should just start stockpiling as much talent as we can on that side of the ball and see how it shakes out in 2-3 years. " |
agree with this.
i'm all for taking best player available at this point. we need all the talent we can get.12/1/2014 1:14:26 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
cheap talent, too 12/1/2014 1:21:48 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11964172/deangelo-williams-carolina-panthers-broken-bone-hand
DeAngelo is injured.....again. 12/1/2014 2:51:27 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
this season is over for the Panthers.
until we get Stewart and Williams off of our payroll we're gonna be strapped by the salary cap. having Hardy play would have been nice, or at least not having the $13m hit.
I don't like the idea of using another first round pick on a WR. We've got to focus on the offensive line and give Cam some time to throw. If we do pick up a WR, I hope it's somebody from the free agency that's still fast and has a proven record. 12/1/2014 2:56:18 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
sucks for him. but stewart has been the best back this year. 12/1/2014 2:57:37 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'd take Rex Ryan as coach in a heartbeat. 12/1/2014 9:25:09 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
should be plenty of cheap FA RBs in the offseason, but we really need to shore up the offensive line 12/1/2014 10:46:12 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
OL is definitely the most pressing need.
Can we really do anything about Stewart and DeAngelo this offseason...or is it still more beneficial to the cap to wait till they're contracts are up? 12/2/2014 9:57:42 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
^not really. we're stuck with them for another year. we made sure that we locked down those mediocre running backs when we had the chance! 12/2/2014 10:50:59 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately for RBs I think the NFL has come to the realization that you really only need a serviceable back who can block and pick up yards when you need them. There is really not a ton of difference between the great backs and guys you can pay a lot less so long as you have an oline who can open up the holes. 12/2/2014 11:02:57 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
http://blackandbluereview.com/panthers-quarterback-cam-newton-two-seasons-in-one/
Interesting read on Cam's first 5 games compared to his last 6 games this season. 12/2/2014 11:29:24 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Cason and Jason Williams cut. Bye. 12/2/2014 2:31:44 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah, even acknowledging that the problems along the offensive line would have ruined even the best QB/WRs tandems in the league (which we are far from having) , it gave us our best chance to win. Running the read option with a stable of gimps and olds has no chance at all, while also hindering Cam's development as passer. With our crap offensive line and running backs, we should be running the shotgun out of single or empty back sets 90% of the time. Cam can still be effective as improvisational runner, or on designed runs, but the focus should be throwing the ball down the field. 12/3/2014 11:16:59 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Currently sitting at the #8 pick" |
which is sad because we're def worse than that, I hope we go o line with picks 1-3 to go along with bell and kalil but that depends on other factors12/3/2014 2:05:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
factors like any offensive lineman that doesn't go in the first round is probably going to suck 12/3/2014 2:17:21 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I doubt Rivera's seat is as hot as we all want it to be." |
I thought there was no way he wouldn't start next season as our HC, but that will change if the losing streak continues. Richardson can tolerate multiple seasons of mediocrity, but every time a Panthers team has finished the season as bad as this one looks to, a HC has been fired.12/3/2014 2:50:35 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't care if he's fired or not. Richardson won't bring anyone worth getting excited about. He'll bring in another "Yes" man that won't stand up to him or Gettleman or bring any freshness to the franchise and we'll continue to get more of the same mediocrity and canned non-answers fed to us. I'm over this team for 14/15 12/3/2014 3:07:30 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
great first drive 12/7/2014 1:09:27 PM |
sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
Who the hell was that team on the first drive?! 12/7/2014 1:09:27 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
12/7/2014 1:13:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
this is a very strange start...not the panthers i'm used to seeing. 12/7/2014 1:14:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
TD would've been nice. Cam had Cotchery wide open there. But 10-0 is a great start 12/7/2014 1:20:03 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
12/7/2014 1:22:28 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Obligatory: Fuck Roman Harper 12/7/2014 1:22:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
don't think he was down by contact on that INT but whatever 12/7/2014 1:27:11 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
WHo the hell are these guys?? 12/7/2014 1:30:35 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Look at that gate. Is nothing built well in New Orleans? 12/7/2014 1:31:14 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
I saw no punches 12/7/2014 1:32:29 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
12/7/2014 1:32:52 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, came here to question where this team has been all season. 12/7/2014 1:34:14 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Unarmed Black QB shoved during celebration. #NOjustice 12/7/2014 1:34:17 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
God I hate the saints 12/7/2014 1:34:56 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
and now, at least for the rest of this half, the panthers are going to be right back in the hunt for the playoffs.
Thomas Davis and Jimmy Graham still haven't patched things up I see 12/7/2014 1:37:43 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/12/7/7348639/cam-newton-panthers-saints-fight-brandon-williams-cameron-jordan
12/7/2014 1:40:22 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the saints 12/7/2014 1:42:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
that was a great throw by cam, but kelvin dropped it
and regardless of how good the throw was...3rd and 2 and we go 40 yards down field. for what feels like the 100th time this season
[Edited on December 7, 2014 at 1:44 PM. Reason : spelling] 12/7/2014 1:44:35 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
The cam run on 3rd and short is automatic. Kelvin's hands are the opposite of automatic. 12/7/2014 1:45:23 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully a seasons worth of drops by Kelvin will teach some to not buy whatever the company line is during training camp
all they are are talking points and narrative builders 12/7/2014 1:52:50 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
Josh Norman... 12/7/2014 1:54:27 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
2 drops now on 3rd and 2. one deep by kelvin (still questionable play call, imo) and now tolbert 12/7/2014 2:02:00 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
2 blocked punts, giving up huge yards to nobody punt returners. Fire special teams coach asaps yo 12/7/2014 2:03:10 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
why are we passing on 3rd and 2? 12/7/2014 2:05:03 PM |
sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so FN MAD! We have a quarterback who always gets us first downs on 3 and short and we keep calling pass plays...then we follow that up now twice with punts that get returns of 30 plus. Our special teams is the worst I have ever seen! We might as well have a 6 yard punt clemson game style or go for it on 4th down. The coaches WANT to lose WTF 12/7/2014 2:05:06 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25536 Posts user info edit post |
^^especially with Cam running so well in those situations already today 12/7/2014 2:06:39 PM |