beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
they could make $texas writing a tell-all novel
ala OJ
except they didn't do it. 4/12/2007 4:30:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148437 Posts user info edit post |
wow good thing Nifong apologized...now everything is fine! 4/12/2007 4:34:18 PM |
Graham1 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
How do you apologize for doing something intentional (over and over)? Maybe NOW he knows what he did wrong, but it's so different when you didn't mean to cause harm. 4/12/2007 4:59:08 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Where is the outrage? If those three guys were black, you know Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would have been by their side the whole time. 4/12/2007 6:25:31 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^instead, every white person in the triangle area has been. 4/12/2007 7:16:57 PM |
statepkt All American 3592 Posts user info edit post |
^^actually I believe they would have been offering free tuition for life. 4/12/2007 7:49:56 PM |
rs141 Veteran 217 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone watch Nancy Grace? She rips these guys for over a year, then the day they are let off, she has a guest host and today she doesn't even mention it. Who takes her seriously and how is she popular? 4/12/2007 8:11:23 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
they will make nothing selling the story, who the hell would buy it and why? It was pretty much played out in the media..... 4/12/2007 8:30:12 PM |
XXX Veteran 363 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Legal fees for the three indicted players indicted total about $5 million, several team parents said. Even those whose children were never charged say they have spent up to $30,000 each for lawyers to guide them through the investigation." |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/11/AR2007041101898.html
4/12/2007 10:55:09 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
make NiFag pay them back 4/12/2007 10:59:42 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
When are Duke University and the Duke 88 going to apologize to the falsely accused? And I heard the women's basketball team from Rutgers is going on Oprah. When will the falsely accused be invited to appear? 4/12/2007 11:19:34 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
^They won't, Men get shit on remember? 4/12/2007 11:31:50 PM |
iceplaya All American 6661 Posts user info edit post |
honestly i think the naacp, al sharpton, and mr. jackson should be apologizing as well as nifong. but i won't hold my breath since the first 3 can never do any wrong 4/13/2007 1:00:42 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
4/13/2007 3:50:46 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " And I heard the women's basketball team from Rutgers is going on Oprah. When will the falsely accused be invited to appear?" |
How do you know they weren't?
I don't see them WANTING to appear on any talkshows though.
edit: What did the NAACP do btw?
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 3:54 AM. Reason : ]4/13/2007 3:53:24 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How do you know they weren't?" |
good point.
i'm sure any show they appeared on would send ratings through the roof.
i'd bet money that they have been invited for quite a few.
and are probably just holding back pending advance payments on a book deal.4/13/2007 4:34:15 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
instead, every white rational person in the triangle area United States has been.
Quote : | ""I have every confidence that the decision to dismiss all the charges was the correct decision based on that evidence," Nifong said." |
So... why didn't you do it a year ago?
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 7:17 AM. Reason : -]4/13/2007 7:15:18 AM |
Walt Sobchak All American 1189 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^i think they'll sue the shit out of the university" |
not unless they can prove that Duke treated them differently, or used a different protocol, which it looks like they didnt. I think it is Duke's policy to place anyone with a pending criminal investigation on "administrative leave", so no unfair treatment, no real shot at a law suit.4/13/2007 12:05:04 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
4/13/2007 1:00:51 PM |
treznor All American 5218 Posts user info edit post |
^I love it! So true! 4/13/2007 1:07:59 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Seeing Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson on TV makes me even more angered by James Earl Ray. 4/13/2007 1:58:27 PM |
sledgekevlar All American 758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "honestly i think the naacp, al sharpton, and mr. jackson should be apologizing as well as nifong. but i won't hold my breath since the first 3 can never do any wrong" |
so true4/13/2007 4:22:22 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " not unless they can prove that Duke treated them differently, or used a different protocol, which it looks like they didnt. I think it is Duke's policy to place anyone with a pending criminal investigation on "administrative leave", so no unfair treatment, no real shot at a law suit." |
If that is the case, they could always attack the policy itself. Just because something is policy doesn't mean the university is held harmless for following it. This could raise general questions of whether universities can kick students out of school for being charged with a crime.4/13/2007 4:33:55 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When are Duke University and the Duke 88 going to apologize to the falsely accused? And I heard the women's basketball team from Rutgers is going on Oprah. When will the falsely accused be invited to appear?" |
Even if they were invited to appear, that's the last thing these guys should do, IMHO. If they're going to do a civil suit, then do that. That may still have somewhat of a media following with that, but probably more local scale. Then when a verdict is reached it may get some national headlines if they're successful. Otherwise, I think those three should stay out of the media as much as possible now.
