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"for as much shit as you all talk about PP, there are quite a few of you that practically live on that board for information..."

Pack Pride articles are a great source of information. Pack Pride message boards are not.

5/1/2012 4:21:50 PM

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"what does that have to do with anything?"

I'm trying to figure out why you're saying that the rule that ernie posted doesn't apply to recruits who have signed an LOI.

5/1/2012 4:24:59 PM

well because:

1) they aren't enrolled students
2) they haven't had any financial aid from the school

you aren't a transfer if you've never enrolled at the school.

5/1/2012 4:27:58 PM

Yeah, signing that LOI makes you a student-athlete

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"What is the National Letter of Intent (NLI)? The NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution A prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters). The institution agrees to provide athletics financial aid for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters). Basic penalty for not fulfilling the NLI agreement: A student-"

'

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli

Signing an LOI would also satisfy the other conditions in the ACC transfer rules

5/1/2012 4:28:40 PM

Justin is correct. They aren't transfers because they haven't enrolled. The transfer rules don't apply.

However, the ACC has a rule that once a player signs a LOI to one ACC school, he has to sit out a year and lose a year of eligibility if he reneges and signs with another ACC school.

5/1/2012 4:32:05 PM

^^

no. i don't know what else to tell you.

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ^]

5/1/2012 4:32:07 PM

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"Justin is correct. "

Quote :

" i'm pretty sure the conference has a rule requiring transfers to sit an extra year if they go to another conference school. there is nothing of the sort for recruits."

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" the ACC has a rule that once a player signs a LOI to one ACC school, he has to sit out a year and lose a year of eligibility if he reneges and signs with another ACC school."

wat

5/1/2012 4:35:17 PM

So an incoming freshmen would only have 3 eligible years if he went to a school other than the one he originally signed the LOI with if we played that following season?


wait, what

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : that doesn't make sense]

5/1/2012 4:35:40 PM

clear as mud

5/1/2012 4:37:12 PM

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"An individual who signs a valid National Letter of Intent with an ACC institution and does not satisfy the one-year attendance requirement or the Junior College Graduation provision of the National Letter of Intent may not represent another ACC institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until the individual has completed one (1) full academic years of residence at the latter ACC institution and shall be charged with the loss of one (1) season of eligibility in all sports. An individual receiving a mutual release per Item 5 of the National Letter of Intent may not represent another ACC institution in intercollegiate athletics competition until the individual has completed one full academic year at the latter ACC institution and shall be charged with the loss of one season of eligibility in all sports. Waivers of the ACC rule must demonstrate objective evidence that proves the student-athlete’s extraordinary personal hardship merits a waiver of the normal application of the policy. These waivers may be considered by the ACC faculty athletics representatives, acting as a committee of the whole, only after all appeals to the National Letter of Intent Steering Committee and the National Letter of Intent Appeals Committee have been processed. (Revised: April 2007)"

Ok so yeah the ACC has the rule for this, I was thinking that if you got an unconditional release you could play immediately, but not in the ACC.

5/1/2012 4:37:42 PM

I have a shit ton of posts

Listen to me

5/1/2012 4:38:33 PM

okay, you sit out a year AND you lose a year.

Yeah, don't see any of those transfers happening.

5/1/2012 4:41:52 PM

so justin is wrong?

5/1/2012 4:42:06 PM

Justin was right that transfer rules have zero to do with Letters of Intent. Ernie was wrong.

Re: Julius Randle, it would be an absolute coup if we signed him, considering that he has been Roy's to target for well over a year now. Tarheel fans believe it's their birthright to snatch up the top highschool talent in-state and otherwise. Even when Gott pulled in Warren, Heel fans claimed that Roy had pulled his offer after they signed Brice Johnson.

Gottfried grabbing Randle would shatter the notion that we cannot recruit head-to-head with UNC, and signal a shift in the balance of power in the Triangle.

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM. Reason : 2]

5/1/2012 4:42:21 PM

I don't care at all that he's being recruited by Roy

Of all the goofy stupid graffiti typography recruit videos I've seen, Randle's is the first that gave me a legit basketball boner. He is for real.

5/1/2012 4:45:05 PM

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"Justin was right that transfer rules have zero to do with Letters of Intent. Ernie was wrong. "

message boards are hilarious. doesn't the quote above basically say that a recruit being released from his loi can't attend another acc school unless he sits out one year? and he loses a year of eligibility?

5/1/2012 4:47:08 PM

We were both right

Except for justin, he was wrong

5/1/2012 4:48:29 PM

Well, those consequences are determined on a conference-by-conference basis, it seems.

5/1/2012 4:49:19 PM

but we're an acc school. so that's what's important.

