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"Any lawyer guilty or innocent is going to DEMAND that their client not talk to anyone, let alone the media. That's basic legal strategy whether you are guilty or innocent."

A-FREAKING-MEN 100%. Why the hell don't more people realize that invoking your right to silence IS NOT INDICATIVE OF GUILT, it's the intelligent thing to do!

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:12 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2012 10:12:01 PM

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"Spike Lee is a true american shithead"

He knows how to do everything except make a good movie...and I guess now tweet. To be honest as soon as a hear tweet I lose 100% respect for the person doing the "tweeting". It's like beatboxing...okay you're doing something (retarded) but I can't figure out why.

3/27/2012 10:14:39 PM

It's the same thing regarding the drug test.

Some people think the police are up to something becasue the cops chose to test Trayvons body for drugs and not Zimmerman.

NEWSFLASH!!!!

A toxicology report is run on all dead bodies during an autopsy.

3/27/2012 10:16:13 PM

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""Any lawyer guilty or innocent is going to DEMAND that their client not talk to anyone, let alone the media. That's basic legal strategy whether you are guilty or innocent.""

Don't ruin the illusion that Zimmerman is a racist murderer who finally lived out his dream of killing a black kid. I mean, come on, that's what Obama's son would look like, gold teeth and everything.

3/27/2012 10:16:59 PM

^^^Inside Man was one hell of a good movie I thought.

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason : ,]

3/27/2012 10:18:18 PM

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2012/03/niggering-of-trayvon-martin-we-see-this.html

Quote :

" The Niggering of Trayvon Martin: We see this again and again. A black male who captures the imagination of the nation must be degraded by the right. He must be turned into something else, some Other. President Obama can't simply be an educated black man from a lower middle-class background with whom they disagree ideologically. No, he's got to be an enemy, a foreigner, a nigger. It's hard to denigrate someone who might be like you, conservatives. But it's easy to attack a nigger because he's just a nigger. Or a coon. When 17 year-old Trayvon Martin was shot dead, the process of transforming him from an average middle-class high school student to a dangerous thug who was asking for it began almost immediately (putting aside the profiling that George Zimmerman did the second he started stalking Martin around their gated community in his SUV). News reports say his body was tagged "John Doe" and held in the morgue for three days. Sorry, race apologists, but if that had been a white child, especially the white child of, say, a Tea Party member, there'd have been a fucking riot. Or, more likely, it just wouldn't have happened. Now, the niggering of Martin is in full swing as fake photos, school records, Facebook postings, and even his tweets are put under the microscope. A police report that portrays Martin as the initiator of violence has been leaked. And the news media is going along with the victim-blaming that is being spun out by authorities and the right, allowing that it's in any way relevant that Martin was suspended from school once, for instance. The niggering of Trayvon Martin works as every niggering does. It gives conservatives cover for their belief in the innate goodness of guns and the innate badness of anyone non-white who just dresses vaguely gangsta. It gives racists, open and closeted, a reason not to care. It allows them to see him as deserving of some punishment in general: if Zimmerman hadn't killed him, this narrative goes, well, fuck, chances are Martin would have been a criminal and better to get it over with now than pay for his incarceration. The Rude Pundit read over Martin's "No_Limit_Nigga" Twitter postings, although he felt skeevy about it (and he's sure that Tucker Carlson didn't feel any skeevier than usual). It's pretty much a journey through retweets and responses and sexual shit that all fall into the category of "stupid shit teenagers say." Then, on page 25, is this: "Retweet if your biggest fear is losing your Mom." Martin did so. Twice. Yeah, reality is way more complicated. Or simple, really. If you take "nigger" out of the equation, you're left with "child.""

3/27/2012 10:23:50 PM

n00bed.

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:38 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 10:29:54 PM

Yes.

It will be interesting to see how that weaves in with other accounts (including Zimmerman's)

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM. Reason : f]

3/27/2012 10:35:13 PM

^^ probably at least 2 or 3 times...

We're on to the unofficial leaks at this point.

