Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
That kinda makes it that more powerful. From what I can tell, a well-respected marine general, Trump's Secretary of Defense for two years, a war-hawk, who went along with Trump's policies, until he finally didn't and resigned in protest. Then didn't discuss politics, like most officers, until he couldn't anymore and then unleashed scathing criticism. 6/4/2020 3:23:59 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Yea don't get me wrong it's good his allies are turning on him but I think utown's worry is any "mattis is a hero" narrative from the center. The image rehabilitation that people seem to get when they stop doing Trump's dirty work, without any actual attempt to make up for the damage they caused. Hence the GWB comparison. 6/4/2020 3:42:10 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yea don't get me wrong it's good his allies are turning on him but I think utown's worry is any "mattis is a hero" narrative from the center." |
Well if everyone he's fired over the last 3.5 years comes forward with similar statements i think we will all be happy.
Well maybe not eleusis, but everybody else.]6/4/2020 3:45:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Yes thanks for agreeing with me 6/4/2020 4:02:44 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
you betcha!
my goal was to issue a wish list of further statements i'd love to see.
and utter the name eleusis again to hope we can beetlejuice his appearance
[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 4:20 PM. Reason : eleusis!]] 6/4/2020 4:04:30 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
In response to James Mattis:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-jim-mattis/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/lisa-murkowski-mattis-trump-reaction/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/republican-senators-reaction-mattis/index.html
So maybe just 1 or 2 reasonable voices.
As at least one of the links says, I am sure a lot more of them disagree with Trump, but won't say it for obvious reasons. 6/4/2020 5:15:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Senators are the real test. Mattis has little to no ability to impact the Trump, other than positive or negative campaigning. Senators have the ability to shut down actual legislation and/or act to limit his power. If they don't, then their words are truly meaningless.
[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 5:23 PM. Reason : E] 6/4/2020 5:22:52 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Another General unheard from
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/03/trump-military-george-floyd-protests/
^ Even as it is it must be impacting the voters. Good enough for me.
[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ] 6/4/2020 10:44:20 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Yea hopefully but it's be nice if someone wokred to stop him packing the benches over the next 6 months. That damage will last a lifetime. 6/4/2020 10:57:29 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
And now Romney: The Hill: Romney: Mattis statement 'stunning and powerful' | TheHill. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/501199-romney-mattis-statement-stunning-and-powerful
^ Tru tru but larger issue for me is not having 4 more years. Benches have already been packed a lot too right? 6/4/2020 11:01:30 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
And another one
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/04/870004024/former-joint-chiefs-chairman-condemns-trumps-threat-to-use-military-at-protests
[Edited on June 4, 2020 at 11:24 PM. Reason : These arent fired administration people but what I hoped for is happening ] 6/4/2020 11:24:14 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Oh he mad
POLITICO: Trump vows to campaign against Murkowski after she backs Mattis. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/trump-murkowski-campaign-mattis-302308 6/4/2020 11:36:45 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
And another one
POLITICO: Ex-Defense Secretary William Perry joins Mattis in condemning Trump. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/04/mattis-clinton-perry-defense-301756 6/5/2020 10:52:01 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " im asking because i genuinely dont know. what were liberals opinions of mattis when he was secdef?" |
Mattis has been pretty apolitical. Even as SECDEF, outside of DoD policy issues (and sometimes with respect to them) he mostly just advocated for sensibility, preserving process, and living up to American ideals. So, at least among mainstream liberals, not a few of the wingnuts on TWW, he was respected. In the context of the Trump administration, I think everyone was mostly just thrilled to have a good man who was competent, stable, credentialed, with academic gravitas, etc. Basically: we don’t know if we’d want him as POTUS, but we’re happy to have him as SECDEF. We need an adult Cabinet member in the room.6/7/2020 2:01:20 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't be want to invade Iran tho, among other hawkish views? 6/7/2020 8:33:09 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Not to my knowledge. He’s definitely pretty negative on Iran—rightfully in my opinion. I remember, though, that he was against breaking the Iranian nuclear deal. He basically said that “this isn’t a very good deal, but pulling out of it will be even worse.” Which was true. 6/7/2020 12:40:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
this is so hilarious and so terrible at the same time
6/25/2020 2:30:16 AM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
normally compilation videos like that annoy me. but I could have watched that at twice or trice the length.
