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Who Is Really Behind 911? - A Damning Chronology
http://suspex.blogspot.com/2005/10/whos-really-behind-911.html

10/31/2005 9:12:56 AM

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So why isn't there any damning evidence to go along with the damning allegations?

10/31/2005 12:01:13 PM

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dunno if you posted something to answer this, but:

I'd think a single plane in the pentagon would be more than enough cause to go to war.

why the extra two?

10/31/2005 12:09:42 PM

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http://www.rense.com/general68/mit.htm

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"Government-funded think tank MIT (Morons In Training) Panel hypothesized that the twin towers fell as the governement says. Case closed.

[...]

Immediately after 911, a number of structural engineers gathered at the government-funded institute of MIT and - surprise, surprise - affirmed the government version of events about 911. "The main culprits in bringing the famously lofty buildings down, they concluded, were the two intensely hot infernos," summarized Scientific American writer, Steve Ashley.

"The World Trade Center was never designed for the massive explosions nor the intense jet fuel fires that came next - a key design omission," according to Eduardo Kausel, M.I.T. professor of civil and environmental engineering and panel member. The towers collapsed, allegedly, after the kerosene jet fuel fire weakened high tensile steel.

These "scientific" conclusions then appeared in the Scientific American magazine: Science & Technology at Scientific American, "When the Twin Towers Fell".

Unfortunately, little of the structural steel in the WTC was examined, however, by the learned structural engineers. Beams and girders were instead shipped overseas for hasty recycling. Nor did any structural engineer comment on actual photos of the alleged "inferno."


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"Given the lack of firm conclusions regarding how the collapses occurred, (since all the evidence was conveniently destroyed) the M.I.T. panel participants asked their audience to consider various theories they put forth." In short, they admitted, after expending hours of hot air, that they didn,t know what-the-hell happened!

So instead of applying hard science, they applied theory. Since their government had hastily carted off all the factual, hard evidence that might have conflicted with "scientific" theory, they drew conclusions based on conjecture! "



[Edited on November 8, 2005 at 11:08 AM. Reason : 2]

11/8/2005 11:06:49 AM

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i dont see anything there that says the government did it
maybe thats why you didnt bold anything except the title

11/8/2005 11:11:13 AM

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Daryl Bradford Smith interviews Eric Hufschmid: Author of important 9-11 book speaks out on the Israeli connections to the 9-11 disaster
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsHufschmid.html

Audio at link.

11/8/2005 1:55:52 PM

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sure most of you have seen this already..but if not,

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

crazy huh?

11/8/2005 5:11:04 PM

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holy fuck, go read the past 30 pages about this b4 posted this shit again.

11/8/2005 5:13:10 PM

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yeah really neat
until you use your fucking brain dipshit

11/8/2005 5:27:33 PM

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when the fuck did i take a stand in the video. i never said i believed it. asshole.

11/9/2005 12:23:48 AM

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Don't let these angry dupes pressure you into buying the official story. Use your brain and think for yourself. And think about it. Why are the proponents of the official story so mad and eager to curse you out? If they're right, why the need for all the name-calling and hatred? Why not just be calm if they know the evidence supports them? Maybe because the evidence doesn't support them. They use peer pressure and name-calling in order to make you stop considering and thinking about the issue.

The Pentagon issue is just one of dozens of issues that throw up red flags about the falsity of the official line on 9/11. I think it is one of the issues deserving less focus, because others are more persuasive. Nevertheless, I don't believe the official story on what happened at the Pentagon. The damage to the Pentagon was not consistent with a Boeing 757 crashing into it.

The government confiscated videos that captured the event on tape, and has never released them. It then later released 5 frames of a video from a security camera supposedly showing the airliner that hit the Pentagon, but which actually show no such thing. The Pilot the government says was flying the 757, Hani Hanjour, was a terrible pilot who could hardly even fly a Cesna, let alone a 757 with "military" precision (as the aircraft that hit the Pentagon executed...eg, making a 270 degree bank to towards the Pentagon, etc.). Due to these manuevers, experienced flight controllers and pilots believe that the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was not a 757 at all because a 757 cannot be flown in that manner. Then, we also have eyewitnesses that say they saw a plane much smaller and different than a 757. This is just some of the evidence against the official story.