I can't imagine manslaughter, at least, isn't in Martin's future. It bizarre it's taking this long to make a decision. politicians.

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:39 PM. Reason : ]

3/27/2012 10:37:33 PM

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"The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News. Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-charge-george-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674#.T3J6WTEgeSq

3/27/2012 10:41:40 PM

3/27/2012 10:42:20 PM

This smacks of the OWS evolution: it starts out with well-intentioned people who have concerns, it gradually gets retarded as people jump on the bandwagon to further their own agendas. Seems many have taken the opportunity to play the hell out of the race card with this and to me that's fucked up. Their taking the tragedy (however you want to work it) and using it to their full advantage. WTF is niggering, is Zimmerman being crackered. (OP would not only suggest but prove this)

and BTW fuck Obama for encouraging all the bullshit with his my son would look like TM.

3/27/2012 10:43:48 PM

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""The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News. Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.""

Sounds like a loose cannon, don't you need to investigate then bring charges.

3/27/2012 10:46:44 PM

the faux-outrage over that Obama comment is fucking pathetic

this dude puts it better than I ever could:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/the-worst-racial-demagogues-of-the-decade/255070/

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" But as I said, it isn't just about talk radio. It's also about politicians like Newt Gingrich. In his latest foray into racial commentary, he took President Obama to task for his comments about the Trayvon Martin case. Here's what Obama said: "I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure we're not impairing any investigation... But obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. I think that every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together, federal, state and local to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened... My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves." To me, that's as pitch perfect as an off-the-cuff statement gets. Here's how Gingrich reacted to it: "What the president said in a sense is disgraceful. It is not a question of who that young man looked like. Any young American of any ethnic background should be safe. Period. And trying to turn it into a racial issue is fundamentally wrong. I find it appalling." See what he did there? In the course of criticizing Obama for engaging in supposed racial demagoguery, Gingrich implies that the president cares less when white kids are shot by strangers, despite the fact that reading his statement that way is the sort of mistake only an overly literal idiot (or poorly programmed computer) would actually make. Gingrich is no idiot. And he is far too undisciplined to be a computer. Given his insistence that invoking identity is needlessly divisive, he's certainly a hypocrite. This is a guy who says the best way to understand Obama is through the prism of his alleged Kenyan anti-colonialism; a guy who says that American Muslims shouldn't be able to build mosques in Manhattan until Saudi Arabia permits churches on its territory; someone who thinks the widespread conservative belief that Obama is a Muslim is both something Obama ought to be embarrassed about (apparently he thinks there's something wrong with being a Muslim) and that the rumor is Obama's fault! It would be one thing if Limbaugh and Gingrich were jeered by fellow conservatives for their long-running forays into racial demagoguery. Instead the prevailing attitude is something like "turnabout is fair play." Ask a conservative why they don't call these guys out. The answer is often, "but Al Sharpton is worse." Even if that were true, the fact that somewhere a liberal is behaving badly hardly justifies the behavior of their conservative analogues; but the uncomfortable truth conservatives refuse to face is that Sharpton's low point happened two decades ago. Look at the past decade. Limbaugh and Gingrich are the bigger racial demagogues today. Writing at Forbes, Josh Barro explains what's wrong with the insistence of some conservatives that Obama's comments in the Martin case were objectionable: "The claim running through these objections is that black Americans cannot have any special concerns in need of airing. Many of the issues raised in the Trayvon Martin case--was Trayvon Martin singled out for suspicion because he was black? Did race influence the Sanford police's handling of the case? What is the burden of profiling on young black men?--are therefore off limits." Barro goes on to say something the right must confront if its ever going to change its reputation on racial matters: "Conservatives, almost universally, feel like they get a bad rap on race. They catch heat when they point out improvements over the last several decades in race relations and in the material well being of minorities in America, even though those phenomena are real. They catch heat when they contend that government programs intended to help the poor have led to problems with dependency in minority communities, even though those critiques are sometimes correct. They catch heat when they criticize Affirmative Action, even when in some cases (as at the University of California) Affirmative Action was clearly dis-serving minority communities. Why do conservatives catch such heat? It's probably because there is still so much racism on the Right to go alongside valid arguments on issues relating to race and ethnicity. Conservatives so often get unfairly pounded on race because, so often, conservatives get fairly pounded on race. And this is the Right's own fault, because conservatives are not serious about draining the swamp... There has been a clear strategic calculation here among Republican elites. Better to leverage or at least accept the racism of much of the Republican base than try to clean it up." His post, complete with examples and lots more analysis, is worth reading in full. And the conclusion is spot on: "My challenge to conservatives who feel they get a bum rap on race is this. Stand up for yourself and your colleagues when you feel that a criticism is unfair. At the same time, criticize other conservatives who say racist things, cynically tolerate racism in the Republican base, or deny the mere existence of racial issues in America today. The conservative movement desperately needs self-policing on racial issues, if it ever hopes to have credibility on them." Quite right. It is in fact the case that conservatives are sometimes attacked unfairly on racial matters, and that some conservatives are attacked because they're obvious racial demagogues. The best "strategy" for grappling with this situation is to just call 'em how you see 'em. "