[Edited on April 13, 2007 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ]4/13/2007 4:34:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148437 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone watch Nancy Grace? She rips these guys for over a year, then the day they are let off, she has a guest host and today she doesn't even mention it. Who takes her seriously and how is she popular?" |
i can only imagine...she is truly a heartless bitch4/13/2007 5:13:56 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
It would be great if they sued Nifong for defamation of character for calling them "a bunch of hooligans" and smearing their names in the press. Any Dookie officials or professors like Houston Baker should also be sued. I bet that arrogant bastard makes some bank and they should try to get it all. 4/13/2007 5:43:42 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ You're probably right. I was simply noting the apparent disparity in the aftermath of the two situations. 4/13/2007 10:32:21 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
gg N&O
Quote : | "The names of the women are not being published as it is News & Observer policy to, in most cases, withhold the names of those thought to be victims of sex crimes.
" | 4/15/2007 1:26:07 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
^they published her name in the N&O 4/15/2007 1:35:15 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
^did they? 4/15/2007 2:01:17 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This cartoon is pretty stupid. The top 3 characters made directly offensive racial remarks.
Where as sharpton, as their little pamphlet says, rushed to judgement, like a lot of the news media, and plenty of other people in general.
A better cartoon would be showing other people that have already publicly apologized for judging the duke players, then show Sharpton and Jackson.
4/15/2007 2:02:28 PM |
eraser All American 6733 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A better cartoon would be showing other people that have already publicly apologized for judging the duke players, then show Sharpton and Jackson." |
Has anyone publicly apologized for judging the Duke players?4/15/2007 2:04:27 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
The Rev. Sharpton has a long and well documented history of making racial remarks, and I think he has a radio show, yep,
http://www.sharptontalk.net/
can you maybe see the relevance to the Imus scandal? 4/15/2007 2:34:25 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they published her name in the N&O" |
She's not thought to be a victim anymore.4/15/2007 4:29:46 PM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i know, that is why they published it. CNN pussed out...pissed me off 4/15/2007 10:07:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Rev. Sharpton has a long and well documented history of making racial remarks, and I think he has a radio show, yep,
http://www.sharptontalk.net/
can you maybe see the relevance to the Imus scandal?" |
First of all, that's not what the cartoon is trying to point out, because there's no direct connection between Imus and the Duke scandal.
Secondly, it's irrelevant that Sharpton merely has a radio show, just like Imus. There would also have to be some story about Sharpton using a racist slur on his radio show (like saying "pig-faced fags" about some predominantly white college sports team) for that to be relevant.
It's fine for you to hate Sharpton, and I don't personally really care if you hate Sharpton, but when you do it for BS reasons, it just makes you look racist.4/16/2007 12:22:20 AM |
Last Child Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
^you're name is perfect
anyone watch the 60 minutes segment tonight? i hope nifong gets buried in litigation and loses everything he has, it is rediculous the way this was handled. and of course on wral they interviewed some bishop in durham who has been vocal about the duke guys and today still says something happened and justice failed. 4/16/2007 12:37:45 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " you're[sic] name is perfect" |
Why do you feel that way?
I think it would fit you better.4/16/2007 2:01:42 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
60 minutes report on it, pretty good:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2685552n 4/16/2007 2:10:09 AM |
Sonia All American 14028 Posts user info edit post |
When something like this happens, can't the AG do something about it sooner? Did Roy Cooper not watch news last year or are his hands tied until someone like Nifong recuses himself? 4/16/2007 8:49:36 AM |
Graham1 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^you're name is perfect
anyone watch the 60 minutes segment tonight? i hope nifong gets buried in litigation and loses everything he has, it is rediculous the way this was handled. and of course on wral they interviewed some bishop in durham who has been vocal about the duke guys and today still says something happened and justice failed. " |
If you're going to get on someone's case for being a "moron" then please for the love of God, USE CORRECT GRAMMAR AND SPELLING.