[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 8:52 AM. Reason : 4]

11/9/2005 8:41:27 AM

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What happened to the dead folks aboard that plane that crashed into the Pentagon? That's right, the government fired upon the pentagon and then took a 757 out of the air and detained all the passengers in GUANTANAMO BAY!

Read what I found at:

http://www.geocities.com/Cloud229/Conspiracy/FictionEssayForSchool.html

11/9/2005 9:20:33 AM

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i dont think the government fired anything at itself. i believe that they just didnt want to tell america that they were being attacked with missiles or whatever happened. which i dont think is a bad idea. Can we really handle the truth?

[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 9:52 AM. Reason : we as in the entire US population.]

11/9/2005 9:51:40 AM

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^^^ Everything that you just said about the pentagon has been refuted at some point in this thread.

Heaven forbid that you actually stop to consider the issue.

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"i believe that they just didnt want to tell america that they were being attacked with missiles or whatever happened."


Have you seen the video of the passenger plane shaped missiles slamming into the World Trade Center?

From the bottom of page 28:

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"OK, I only read about half of this thread, but listen up. I know for a fact that a plane hit the pentagon becasue I saw it. With my own eyes.
I was on my way to DC with my parents on the morning of September 11. I took the week off of school and after spending Monday night in Richmond, we were headed up to see the sites in DC. We were coming up on washington and were almost to the point where the pentagon is visable on the left. I was driving and my dad was in the passenger seat. All of a sudden we both see a plane coming from the right and behind us, though we hadn't heard it apporach. National Airport is in the direction that the plane was flying, but this plane was flying low and fast. It crossed our path and disappeared for about 2 seconds before we saw a flash of light and heard what sounded like a muffled firework. A few seconds later, we saw a large plume of smoke coming from where the plane had been headed. Just then we came around the bend and saw the building on fire. Fucking scary as shit. We pulled over on the side of the road, as did some of the other drivers, to watch and talk to the other people who had seen it, but about 5 minutes later a bunch of cops came through running everybody out.
So yeah, it was a plane. End of thread."

11/9/2005 1:48:29 PM

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"Everything that you just said about the pentagon has been refuted at some point in this thread."


No. Just a lot of pathetic ranting from you and a few others.

11/9/2005 1:52:22 PM

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"So yeah, it was a plane. End of thread."


you were placed by the government there to lie to us on the wolfweb, weren't you?

[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 1:54 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2005 1:53:52 PM

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"They use peer pressure and name-calling in order to make you stop considering and thinking about the issue."


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"Just a lot of pathetic ranting from you and a few others."


You're full of it, little buddy.

11/9/2005 2:14:57 PM

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sometimes i kinda wish he was right
but only because it would mean theres a good chance the government would take him out

11/9/2005 2:30:45 PM

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hahahahahaha

11/9/2005 2:33:34 PM

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HUGE SMOKING GUN EVIDENCE OF CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF TWIN TOWERS:

Here is the testimony of Captain Karin Deshore of emergency medical services:

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""Somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building.

I went inside and told everybody that the other building or there was an explosion occuring up there and I said I think we have another major explosion. I don't know if we are all going to be safe here."


Go here and read the transcript:

http://sfgate.com/gate/pictures/2005/09/10/ga_karin_deshore.pdf (see page 15 of PDF file for above quote)

READ THAT QUOTE! "Popping sounds" associated with red and organge flashings going around the building? And the witness says "the building had started to explode"? TELL ME THAT THERE WEREN'T EXPLOSIVE CHARGES IN THE TOWERS! TELL ME THAT ISN'T A DESCRIPTION OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!

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http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/10/another-911-smoking-gun.html

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"Another 9/11 Smoking Gun?

Emergency personnel tapes released in August contain the following statements concerning "flashes" in the world trade centers prior to their collapse:
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[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 10:23 AM. Reason : 1]

11/10/2005 10:22:51 AM

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so how comes they dont show up in any of the videos

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 10:29 AM. Reason : and why did it take so long for him to reveal]

11/10/2005 10:29:24 AM

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"Emergency personnel tapes released in August contain the following statements concerning "flashes" in the world trade centers prior to their collapse:
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11/10/2005 10:34:58 AM

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i must admit, i fell for your selective bolding
i completely missed the "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center"... you know... where the plane hit

also i think you should bold the part where he hears a plane fly into the first tower

11/10/2005 11:20:35 AM

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They had a documentary on the guy who runs infowars last night on Trio. I didn't watch it all, but I taped it.