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:54 PM. Reason : quotes and quotes and quotes]

3/27/2012 10:50:18 PM

^^ cops could recommend charges at any time. what is your point?


[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:53 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 10:53:07 PM

Quote :

"the faux-outrage over that Obama comment is fucking pathetic this dude puts it better than I ever could:"

3/27/2012 10:54:19 PM

^Sounds like you don't read a lot of things...just like to spew hatred...

Obama didn't say anything wrong or biased.

3/27/2012 10:59:42 PM

Quote :

""I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure we're not impairing any investigation... But obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. I think that every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together, federal, state and local to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened... My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves.: "

No, wait I did read that and it's kind of like subtext; he said it without saying it outright. Consider this: of all the shit to get involved in why did he get into this. Our economy is fucked, gas prices are going nowhere but up, etc. and he's getting into this?!? He's pandering to blacks and the white guilt sectors. If you think it was okay you've got a lot to learn.

3/27/2012 11:00:20 PM

no kidding^

3/27/2012 11:02:56 PM

Note: president of US shouldn't comment on the number one news story in US

And under NO circumstances should the president recognize his background. NEVER.

3/27/2012 11:04:05 PM

Oh my god, why did he make a 30 second press statement when he could have been [INSERT ACTIVITY HERE!]

3/27/2012 11:05:56 PM

he hasnt commented on anything else

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM. Reason : except for laughing about the price of gasoline]

3/27/2012 11:08:23 PM

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"...just like to spew hatred..."

What? I've said time and again I hope justice gets served. If Zimmerman is some fucktard John Wayne wannabe I hope he gets life. I don't think that Obama should have said anything about it. With that said if it comes down to Obama and Romney, I'll vote Obama because Romney will fuck us like it's his job...but that's a whole other thread.

3/27/2012 11:08:33 PM

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"Oh my god, why did he make a 30 second press statement when he could have been [INSERT ACTIVITY HERE!]"

Never give up son.

3/27/2012 11:11:05 PM

36 Pages of Race Pimping

3/27/2012 11:11:50 PM

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"Consider this: of all the shit to get involved in why did he get into this. Our economy is fucked, gas prices are going nowhere but up, etc. and he's getting into this?!?"

He was asked a question, and he answered it. What would you have him do?


"Sorry, I'm not allowed to answer that question until gas is cheap"

3/27/2012 11:16:26 PM

If Obama acknowledges that he might be dark skinned it means he hates white people.

