My mistake. You know what I was referring to, not me.

5/16/2020 1:36:08 AM

Why does Michelle Obama keep getting thrown around as an ideal candidate? Why does a First Lady qualify as a good President? Because she'd know where stuff is in the White House? Definitely would be better than Trump, but are these really the best ideas America has? Why do folks like the idea of political dynasties? We had two Bushes and tried for three. We tried for two Clintons. Come on.

5/16/2020 1:41:55 AM

If you fail to effectively present your thoughts that's on you

Nobody ever names a group but means a significant minority of that group.

"the people of Alabama prefer Hilary Clinton!"

5/16/2020 1:42:18 AM

^^ seriously, it sends a horrible message to young women. if you get knocked up by the right man one day you can be president! fuck that



[Edited on May 16, 2020 at 6:53 AM. Reason : s]

5/16/2020 6:53:13 AM

lolwtfbbq???

5/16/2020 9:16:56 AM

some people forgetting this is chit chat and need to return to tsb, imo.

5/16/2020 10:46:24 AM

^attn users w <1000 posts

5/16/2020 12:21:11 PM

because that matters

5/16/2020 6:44:08 PM

Seems like it does if you see a 35 page thread and say "oh I know I'll ask them to leave!"

5/16/2020 7:13:14 PM

my point is chit chat isnt serious bro

5/16/2020 8:58:33 PM

Make sure to comment that on every serious chit chat thread

5/16/2020 9:19:27 PM

I will if NyM writes me a short essay about how unhelpful I was.

5/17/2020 7:44:00 AM

To be fair, a reminder that this is Chit Chat for the 20 users still on this archaic message board was pretty useful.

5/17/2020 1:41:47 PM

Don't let them gaslight you, utowncha.

5/17/2020 1:58:45 PM

^relax bro chit chat isn't serious

5/17/2020 2:20:04 PM

Chill y'all

5/17/2020 2:42:36 PM

Chit Chat is the only semi-active section on this site, so it becomes a catch-all. The other sections are purely for archival purposes.

5/17/2020 3:49:09 PM

https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits

6/1/2020 8:28:38 AM

It's hard to imagine a worse cuck president than what we have now.

6/1/2020 8:48:09 AM

GWB looking pretty good right now.

6/1/2020 8:56:04 AM

No he isnt

6/1/2020 9:54:53 AM

It's all relative.

Trump is the best rehabilitation for GWB's legacy among those enduring both presidencies that he could ever hope for.

6/1/2020 10:53:13 AM

Trump will need 4 more years or a 2nd covid wave to even approach GWBs body count for Iraq alone. His legacy of entrenching presidential power also helps along much of what Trump can get away with.

Not to mention Samuel Alito

6/1/2020 11:01:41 AM

You're going too deep in your analysis.

6/1/2020 11:04:12 AM

Well if somebody offered today to replace Trump with GWB, I'm not sure I would take it. Especially since GWB would likely face an easier reelection.

If you told me I could have 4 more years of one or the other, I'd have to think pretty hard.

6/1/2020 11:06:19 AM

But that's exactly the binary choice I had in mind when I made my original statement.

Will be curious about whether you come to a decision.

6/1/2020 11:07:54 AM

I think the difference is GWB is far more effective in getting things done, things I usually consider bad, whereas as Trump is semi successful at that but also an agent of chaos. It's two bad choices and I'd rather have neither. How's that for a cop out?

6/1/2020 11:14:39 AM

As cop-outs go, that's an excellent one. Essentially total.

6/1/2020 11:37:38 AM

is trump a war criminal yet

6/1/2020 12:13:51 PM

Dude, that was brown people.

6/1/2020 12:28:11 PM

It's basically like you're getting strangled then the person stops and instead starts stabbing you while saying "bet you miss being strangled huh"

6/1/2020 12:53:48 PM

James Buchanan looking pretty good right now.

6/1/2020 12:57:54 PM

This is what the US needs

Black Lives Matter activists were invited on stage at a pro-Trump rally

https://www.facebook.com/908009612563863/videos/3786860994678696/

6/1/2020 4:25:19 PM

^feel good videos like that are just that...makes you feel good and nothing more. I’d be surprised if that accomplished anything. There’s people yelling the tired trope “what about black on black crime?!” towards the end of the video. At best, some people walk away from that thinking “those were some of the good ones” instead of actually changing their world view. They’ve been told for years that the media is the enemy, that protestors and paid antifa members, that cops are all heroes, that BLM is a radical and non-peaceful group. That interaction probably won’t change their greater view of Trump, BLM, police brutality, etc.

That video is cool and all. But that isn’t what America needs imo. I mean, those interactions aren’t bad. But it isn’t solving anything when the president continues to promote hatred and racism and stoke the flames and police brutality continues to go unchecked.