11/10/2005 11:35:16 AM

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Flt 93 And Flt 175 Landed At Or Near Cleveland On 911 -- Says Former Cleveland Mayor
http://www.rense.com/general68/says.htm

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"By Greg Szymanski
11-11-5

State sponsored U.S. media ignores story, leaving 'internet hounds' to smell out the truth behind what really happened to the passengers on the doomed flights.

On the morning of 9/11 a little known Cincinnati television station ran a story saying Flight 93 landed at Cleveland International Airport instead of crashing in Pennsylvania as claimed in the official government story.

Reporters at WCPO Channel 9 quoted then Cleveland Mayor Michael R. White as saying "a Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing due to a bomb threat," the airplane landing safely, moved to a secure location and evacuated. "


I had heard about this before. Very interesting developments.

11/12/2005 10:38:02 AM

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BYU Professor says Explosives brought down WTC towers. OMG! It's a "mainstream" newspaper reporting it too!



http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C635160132%2C00.html

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"Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik
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Thursday, November 10, 2005

The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor.

In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.

In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site http://www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.

Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations.

"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.

As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation.""

11/12/2005 10:44:18 AM

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^SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING MORON

11/12/2005 10:33:23 PM

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OMG THE MORMONS SAID THEY BLEW UP THE TOWERS

AND SOME RANDOM LOCAL NEWSPAPER CONFIRMS IT

in other news, some guy at nc state wants to kill all white people!!!11 stay tuned!

11/13/2005 4:33:32 AM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/121105twintowers.htm

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"Physics Professor Says Science Points To Conclusive Evidence of WTC Controlled Demolition

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | November 12 2005

Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E. Jones is the latest credible individual to come forward and assert that the official story of 9/11 differs wildly from the observable facts.

Jones appeared on The Alex Jones Show on friday to discuss a story that refuses to die and one that has again been pushed to the forefront of alternative research.

Jones made numerous compelling points on the collapse of both the twin towers and Building 7. According to Jones, his scientific peers have been very sympathetic to his research and have agreed with his conclusions."


Do you guys who are supporting the government's ridiculous conspiracy theory realize that if you continue to support and promote the government's official story, one day you will be considered with the likes of flat-earthers?

11/14/2005 9:05:32 AM

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no where in the article does that professor make that claim
and the points alex jones makes are laughable and already refuted

Do you guys who are supporting the whacko nut-job's ridiculous conspiracy theory realize that if you continue to support and promote the whacko nut-job's story, already you are considered with the likes of alex jones?

11/14/2005 9:11:02 AM

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"and the points alex jones makes are laughable and already refuted
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Please. What a joke.

11/14/2005 9:25:35 AM

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BYU Physics Prof. Steven E. Jones' WTC Collapse Paper
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

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"Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?

By Steven E. Jones

Department of Physics and Astronomy

Brigham Young University"

11/14/2005 9:34:14 AM

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I never heard of this, but very interesting. Eyewitnesses reported that missiles were fired at the WTC from the Woolworth Building. Sounds crazy at first, but reports were carried in "mainstream" articles. Many different sources reported on it. And, granted, there may have been many erroneous reports on 9/11, but I think it's hard to imagine multiple sources completely fabricating this if something didn't happen.

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"At one point in the radio dispatches, there is a report of a "possible missile launching from the Woolworth Building," a landmark a few blocks away.

Another person called out: "They're shooting at the Trade Center from the Woolworth Building."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/113055p-102094c.html"



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"The Woolworth Building, itself once the tallest in the world, was cited as a possible source of the attack.

"Can you send somebody over to the Woolworth Building to check the roof?" a Port Authority police officer asked. "There's a possible ... they said it was ... we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building."

"The Woolworth Building?" replied a police operator.