Anyways, I think expecting Sharpton, Jackson, and the rest to apologize is wishful thinking and it has been all along.4/16/2007 10:54:36 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
wow, people should read this thread
http://www.thejustusleague.com/lawn/index.php?showtopic=33370 4/16/2007 10:58:22 AM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, that bitch doesn't even know how many were accused. 4/16/2007 11:25:48 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "innocent mowfuckas get shot 50 times by police and your worried about some duke lacrosse players running train on a fucking stripper?! who died and made you captain saveahoe?" |
hahahaah4/16/2007 11:34:37 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "captain saveahoe" |
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha4/16/2007 12:19:44 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for a black woman to accuse 4 white boys in the south, a region where blacks are still lynched, took a level of courage that is staggering. " |
ok when was the last lynching in NC
seriously
wtf4/17/2007 4:52:33 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
moron is fitting for the user who created it. sharpton and jackson are just as racist as anyone else. 4/17/2007 9:37:54 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "First of all, that's not what the cartoon is trying to point out, because there's no direct connection between Imus and the Duke scandal. " |
The point is that all of the pictured individuals have engaged in manifestly racist speech. The cartoon is funny because it points out the hypocrisy of Sharpton and Jackson who to my knowledge still have not bothered to apologize for their own previous racist statements about the Duke case and more.
Quote : | "Secondly, it's irrelevant that Sharpton merely has a radio show, just like Imus. There would also have to be some story about Sharpton using a racist slur on his radio show (like saying "pig-faced fags" about some predominantly white college sports team) for that to be relevant." |
I sure he has said racist things on his radio show, I can't find any quotes at the moment, but he is well known for his commentary about "white interlopers" or "diamond merchants" which should be understood in the context of the following
"The Crown Heights pogrom occurred after a car accident involving the motorcade for the Lubavitcher Rebbe killed a young boy Gavin Cato. A riot was sparked after a private Hasidic ambulance came to the scene and, on the orders of a police officer, removed the Hasidic driver from the scene. Gavin Cato and his cousin Angela were picked up soon after by a city ambulance. Caribbean-American and African-American residents of the neighborhood then rioted for four consecutive days fueled by rumors driven by Sharpton that the private ambulance had refused to treat Cato. Al Sharpton became the de-facto representative for the Cato family.During the funeral he referred to "diamond merchants" considered a code word for Hasidic Jews for shedding "the blood of innocent babies" leading marchers shouting "No Justice No Peace". Sharpton did not start the riots but his rhetoric poured gas on the fire. And while the Mayor of NY refused to do anything to help, A visiting rabbinical student from Australia by the name of Yankel Rosenbaum, 29 years old, was killed during the rioting by a mob shouting "Kill the Jew"." from http://www.israelated.com/node/12294
Quote : | "It's fine for you to hate Sharpton, and I don't personally really care if you hate Sharpton, but when you do it for BS reasons, it just makes you look racist." |
I don't hate Sharpton. I hate that people listen to him and give him any sort of forum.
Imus said some stupid stuff about people who were not in any kind of legal jeopardy and frankly in the bigger context of his show it was probably intended to be comedy ( I don't get Imus so I can't be sure)
Sharpton and Jackson added fuel to the fire of unfounded accusations. Its really much worse then some stupid comment by Imus because it could have played a large role in increasing the mob mentallity of the african american community in Durham and elsewhere. In other words Jesse and Al provided Nifong a political motivation for railroading the boys. This is not the first time that they have based their arguments on race. Or prove me wrong, show me where they've irrationally defended some white dude. Without trumped up racism Al and Jesse cease to exist as public figures.
[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 11:32 PM. Reason : [ =! <]4/17/2007 11:30:22 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
wow
http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/567527.html 4/26/2007 9:18:45 AM |
Graham1 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
This guy should have done some research before writing that article
White people do NOT always get away with rape, murder, and beatings of any person of ANY decent. Black people get away with ruining white people's lives too - the stripper in the Duke Lacrosse case would be an example.
If you don't like America, then leave. You're a "son of Africa" 20 times removed and you are likely nothing like those living in Africa today. Guess what? There are rapists in Africa too - and many, many of those rapes go unpunished because rapes are used as a political tool to control and scare. How would you like that political system as opposed to this one? 4/26/2007 10:02:04 AM |