[Edited on June 1, 2020 at 8:59 PM. Reason : A]

6/1/2020 8:56:38 PM

Get your antifa membership card...

https://www.joinantifa.org/

6/2/2020 3:02:16 AM

6/2/2020 3:18:48 AM

Quote :

"This is what the US needs"

You can keep that BS to yourself dude. All your US posts are in the variety of "Fuck the US" and "The US is terrible" so I give 0 shits about your prescription to fix something you rabidly hate [but have clearly benefitted from].

6/2/2020 6:57:24 AM

OEPII1, We are definitely right in the middle of amateur hour when it comes to the person in charge. Most of us agree. We really don't need your commentary on how shitty things are. A lot of folks can just look right outside their windows and see.

I couldn't think of a worse combination of factors to creep up on someone so unprepared for the two biggest issues we're facing right now. Trump ran on fixing the economy, and whether anything he did directly impacted it or not, the economy was humming along before COVID-19. But he's a one-trick pony.

There are so many ways I could imagine just about anyone else doing a much better job and quelling the unrest that's going on right now. And Trump is doing the absolute opposite of what I think he should be doing. It looks like there are quite a few Republicans in DC that feel the same way I do.

6/2/2020 8:14:35 AM

^is voting for trump but wants to stay frans

-my entire redneck facebook

6/2/2020 9:23:15 AM

Quote :

" It looks like there are quite a few Republicans in DC that feel the same way I do"

Are there actually? There’s always been a segment of the GOP that will occasionally call out Trump’s worst offenses while continuing to support and push his agenda and take no real steps to separate themselves from Trump.

6/2/2020 9:27:06 AM

exactly. ive called rumfel naive before but thats actually probably wrong. he likes to muse about liberal hypotheticals thinking it makes him look good here (love me frands).

Then every once in awhile he posts something super right-wing / offensive (his true colors) .... wash & repeat.

[Edited on June 2, 2020 at 9:32 AM. Reason : i would love being proven wrong.. i dont think hes evil]

LAPD Union attorney Marla Brown says protesters should be shot.

"Its no wonder the black community never improves its lot. No responsibility. No consequences. At this point they deserve the result."

"Let CVS leave the neighborhood. Along with Whole Foods and every other quality business. And then watch these sand thugs complain about no businesses in the area."

SoCalMAB on twitter? Please let this be fake.

[Edited on June 2, 2020 at 9:35 AM. Reason : EDIT AGAIN]

6/2/2020 9:31:10 AM

^that last bit is (relatively) old, USC already distance themselves
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-06-01/usc-cuts-ties-booster-tweets-protesters-should-be-shot-george-floyd?

And I don't think rjr posts things offensive. I think he is genuinely trying but he has a lifetime of thinking one way so it will take some time to move the other way.

6/2/2020 9:51:26 AM

THis should be posted over and over again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

Quote :

"James Mattis, the esteemed Marine general who resigned as secretary of defense in December 2018 to protest Donald Trump’s Syria policy, has, ever since, kept studiously silent about Trump’s performance as president. But he has now broken his silence, writing an extraordinary broadside in which he denounces the president for dividing the nation, and accuses him of ordering the U.S. military to violate the constitutional rights of American citizens."

Quote :

" In Union There Is Strength I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation. When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside. We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them. James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law. Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics. Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children. We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite. Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad. "

6/4/2020 12:03:00 PM

im asking because i genuinely dont know. what were liberals opinions of mattis when he was secdef?

6/4/2020 12:07:04 PM

I don't really know/remember. I don't think many "liberals" knew much about him, like many generals. I think he was at least often seen as an "adult in the room", like John Kelly.

[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2020 12:08:06 PM

i was only wondering because even though i agree with his statement this seems like the whole "george bush is cool now" thing, which is super annoying.

6/4/2020 12:08:52 PM

war criminal

6/4/2020 12:12:42 PM

I was a Marine so I know about him. I am also a liberal. I was like "why the fuck is Mad Dog going to work for that idiot?"

But yes, adults in the room is good so ok.

Now I applaud him for coming forward with that statement. Hopefully more to come from others. Hell put the guy on TV that would probably be powerful.

[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 12:17 PM. Reason : "his statement this seems like the whole "george bush is cool now" thing" how so?]

6/4/2020 12:14:59 PM

^
this was under obama

https://time.com/3826460/ferguson-national-guard-enemy-forces/

here's a history of troops being called in against our own citizens

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-national-guard-deployments-timeline-htmlstory.html

[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 12:20 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2020 12:20:06 PM

Quote :

"his statement this seems like the whole "george bush is cool now" thing" how so?"

BC it's better to speak up now than never I guess, but he tacitly endorsed all of Trump's other criminal actions and horrible policies. He's a hawk that wants us at war with Iran and wanted to give more support to Saudi Arabia in the war against Yemen.

6/4/2020 1:12:40 PM