"`Yeah, on ... on Broadway," the officer said.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/2439367/detail.html"


This may seem irrelevant at first, but if nothing else, it demonstrates that a lot of what happened on 9/11 has not been widely reported. The mainstream media has ignored and not reported on vast quantities of information surrounding 9/11. And just because they have ignored something or given it little attention, that doesn't mean those events didn't happen.


Analysis of reports of missiles fired from Woolworth Building:

The Untold Story of the Woolworth Building Incidents on 9-11-01
http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/


DISCLAIMER (not needed for rational people, but hey, there are lots of morons out there): I don't necessarily agree with all the views expressed at the above website.


[Edited on November 14, 2005 at 10:02 AM. Reason : 2]

11/14/2005 9:55:15 AM

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haha that byu thing is a pretty funny read

11/14/2005 10:07:24 AM

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funny? how's that?

11/14/2005 10:13:02 AM

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" The Second Law of Thermodynamics implies that the likelihood of complete and symmetrical collapse due to random fires as in the “official” theory is small, since asymmetrical failure is so much more likely."

i cant be the only one that laughs at that
right after that he uses a bad cliche, its all funny stuff

11/14/2005 10:18:14 AM

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http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/37168.htm

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"BYU Professor Has Plenty of Company in the Academic Community, Including 60 Faculty Members from Two Utah Universities who Concur a Controlled Demolition Most Likely Brought Down the WTC and Further Investigation Is Needed

Professor Steven E. Jones is another in the long line of conservatives in the political and academic world joining the 9/11 truth movement and asking to open up further investigations on the true cause of 9/11.

13 Nov 2005
By Greg Szymanski

The BYU physics professor who believes the WTC collapsed from a controlled demolition isn’t alone in the academic community, as a group of more than 60 colleagues from two universities also agreed with Professor Steven E. Jones’ conclusions.

Jones told the Arctic Beacon Saturday in a telephone conversation from Provo, Utah, he first presented his explosive conclusions at Brigham Young University (BYU) on September 22, to 60 people from the BYU and Utah Valley State College faculties, including professors of Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Geology, Mathematics and Psychology.

After presently scientific arguments in favor of the controlled demolition theory, Jones said everyone in attendance from all backgrounds, conservative and liberal, were in total agreement further investigation was needed.

“I was quite surprised how my conclusions were received,” said Jones
, adding he plans to give two continue telling the public how he came to his startling conclusions essentially ripping apart the official government story that jet fuel brought down the towers, including Building 7.

“In fact, after I researched how Building 7 fell, I am certain there existed pre-positioned explosives to bring down the three buildings.”"


The "official story" LIES on 9/11 are GOING DOWN! You can't stop the truth. It is self evident.

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 9:32 AM. Reason : 1]

11/15/2005 9:31:18 AM

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Where are the video surveillance tapes of any of the passengers of the supposed 9/11 hijacked planes? Zionist-controlled "Dutch" company responsible for airport security at 9/11 related airports.
http://www.rense.com/general68/dutch.htm

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"Why haven't we seen the routine video surveillance tapes of ANY of the passengers alleged to have boarded the ill-fated 9/11 flights at Boston's Logan, Newark's Liberty and Washington's Dulles international airports?

Will two lips in Holland end the 9/11 coverup?

NEW YORK -- Those who have bothered to read the 9/11 skeptics know about the extraordinary "coincidences" that took place that fateful morning. One of them happens to be the lack of routine video surveillance tapes of ANY of the passengers alleged to have boarded the ill-fated flights at Boston's Logan, Newark's Liberty and Washington's Dulles international airports.

The 9/11 Commission simply ignored this issue even though it can be fairly said that not only did the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington originate at these airport gates, but so did the resulting invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Why haven't we seen these video tapes? Why has the Fourth Estate failed to ask, Why haven't we seen these video tapes? Why the conspiracy of silence?

Well, the answer may very well lie in Holland. You see, security at some if not all of these airport gates of 9/11 was in the hands of an American minimum-wage subsidiary of a Dutch corporation called ICTS-International. What is most remarkable about this arrangement is that the Dutch corporation ICTS-International was, as of 9/11, Dutch in name only. An early 2003 check of its web-site showed a Board of Directors consisting entirely of nationals of the Zionist state with the single exception of the Comptroller, who apparently was the nominal Dutchman. And if I need to clue in the clueless, the Zionists were hellbent on finding a reason for the USA to invade Iraq. And it would be fair to say that these Zionists of ICTS-International were the gatekeepers of 9/11 and all that followed, such as the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Interesting, eh?

