rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Come on people. I'm so tired of hearing the fact that Brown was unarmed. For all Wilson knew, he was charging to try and get his gun again.
Lots of people talking about what he did, but I'm not hearing much about what he should have done. Other than run...someone said the officer should have turned an ran.
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM. Reason : ada] 11/25/2014 9:07:25 PM |
MrGreen All American 2281 Posts user info edit post |
if you ever hear a cop yell "STOP RESISTING" at you but you aren't resisting, you're about to get beaten
if you ever head a cop yell "STOP REACHING FOR MY GUN" at you but you aren't reaching for the gun, you're about to get shot
all those theatrics are for when they play back the dashcam audio during the investigation/grand jury/trial and let that fucking pig go free 11/25/2014 9:18:23 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
I shouldn't say such things
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 9:22 PM. Reason : j] 11/25/2014 9:20:12 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
He's teenager, not a fucking bear. 11/25/2014 9:26:06 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Come on people. I'm so tired of hearing the fact that Brown was unarmed. For all Wilson knew, he was charging to try and get his gun again." |
Wilson most likely knew brown had no gun. The clearest sign is that brown would have used it on wilson, or brown would have used it in the store. Wilson was just pissed brown called him a pussy and said he wouldn't shoot him, while pushing him in the face.
Quote : | "Lots of people talking about what he did, but I'm not hearing much about what he should have done. Other than run...someone said the officer should have turned an ran. " |
We can't say what he should have done, because we don't know what brown actually did. We don't know what wilson actually said to him when he saw him walking on the street, or when he tried to detain him.
If brown actually had arms like hulk hogan and charged like a demon, then of course you'd shoot him.
But we know brown isn't like hulk hogan, and is not a demon.11/25/2014 9:31:13 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
a bear-sized teenager 11/25/2014 9:33:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Come on people. I'm so tired of hearing the fact that Brown was unarmed. For all Wilson knew, he was charging to try and get his gun again." |
how in the world are you unable to see the flaw in that logic?11/25/2014 9:36:47 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Wilson most likely knew brown had no gun. The clearest sign is that brown would have used it on wilson, or brown would have used it in the store. Wilson was just pissed brown called him a pussy and said he wouldn't shoot him, while pushing him in the face." |
Did you mean to say that Wilson most likely knew that Brown was coming for his gun?
If I were to comment on what he should have done, I would say that Wilson should have let him come within taser range, and handled it that way.11/25/2014 9:38:54 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
FACT: Brown was not Hulk Hogan. Brown was not an actual demon. Open your eyes sheeple. FACT: Pizza restaurants were targeted. What shapes do you cut pizza? ??????? !!!!
The signs are all around us. 11/25/2014 9:40:43 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
He didn't have a taser. He only had a baton and pepper spray.
I don't buy that brown was going for wilson's gun. I think when brown dared wilson to shoot him, wilson reached for his gun, and brown reacted by trying to stop him (not a smart thing to do-- but it makes more sense than brown just reaching for his gun to use it). 11/25/2014 9:41:03 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Look, if you can't apprehend a teenager without shooting him dead in the face, then you really shouldn't be a cop. If you sincerely believe that everyone around you is capable of strong-arming your own gun and using it against you, then you really shouldn't be given a weapon.
Maybe Wilson should be a florist, or a babysitter, or a small dog walker, or something. He's not cut-out for law enforcement, because he sounds like kind of a pussy. 11/25/2014 9:44:55 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I won't argue with that. 11/25/2014 9:45:42 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think when brown dared wilson to shoot him, wilson reached for his gun, and brown reacted by trying to stop him (not a smart thing to do-- but it makes more sense than brown just reaching for his gun to use it)." |
The ole Ace Ventura dare backfire.11/25/2014 9:46:08 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ a really big teenager though
not sure there are enough hulk hogans out there to fill our police forces
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 9:47 PM. Reason : .] 11/25/2014 9:46:56 PM |
CuntPunter Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson was WELL coached. It's so fucking obvious.
He was so afraid of Browns power yet his injuries from the assault are nearly non existent. You have to think if he wasn't expecting anything like that to happen that the first blow from such a powerful aggressive beast would have done...something? Other than made it look like he took a nap laying on his side and his face was a little red? 11/25/2014 9:55:00 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
115 lb women deal with teenagers like Brown every goddamn day in America without shooting them in the mouth.