5/1/2012 4:50:34 PM

Bullet, you're out of your element.

ACC transfer rules say that a player has to sit out 2 years if he transfers between ACC schools. Ernie was arguing that VT's signed recruits fall under this transfer rule; they don't.

5/1/2012 4:51:34 PM

Time to head to the SEC

5/1/2012 4:52:42 PM

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"ACC transfer rules say that a player has to sit out 2 years if he transfers between ACC schools. "

I did not argue this

I question your authority to determine a winner

5/1/2012 4:54:27 PM

5/1/2012 4:54:34 PM

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"ACC transfer rules say that a player has to sit out 2 years if he transfers between ACC schools."

I didn't see that as part of the debate. Maybe it's you that's out of your element? Basically, I was wondering if there was any chance that the VT guy would transfer to NC State. It looks like he'd have to be dumb to consider that. That's all I wanted to know.


[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ]

5/1/2012 4:56:54 PM

Ernie was quoting the text of the transfer rule, not the LOI rule. That was my only point. Nevertheless, splitting hairs...

Suffice it to say that there are 2 rules, and Harrell absolutely gets ensnared in 1. He's not coming here.

[Edited on May 1, 2012 at 4:59 PM. Reason : 2]

5/1/2012 4:57:24 PM

kate just left, she got bored

and wanted some wood

5/1/2012 4:57:40 PM

^^
Which was my original point that started this bullshit.

5/1/2012 4:58:35 PM

lol we spent 3-4 posts establishing the answer and 50 posts arguing about who was right/wrong

5/1/2012 4:59:38 PM

that's not how i see it

5/1/2012 5:11:15 PM

Just because.

5/1/2012 5:11:46 PM

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""That's one of my best friends," Randle stated. "He's a really good person. He cares about me."

He's clearly going to UNC

5/1/2012 5:43:13 PM

5/1/2012 6:17:11 PM

Quote :

"We were both right Except for justin, he was wrong"

5/1/2012 7:30:46 PM

^^badass alert

5/1/2012 8:50:07 PM

5/2/2012 7:33:17 AM

today is amile's birthday, so i bet he announces Friday!

5/2/2012 9:35:20 AM

Alright Amile, plenty of PT available at NCSU and we were after you before Duke.

Tell K to fuck off.

5/2/2012 11:13:22 AM

i've said this before, and duke has since won a national title... but things aren't looking super great at duke right now.

5/2/2012 11:14:41 AM

Success is fleeting. Duke isn't what it once no matter that title. Really since K got burned nearly by Maggette he changed his recruiting ways.

Anyway, we need able bodies desperately now down low if Tyler Harris news is true.

5/2/2012 11:23:30 AM

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"Anyway, we need able bodies desperately now down low if Tyler Harris news is true."

Oh, we're doing that?

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : oic]

5/2/2012 11:47:41 AM

looks like TJ Warren will be getting plenty of pt with harris gone

5/2/2012 11:51:11 AM

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"Rodney Purvis ? @TylerHarris34 bro u leavin ?"

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"Tyler Harris ? @rpurvis_0 yea im leaving"

those are real tweets. and this is really bad news

5/2/2012 11:53:36 AM

it's not really bad news. just bad news.

5/2/2012 11:54:28 AM

Yeah his dad said it was official. Basically all stemming from PT, pretty much wanted Harris starting ASAP. Which is short-sighted since he'll have to sit out next year anyway and by then he'd have had a chance to take Leslie's spot.

Oh well, perhaps now Jefferson gives us even stronger consideration since he'll have a good shot to be first off the bench for Howell and Leslie. And with the way we pick up fouls, that's a lot of PT.

Amazing how after such a strong season, we're still losing players left and right to transfers. Painter I understood, this one is a bit of a head-scratcher.

5/2/2012 11:56:41 AM

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"it's not really bad news. just bad news."

no, its really bad news. you can leave the italics out though

5/2/2012 11:58:19 AM

The head scratching part is the timing. I could understand if he transferred if we had gotten amile or young but that hasn't happened. Maybe they thought CJ would renege on his position of returning and now that the draft deadline is officially past he decided to leave.

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"Amazing how after such a strong season, we're still losing players left and right to transfers"

Having a good or bad season doesn't have much to do with it. It's usually players realizing they aren't as good as they thought and not happy with playing time.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM. Reason : .]

5/2/2012 12:03:49 PM

maybe he had to find somewhere to go first

5/2/2012 12:04:14 PM

I don't think we let him go without a Jefferson commitment, which I expect by the end of the week. Please.

5/2/2012 12:04:15 PM

Huh?

Even Bo Ryan thinks that's absurd.

5/2/2012 12:05:16 PM

Today we are all Peter Gunz

5/2/2012 12:09:25 PM