Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I like this on
Quote : | "justinh524 100% American 11684 Posts user info edit post
I'd say Tebow is more similar to Russell than Newton is to Russell, other than them both being black.
But let's get one thing straight, none of them will ever be an elite NFL qb because none of them are very accurate passers. It's pretty rare for QB's to make great strides in accuracy from their college years to their pro careers. Drafting a QB with ~60% completion rate #1 overall is just a bad decision." |
11/23/2015 2:26:52 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
i like this one
Quote : | "DROD900 All American 23518 Posts user info edit post who would you rank above him? Nick Fairley was the clear cut #1 pick for a few weeks, then he dropped. Patrick Peterson is up there now, but do you really want to get a DB as the #1 pick when we have so many other glaring weaknesses?
What a shitty draft to have the #1 pick
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mostly the bolded part. cam newton, von miller, patrick peterson, aj green, julio jones, were all top 10 picks...jj watt was #11 too11/23/2015 2:31:40 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think there's a person here who hasn't said something regrettable about Cam over the years. This was me from like early 2011,
Quote : | "9:51 AM [redacted]: cam to the panthers? 9:54 AM me: fuck no that guy is awful " |
Dude didn't have a lot of believers outside of the Panthers front office. Thank god we're all idiots.
[Edited on November 23, 2015 at 3:19 PM. Reason : .]11/23/2015 3:18:46 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^^But to be fair, having the #1 pick versus the #10 pick in that draft wasn't really a huge drop off talent-wise. If we passed on Newton for AJ Green, JJ Watt, or Patrick Peterson, it's not like we would have landed a bust.
Though I think it played out really nicely for us. 11/23/2015 3:23:55 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
TreeTwista10 might have had the best prediction there. though it may not have taken as long as he thought.
Quote : | "I never thought Tebow would/could be an NFL QB and I still don't
I think Newton can definitely be a good NFL QB, but it might take some time" |
Also:
Quote : | "Cam Newton was 11 for 12 for 100 yards and 5 TDs vs the blitz yesterday" |
per @jjones9
[Edited on November 23, 2015 at 3:33 PM. Reason : stats]11/23/2015 3:32:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Silatolu out for season with torn acl. 11/23/2015 3:43:37 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
i remember floating newton as the #1 pick right after luck decided to go back to school but not as a serious endorsement more as a "fuck it, take the risk"
this also seems to have sort of worked out
Quote : | "theres a good chance palmer is finished
i'd take him anyway" |
11/23/2015 3:53:12 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I'd say Tebow is more similar to Russell than Newton is to Russell, other than them both being black.
But let's get one thing straight, none of them will ever be an elite NFL qb because none of them are very accurate passers. It's pretty rare for QB's to make great strides in accuracy from their college years to their pro careers. Drafting a QB with ~60% completion rate #1 overall is just a bad decision."" |
My comparison of Tebow to Jamarcus Russell rather than Newton to Russell was pretty great. Because they both suck. YOU PEOPLE were comparing Newton to Jamarcus Russell because you're racist.
And Cam has been the ONE exception to the rule on inaccurate QBs. (Not that he's gotten more accurate, but that he's actually been successful in the NFL while still being inaccurate as a passer.)11/23/2015 4:03:04 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
well newton is like tebow if tebow could throw the ball, sure
[Edited on November 23, 2015 at 4:11 PM. Reason : actually not what you said at all but w/e] 11/23/2015 4:09:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Cam has been the ONE exception to the rule on inaccurate QBs." |
what about Andrew "My Career Completion % is Lower Than Newton's" Luck?11/23/2015 4:17:00 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
luck sucks 11/23/2015 4:21:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^But to be fair, having the #1 pick versus the #10 pick in that draft wasn't really a huge drop off talent-wise. If we passed on Newton for AJ Green, JJ Watt, or Patrick Peterson, it's not like we would have landed a bust.
Though I think it played out really nicely for us." |
yeah i think that was my point...obviously you have to take into account team needs and stuff (and hindsight is 20/20 of course) but it seemed like that post was saying "we're unlucky to be picking #1 this year, guess we'll settle for whoever" when in reality most any of those guys would've been great picks at #1. although QB was such an obvious need, there's no point in second guessing the pick at all.11/23/2015 5:07:50 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think there's a person here who hasn't said something regrettable about Cam over the years." |
'sup?