Maybe Wilson should approach people as citizens rather than immediately flexing nuts. 11/25/2014 9:56:42 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that seems like such an obvious hole in wlisons story, yet this point was never addressed during his interview for the grand jury.
Would have been nice if this went to trial so we could actually know (Maybe) what happened...
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 10:12 PM. Reason : ] 11/25/2014 10:12:39 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson found himself outmatched once he realized Brown had reached his next Saiyan form...
11/25/2014 10:14:27 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I've heard Wilson's exact story before. Zimmerman spit out the same load of bullshit. "I was so scared I had no choice but to shoot him twice in the head, he looked like a demon, he was so strong blah blah blah". I'll bet my life big mike didn't spend anytime lifting weights. 11/25/2014 10:17:55 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
At least Zimmerman had the decency to put on a band-aid for his post-scuffle glamour shot. 11/25/2014 10:21:13 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Someone plowed through protestors in Minneapolis. That one lady gets it pretty bad
11/25/2014 10:23:30 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
what an asshole! Hope he gets fined. Pay for her medical bill. 11/25/2014 10:26:43 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
That's grimy. Those protesters were being peaceful too it seems like.
I wonder if the guy was maybe having some kind of emergency, or he was just a horrible human being. 11/25/2014 10:47:05 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
or if he feared for his safety because he had half of his windshield blocked and two people sitting on his hood 11/25/2014 10:49:56 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
I imagine at some point during his drive that was not the case 11/25/2014 10:51:36 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
No one mentioned the fact that wilson could have stayed in his car amd drove away if he felt so much danger. 11/25/2014 11:01:13 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ the video starts with the person plowing through protesters, i doubt they just set up shop on his car...
[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 11:02 PM. Reason : ] 11/25/2014 11:02:06 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Change must come through the barrel of a gun grill of a station wagon. 11/25/2014 11:38:23 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
i haven't been following this, but has anyone posted about the kid/person who was shot dead at the protests? 11/25/2014 11:45:12 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=b493e6c4d31beda32fdaf8e2d&id=73514e334b
Not sure if this is real or means anything, but Twitter riot feed is slow tonight. 11/25/2014 11:56:27 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ it's noteworthy, but it doesn't mean anything in the sense of being from a regulatory authority:
Quote : | "The National Bar Association was founded in 1925 and is the nation's oldest and largest national network of predominantly African-American attorneys and judges" |
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ]11/26/2014 12:01:59 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
so there's zero chance this could become a federal case of the DA could be disbarred? ijw 11/26/2014 12:04:46 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Not based on that, no.
That's just a society/club of lawyers.
Quote : | ""In my midteen innocence, I was simply reaching out to the universe. As for nosy neighbors my rooftop activities looked to them as though I were a heavily armed burglar, ready to rappel down the side of the apartment building in the dark, with my portable assault weapons strapped to my side. One out of tree times I was on the roof, some one would call the police"" |
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ]11/26/2014 12:18:59 AM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
11/26/2014 12:20:10 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-cop-charged-with-assaulting-man-with-baton/article_267e68a7-8496-5663-8c81-a951172a904f.html
So McCulloch charged this cop with a felony for breaking someone's hand. Based on the circumstances, the cop seemed to overstep his bounds.
He didn't file a police report after 4 days, but it took Wilson 10 days to file his report. He didn't tell his supervisor about it, but Wilson never discussed his issue with his supervisor either (although obviously everyone knew about it).
Seems like shooting an unarmed 18 year old, that witnesses say was surrendering warrants a trial, just like hitting a guys hand for no apparent good reason warrants a trial. Wilson must have sucked a lot of dicks to earn this favoritism, or something... 11/26/2014 1:43:21 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
TWW needs more Garfield and Blondie and whatnot, and lewisje is always fucking Doonesbury or Family Circus 11/26/2014 1:59:20 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ppl are actually defending the riots itt? what?" |
the riots didn't even really happen. a few people got out of control and police almost invited them to burn those places down. firefighters didn't bother putting out the flames. This was all to get back at the people, let the protesters look bad and shift the national attention off of them.