it's amazing. 6/25/2020 9:12:16 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
White power 6/28/2020 2:52:17 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
we have to vote him out in november so he can never tweet again. then the internet will be clear and free of racist filth once again! 6/28/2020 3:18:10 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
^ lol, I hope a cricket crawls in your butthole, and chirps every time you fart. What's your motivation bro? What's in your heart? 6/28/2020 3:42:21 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
It’s just really hard for me to decide....should I vote for the one that has condoned, pandered to and supported white supremacists or should I vote for the guy that stutters and misspeaks sometimes?
[Edited on June 28, 2020 at 7:01 PM. Reason : A] 6/28/2020 7:01:05 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Trump has condoned, pandered to and supported white supremacists too. 6/28/2020 7:24:42 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Earl, would you like some links to a mental health hotline? 6/28/2020 10:10:21 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
nope. but if I ever become content with the status quo, please call them for me. 6/28/2020 11:42:18 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
^^^that made me lol 6/28/2020 11:47:50 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure the best place to put this but I'll put it here since the guy getting knocked out is probably a trump supporter
6/29/2020 5:47:15 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder how major this silent majority is 6/29/2020 6:59:01 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "normally compilation videos like that annoy me. but I could have watched that at twice or trice the length.
it's amazing. " |
Jesus Christ, that hurts my head to watch.6/29/2020 11:55:14 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
He looks... weird
7/28/2020 1:02:04 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8779 Posts user info edit post |
That's actually 2x earths gravity 7/28/2020 1:33:09 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Probably because he's not wearing Wranglers 7/28/2020 1:59:59 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
What exactly is going on in that pic? Is Trump lactating? 7/28/2020 2:09:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Trumps POTUS polo looks like a knock off White House/POTUS shirt. Like something you’d buy at a gift shop 7/28/2020 2:19:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
love to see Vic Berger photoshops in the wild 7/28/2020 2:22:06 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I was wondering, thanks. 7/28/2020 2:23:12 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
Is that John Daly or Trump's body? 7/28/2020 6:32:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
that neck tho 7/28/2020 7:31:18 PM |
BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114363 Posts user info edit post |
guys please don't 7/28/2020 11:12:55 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
I voted absentee. Tonight could be a nightmare. But at least TWW is back! 11/3/2020 8:26:30 PM |
bellrabbit All American 2605 Posts user info edit post |
You bubble in the person you DONT want to win, right? 11/3/2020 8:43:05 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
So great to have this back tonight. I'd much rather grouse with ya'll about the election than the super polarized people on my Facebook feed or reddit pages. 11/3/2020 8:55:09 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
^srsly. I needed this 11/3/2020 9:27:04 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Cooper has a semi-comfortable lead over Forest so far. 11/3/2020 9:38:32 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
It looks like a lot of people considered voting for Trump. 11/3/2020 9:39:16 PM |
bellrabbit All American 2605 Posts user info edit post |
I knew those polls didn't mean dick. It's gonna be close again. All those people, "BUT BUT HE HAS A BIGGER LEAD THAN HILLARY." Pssshhhh. 11/3/2020 9:40:12 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Never underestimate the stubbornness and gullibility of the American Redneck. 11/3/2020 9:47:45 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
^Yep. Most of my family was super excited to go see Pence at RWI last weekend and were on Forest's nuts more than Jenny. Pretty disgusting. 11/3/2020 10:08:24 PM |
bellrabbit All American 2605 Posts user info edit post |
Uhh...this was kinda funny in 2016, but now its just uncomfortable. 11/3/2020 10:28:34 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
TWW is back!!!!!! 11/3/2020 10:35:41 PM |