I know I haven't11/23/2015 5:09:34 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Completion % /= Accuracy. There's a lot more that goes into that number than how accurate of a passer the QB is. If you're throwing mostly short-intermediate passes and checkdowns, then your completion % is going to be better than the QB who's bombing it deep all the time. Cam is behind only Carson Palmer in air yards per attempt, and neither of them have a completion % in the top half of league. Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins and Sam Bradford are near the bottom in AY/A but have a much higher completion %. Y'all watched the games, no one in their right mind would say Cousins or Bradford are more accurate throwers than Cam. 11/23/2015 5:10:39 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
MVP
11/23/2015 5:29:17 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
^^regardless of completion percentage, cam is not an accurate QB. he still routinely sails balls over the heads of everyone. it's my biggest gripe with him.
that and he stole/possessed a stolen laptop one time when he was like 19. 11/23/2015 5:43:59 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think it's fair to say that accuracy is something newton has struggled with. he's overthrown WRs throughout his career. the last few weeks he has been pretty damn accurate, but for his career his accuracy has been inconsistent. the beauty of his game is that you'll take his inconsistent accuracy because he can make up for it with his legs. and when he is accurate, it's a thing of beauty to watch him hit shitty ass WRs in stride. 11/23/2015 5:55:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
11/23/2015 8:29:26 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
yeah we seem to have one of the most non screesn/vertical passing games in the league but sometimes I also think the short, touch pass is the one thing Cam just can't make
I've always thought Cam's best throw was the mid field 15-20 yard bullet pass, but he's doing nailing the long vertical passes this yr too
[Edited on November 23, 2015 at 8:32 PM. Reason : k] 11/23/2015 8:29:37 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Cam only has one speed on his passes. Throwing mid to deep probably helps him in that respect 11/23/2015 8:34:39 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, it's a conscious decision by the coaching staff to limit his short throws. Which is good, because he would fail miserably in an offense that relied on them. 11/23/2015 8:38:43 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Be seeing ya Frank Alexander. 11/24/2015 4:05:12 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've been a devoted Panthers fan since moving to NC in 1998. I live, breathe, eat, and drink the Panthers. And I'd like to think I'm a pretty reasonable guy.
But if they draft "Scam Newton" -- I'm done. You won't find me at a game, sports bar, watching on Fox, or sporting a Panthers jersey until they release him.
This is Carolina. Not New York, not Chicago, not Dallas. This is a community where character counts. It's a community whose first love is NCAA basketball -- and who is well represented first and foremost by Davidson College, but also by UNC and Duke. This community will not accept an NCAA-cheat, with the smug, arrogant defiance Scam displayed during his press conference in late 2010.
We can do better." |
I bet this guy is a Cam Newton #1 fanboy now.11/24/2015 4:20:31 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
11/24/2015 4:22:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
No wonder TreeTwista10 loves the Panthers, they're a bunch of fucking potheads. 11/24/2015 4:32:17 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^^So, two turkeys fight each other for who gets to eat another turkey? That's sick. 11/24/2015 5:17:38 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Who all is going to the game Thursday? 11/24/2015 5:59:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not hardcore enough to travel to Dallas on Thanksgiving 11/24/2015 6:14:18 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
It sucks that this game is at Jerry's house. That fucker gets all the publicity. I suppose they'll switch it up next year with the NFC East. 11/24/2015 10:26:26 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
WHERE. THE. FUCK. CAN. I. BUY. ONE. OF. THOSE. SHIRTS
[Edited on November 24, 2015 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2015 10:35:34 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^ isnt all that publicity in game that the Panthers are involved in a good thing? 11/24/2015 10:58:23 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Ton of panthers fans in Dallas today 11/26/2015 9:52:02 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udHmx3H6bi8 11/26/2015 10:10:48 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "suppose they'll switch it up next year with the NFC East." |
wat11/26/2015 11:01:22 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
fuck the cowgirls
happy thanksgiving 11/26/2015 11:02:08 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Save a horse ride a cowboy as they say guys! Happy turkey Day!! 11/26/2015 3:24:44 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Man, the Eagles suck. And, guys, you got like thirty more minutes for naps! 11/26/2015 3:57:09 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
With the Skins out of the way...this is part two of making NC our state. 11/26/2015 4:00:20 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
Any streams for this? 11/26/2015 4:31:58 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
Nice fucking start!! 11/26/2015 4:34:23 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
If we could stop getting penalties on offense, that would be great. 11/26/2015 5:37:38 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
FULLY ERECT 11/26/2015 6:03:48 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I think it would be pretty sweet if Greg Hardy did the right thing and beat up Luke Bryan. 11/26/2015 6:19:17 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit that was some of the worst blocking i've ever seen in my football life 11/26/2015 6:24:49 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
where were you when the QB killaz ended Romo's career? 11/26/2015 7:02:05 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
jordanfromnj:
Quote : | "I still like the Cowboys oin Thursday." |
Wrong about your "skins" on Sunday and wrong about this week too. Calling you out right here for making claims and being DEAD wrong. You had plenty to say and god knows if your prediction came true you would be insufferable but you don't have shit to say now. Eat your crow!11/26/2015 7:21:30 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think it would be pretty sweet if Greg Hardy did the right thing and beat up Luke Bryan." |
i just peed a little.11/26/2015 7:24:50 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
oh shit ncwolfpack is pissed 11/26/2015 7:31:02 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
Not really. I did the same to UJustWait15 after he was talking so much. I just don't like letting these people off the hook so easily. 11/26/2015 7:39:07 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
11/26/2015 7:47:38 PM |