But the story gets even wilder. Not long after 9/11, the chairman of ICTS, Ezra Harel, whose surname is famous in the annals of the Mossad, died suddenly of a heart attack in his early 50s on his yacht off the coast of Palestine. Talk about not being available for comment!

But that's not the kicker. Hours before the House version of the first Patriot Act went to a vote, "technical corrections" were inserted into the body of the legislation whereby foreign security companies such as ICTS-International would be immune from lawsuits related to the events of 9/11. Talk about not being available for deposition! This "Patriot" act legislative sleight of hand occurred before the inception of the 9/11 Commission when Fearless Leader George W. Bush was still resisting the very IDEA of an investigation into 9/11. Hence, in the face of an institutional cover-up, citizens were denied the possibility of a discovery process which is normally afforded to litigants. Without such discovery process, ICTS-International would never be compelled by a court of law to give testimony and show evidence related to the missing airport video surveillance tapes of 9/11 or any other aspect of security measures in place on 9/11. "

11/15/2005 9:43:06 AM

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/professor_jones_exposes_controlled_demo.htm

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"Professor Jones Exposes Controlled Demoltion of WTC on MSNBC

Tucker Carlson Visibly Shaken, Attemps to Keep Jones from Presenting Evidence


Infowars | November 15, 2005
By Alex Jones

Today I had a chance to see Tucker Carlson attempt to grill BYU Physics Professor Dr. Steven Jones. Carlson implied that the Professor was aiding evil terrorists in the Middle East. He never gave the professor more than 10 seconds without interrupting him.

Professor Jones is to be commended, though, because he made the key point that buildling 7 wasn't hit by an airplane and that molten steel was found in the basements of all three buildings weeks later, when only massive amounts of thermite explosives can cause this effect.

The good news is that the controlled press is on the defensive more and more and is being forced to respond to the alternative media that, in many cases, rivals government-controlled organs or propaganda, and in some cases is now eclipsing them.

I have never seen Tucker Carson so upset. He looked like a scared little boy. His body language screamed inner conflict. You can tell that he knows that it's true and that he fought with his producers to even be able to get Jones on, and that he was supposed to attack Jones. But, whereas in the past, many of the people he attacked he disagreed with, with Jones he feels like Judas."


Video of the interview included at link.

11/15/2005 12:52:41 PM

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10053445/

11/15/2005 3:41:52 PM

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^ Why would the Mainstream Media report this? Aren't they part of the conspiracy?

11/15/2005 3:59:27 PM

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The mainstream media reported the crash at Roswell.

[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 4:25 PM. Reason : iow - OF COURSE they're in on it...it sells papers ]

11/15/2005 4:25:25 PM

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ok here's the problem:

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"Brigham Young University Professor"

11/15/2005 4:32:52 PM

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"He never gave the professor more than 10 seconds without interrupting him."


uh...

Conspiracy?

Or, just your average pundit's conduct during any discussion on cable news?

11/15/2005 4:34:27 PM

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"Why would the Mainstream Media report this? Aren't they part of the conspiracy?"


Use your brain, nitwit. Is the MSM supporting Jones' findings? Of course not. Carlson tried to ridicule him. Carlson suggested that Jones was with the muslim extremists in the interview and suggested that his views were "extreme." They pretend to give time to people of differing views on a variety of subjects, including the JFK assassination for example. But the MSM still tries to make people who doubt the official story on the JFK assassination look like "kooks" (even though 3/4 of Americans don't believe the official story).

Too many people in the public are beginning to question the official story on 9/11. The MSM can only stand by, remain silent, and ignore this movement for so long. Or else they risk looking like they are intentionally ignoring an issue, which will only raise more suspicion in the general public. So, what they have to do is pretend to give the viewpoint some attention, but at the same time try to quickly "discredit" it (ie, smear those people) and prevent future serious discussion of the issue. A similar thing happens with the illegal immigration issue. The government and media is in favor of immigration, but now it has gotten so bad that they must at least give the issue some attention and pretend to care about the problem.