Now the whole country is mourning this loss of property.11/26/2014 2:02:56 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
The riots were isolated to Ferguson, there were dozens or more cities across the country with protests, with no riots.
It's still millions of dollars in losses in Ferguson, but they definitely don't characterize the tone of the protests nationwide. 11/26/2014 2:07:54 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone care to take a virtual walk down Flourescent ave? You can see what businesses were torched, there are a LOT in a very concentrated area. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7356937,-90.278033,3a,75y,9.89h,77.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv7SJBCSfxk9Od_3bszpY6g!2e0 11/26/2014 2:11:39 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPUcA7yrErg&feature=youtu.be
lot of truth in that video 11/26/2014 6:35:32 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^^^uh, there were definitely riots in Oakland.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Second-night-of-Bay-Area-protests-over-Ferguson-5918155.php
maybe not as bad as Ferguson, but smalls chunks of the city are trashed. not sure why people are trying to downplay the entire situation in Ferguson and act like what's taken place isn't a big deal either. are y'all disappointed there aren't tons of deaths, or...?
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 7:21 AM. Reason : .] 11/26/2014 7:20:44 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson should have never been a police officer. "felt like a 5 year old holding on to Hulk Hogan" If he really felt that scared of him why didn't he keep his scared ass in his vehicle after the guy took off running?
If the only way you can stop a big, angry, teenager is to double tap him in the head then you shouldn't be a cop. If I was a cop I'd spend time in the gym making sure I'm stronger than the average, fat, American teenager. His lawyers did a great job coaching his story. 11/26/2014 7:37:42 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Again, what would you have done differently? You have a big guy charging at you. Do you stand your ground, try to tackle him and take him down physically, while allowing him within arm's reach of your weapon, which he had already demonstrated he was willing to go for?
Tell me what his other options were. Run? Toss his gun into the car, roll up his sleeves, and prepare for a brawl? Plead to not get tackled?
If he didn't have a taser, maybe the right outcome would have been to pepper spray him. I'm not a cop, so I don't know what the effectiveness of pepper spray is. 11/26/2014 8:23:29 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
Perhaps the most turmoil Tuesday night was in Oakland, California, where vandals smashed the windows of a car dealership and looted several businesses, including a T-Mobile cell phone store.
Some also set bonfires in the city. One row of bonfires stretched across a road, blocking off access." |
Do people just wait for a perceived racial injustice to give them an excuse to go raid the liquor and cell phone stores?11/26/2014 8:41:13 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It's a bit more complicated than that. Part of it is residual anger from the Oscar Grant verdict, part of it is that anarchists come to Oakland whenever there's a protest to spread their message, part of it is that some of the losers from the Occupy movement are still around, part of it is that Oakland's police force is vastly underfunded and the city has a reputation for being soft on crime, and part of it is that Oakland is centrally located in the Bay Area and it makes it easy for people to organize there. 11/26/2014 8:57:47 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know what he could of done differently, I'm just shooting holes in his David vs Goliath story. If he truly though it felt like a 5 year old wrestling Hulk Hogan, the last thing he should have done was get out of his car and chase after Hulk Hogan. This man had no reason to be scared, he had the only weapon there. He had good reason to be scared in the vehicle, but after the suspect disengaged and ran the fear for his life line goes out the window. 11/26/2014 9:04:39 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ nah losing a hockey game or beating Oklahoma in football will suffice.
Riots/looting/destruction are simply opportunists being stupid. It happens every year in all cultures by all races. Do people seriously just forget about pretty much every championship across all Sports??
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM. Reason : X] 11/26/2014 9:12:42 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Darren Wilson is also 6'4... 11/26/2014 9:50:22 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ you're not shooting holes in his story. you have to have facts to do that. instead you're making wild assumptions about something you have no 1st person knowledge of and passing that off as some bullshit hot take that shows how right you are. you're a clown
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 9:52 AM. Reason : .] 11/26/2014 9:52:37 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Julius Hodge is 6'7"
Terry Crews is just 6'3"
ergo, Hodge could whip Crews' ass
I'm 6'1"
so is Laron Landry
I GOT THIS SHIT
[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 10:00 AM. Reason : .] 11/26/2014 9:54:22 AM |