3/27/2012 11:18:15 PM

How dare these republican candidates talk about the #1 news story in the country:

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" Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich have joined President Obama in weighing in on the shooting of Trayvon Martin. After a rally in Shreveport, Louisiana on Friday, Romney called the murder a "terrible tragedy" that was "unnecessary, uncalled for, and inexplicable at this point." He added that it was "entirely appropriate" for the district attorney to be looking into the matter, and to have called a grand jury investigation in the pursuit of justice. "Our hearts go out to his family, his loved ones, his friends," Romney said. "This shouldn't have happened." He declined to comment on whether or not he felt the Justice Department should get involved. Earlier in the day, the Romney campaign released a statement on the matter: "What happened to Trayvon Martin is a tragedy," Romney said in the statement. "There needs to be a thorough investigation that reassures the public that justice is carried out with impartiality and integrity." Romney ignored a question on the Martin story three days ago. "Stand Your Ground is not doing what this man did," Santorum said. "So, there's a difference between Stand Your Ground and doing what he did and it's a horrible case. It's chilling to hear what happened and of course the fact that law enforcement didn't immediately go after and prosecute this case is another chilling example of you know obviously horrible decisions made by people in this process.""

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57403438-503544/gingrich-romney-santorum-discuss-trayvon-martin/

[Edited on March 27, 2012 at 11:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/27/2012 11:20:20 PM

zimmerman couldn't have been racist:

George Michael Zimmerman, born Oct. 5, 1983, registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in August 2002, according to state voter registration documents.

3/28/2012 6:53:08 AM

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"Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News. But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News. Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime. Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events. Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense. One complicating factor in the investigation was that the first detective to interview Zimmerman about the shooting was a narcotics officer rather than a homicide detective. "

rest of article: http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-manslaughter-charge-151838720--abc-news-topstories.html

3/28/2012 7:49:42 AM

Move this fucking thread to soap box. Holy shit!

3/28/2012 7:57:01 AM

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"And under NO circumstances should the president recognize his background. NEVER."

You know about the President's background? Please share!!!

3/28/2012 7:58:21 AM

Spike Lee can go fuck himself. If anything happens to the old people I hope he gets railed.

What a shitbag.

3/28/2012 8:26:55 AM

Just checking in on my atm-favorite-thread in chit chat.

I don't blame Zimmerman (and attorneys) for not making a statement. He hasn't been charged with anything. Why the fuck would he make a statement?

I want to believe that Trayvon's family is trademarking the slogans because they have his name in them and they want to preserve his reputation. But I can't help but wonder how much they're going to $PROFIT$ from this.

3/28/2012 8:48:51 AM

^Or perhaps how much they will keep others from profiting from this? Just look at that ridiculous flyer posted a few pages back.

3/28/2012 9:12:16 AM

yeah if it was me i would def trademark something like this, just because i dont want it associated with some bullshit

3/28/2012 9:19:16 AM

i think its suspicious they continue to use the picture of the black kid when he was like 11 and on a football team

3/28/2012 9:38:57 AM

Apparently he has a "gold plated grill" according to that article up there.

3/28/2012 9:41:48 AM

3/28/2012 10:42:08 AM

3/28/2012 10:45:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHti3NXpif8&feature=player_embedded

3/28/2012 12:33:42 PM

^^Hahaha, that's the damn truth

3/28/2012 12:40:10 PM

^^ lol. that racist guy with the hammer had him removed

3/28/2012 12:43:18 PM

spike lee really needs to do the right thing here

3/28/2012 12:44:10 PM

Quote :

"He knows how to do everything except make a good movie"

Woh there, I think Spike Lee is a jackass too, but do you really not like Do the Right Thing or He Got Game?

3/28/2012 12:50:27 PM

3/28/2012 12:54:56 PM

NRA introduces concealed carry hoodie

http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/ProductDetail.aspx?c=11&p=CO+635&ct=e

rock bottom? rock bottom.

3/28/2012 1:00:46 PM

such clothing has been sold for a long time. nice try though.

3/28/2012 1:02:30 PM

really? because I'm pretty sure that if you click on the fucking link you'll see a BIG GODDAMNED FUCKING "NEW" logo on the page

get fucking bent you decrepit piece of shit

3/28/2012 1:06:12 PM

ok. a hoodie for CC is not a new concept is what I'm saying. I guess you don't like the timing of this, because the actual piece of clothing is an old idea. Maybe it's new item from the NRA. But wouldn't a hoodie show support for trayvon? I mean, that's what everyone's wearing now.

3/28/2012 1:08:07 PM