And notice that Jones (and others) are not going to be given enough time in the media to properly explain their view (which is necessary to make a compelling argument and case). He was only given the time to get in a few remarks. Now, the MSM can act as if they have given the issue all the attention it deserves and "discredited" and "debunked" it, and they will largely ignore it for the forseeable future.


[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 4:54 PM. Reason : 5]

11/15/2005 4:48:08 PM

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hey, crazy mcnutbag,

the



you keep seeing really mean these



are in your near future and you will soon be wearing one of these



[Edited on November 15, 2005 at 6:25 PM. Reason : *]

11/15/2005 6:24:58 PM

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"Use your brain, nitwit"


nice opening statement to a paragraph you are trying to explain and convince another person to understand and believe.

11/15/2005 6:27:30 PM

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"Carlson tried to ridicule him. Carlson suggested that Jones was with the muslim extremists in the interview and suggested that his views were "extreme." "


No, he didn't at all. If you would read the actual interview instead of just reading the Alex Jones synopsis, you might actually learn something about the world.

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"They pretend to give time to people of differing views on a variety of subjects, including the JFK assassination for example. But the MSM still tries to make people who doubt the official story on the JFK assassination look like "kooks""


Examples? I've never seen the dreaded "MSM" do that. In fact, I've seen various programs examining the different theories regarding the JFK assassination.

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"So, what they have to do is pretend to give the viewpoint some attention, but at the same time try to quickly "discredit" it (ie, smear those people) and prevent future serious discussion of the issue."


Where exactly did "they" try to discredit annd smear Dr. Jones?

From Alex Jones:

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"Today I had a chance to see Tucker Carlson attempt to grill BYU Physics Professor Dr. Steven Jones. Carlson implied that the Professor was aiding evil terrorists in the Middle East. He never gave the professor more than 10 seconds without interrupting him."


Have you ever seen a news show? They grill everyone. Carlson never implied that Dr. Jones was aiding terrorists. I have never seen anyone on a talk show go more than 10 seconds without being interupted. Of course, you never watch the mainstream (or real) news, so you have no idea.

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"I have never seen Tucker Carson so upset. He looked like a scared little boy."


Tucker Carlson always looks like that. Of course, neither you nor Alex Jones ever watch the news, so how would you know?

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"You can tell that he knows that it's true and that he fought with his producers to even be able to get Jones on, and that he was supposed to attack Jones."


Well, although that strikes me as pure speculation with absolutely no factual support, I'll play along. TUCKER CARLSON IS A PART OF THE NWO!!!

11/15/2005 7:20:06 PM

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"nice opening statement to a paragraph you are trying to explain and convince another person to understand and believe.
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Notice who I was responding to. Not the typical person. Rather, the resident TWW moron, who's apparantly made it part of his life's mission to cyber-stalk me on TWW and try to distract me and spread disinformation. I'm not really trying to convince that moron of anything. He's not open to learning anything or changing his mind. He's here to harass and taunt me. Those responses are to demonstrate his stupidity to anyone else who may be reading these boards. They are intended to explain things to other people...people who have ears to hear and are open to understanding.

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 8:24 AM. Reason : 1]

11/16/2005 8:12:29 AM

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"Rather, the resident TWW moron"


Slandering people who question you? Isn't that a tactic of the NWO? Don't you pitch a hissy fit whenever anyone says something like that to you?

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"who's apparantly made it part of his life's mission to cyber-stalk me on TWW and try to distract me and spread disinformation."


I'm questioning the information that you present as truth. Whats wrong with that.

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"I'm not really trying to convince that moron of anything. He's not open to learning anything or changing his mind."


I read and consider most of the information that you post. However, as a rational person, none of it is very convincing. That is no fault of my own.

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"He's here to harass and taunt me."


I would actually just like an intelligent discussion, but you are obviously incapable of having a discussion with anyone who disagrees with you without resorting to the slander tactics that you claim to despise so much.

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"They are intended to explain things to other people...people who have ears to hear and are open to understanding."


Once again, you make me laugh, little buddy.

11/16/2005 12:59:35 PM

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